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WildBillKelsoe

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That was a 'Righteous Kill'

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Der_Fred

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Saw this a few years ago. Probably was 'locked up' as it shows allies shooting pilots in chutes.

 

We were good friends of a vet (RIP last year at 95) from the pacific, who made a comment out of the blue 'you shot them anywhere you found them'. This was the sentiment of that time, that was still with him.

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Saw this a few years ago. Probably was 'locked up' as it shows allies shooting pilots in chutes.

 

We were good friends of a vet (RIP last year at 95) from the pacific, who made a comment out of the blue 'you shot them anywhere you found them'. This was the sentiment of that time, that was still with him.

 

I'm not sure you can say it was the sentiment of the time, but I know of accounts reported by all sides of pilots getting shot at who were hanging from their risers. It sends a chill down my spine whenever I hear about it. Men were ordered to do a lot of terrible things and I'm sure some of them had trouble, in the heat of the moment, distinguishing orders to strafe troops in a boat from shooting a pilot drifting to the earth. I can't even stomach the idea of doing it in the sim. :(

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Nealius

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I did a little bit of research on the shooting of downed pilots and it appears that the two largest perpetrators were the Germans, and Americans who were specifically in the Pacific. The only accounts I could find of Americans in the European theater shooting downed pilots were in acts of revenge after seeing a German doing it.

 

I have always seen the "sentiment of the time" as being overtly racist towards Japan (and Asians in general). That's not to say we didn't have the same sentiments against the "Krauts," but it just seems so extreme on the Pacific side.

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ericoh

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I honestly thought there was somekind of unwritten "code of honor". They shot pilots in their chutes? Call me naive, but i wanted to belive, its shocking to see tbh....

Hogger73

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Fascinating footage. It was a little unsporting to shoot the guy under his chute. I'd agree that it was probably the reason it got classified.

Invader ZIM

Invader ZIM

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Regarding shooting pilots in their chutes, it did happen, and there's accounts of it on all sides during the war, Japan did it as well.

 

The video of the guy in the chute, at 1:34 you can actually see he's pulled his legs up and hunched his head over as he is trying to be a smaller target, as the plane flies toward him you can see he's still alive, not limp, and there's no ammo being fired at him, despite the fact that he's dead in the gunsights for a considerable amount of time. Pilots would film the parachutes on their guncam not always because they were firing on the pilot, but to prove when they got back to base that they had made a verified kill.

 

 

At 1:16, you can actually see the pilot bail out, and subsequently, his parachute harness slips over his head, allowing him to freefall to the ground. :(

 

2:29 and 2:34 large electrical arcing from the strafing, power lines hit. 2:42 power substation being strafed, another substation at 2:52

 

Regarding the trains, at 3:01 and again at 3:07 you'll notice of all the cars in that railyard, the pilots are focusing their runs on the Engines, you may not destroy the supplies, but you'll make it very difficult to distribute the supplies without the engines to haul them.

3:14, boiler going up on engine. 3:22 at least two aircraft strafing the engine.

 

3:43 Possible V2 launch tower???

 

4:31, multiple people near parked military aircraft.

 

And about the ships, they would strafe anything that could be used to supply the enemy, even if it was just food on a commercial ship. At 5:27 I see incoming AA tracers toward the strafing aircraft, so it's not as one sided as it may seem.

 

That's simply the result of total unrestricted war. Thank you for the video, these are not random indiscriminate strafing runs, if you know what your looking at, the targets are tactical in nature, Power, Supplies, Large warehouses and factories with smoke coming from the stacks (Indicating they are in use.) Which these fighters helped to disrupt the enemys ability to wage war.

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Nealius

Nealius

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The only "indiscriminate" strafing run I would say is the one with the two guys on the beach. Unless they had intelligence that supplies were being carried on fisherman's dinghies there wasn't much of a reason to attack that.

Invader ZIM

Invader ZIM

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I can't find the full story on that one myself. I did have some guncam footage that looked similar, it was a small number of German's on the beach, but it turns out they were setting up mines and tank traps for the impending invasion by Allied forces.

 

Sometimes we just don't have the full story on why your seeing what your seeing when it comes to guncam footage. It could be something outside the field of view of the guncam, etc.

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Phantom88

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Not sure why they feel they need to have to Ruin Beautiful vintage film with Asinine non-period music.

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Griffin

Griffin

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The originals are silent so you might just as well turn the sound off or play something yourself you find suitable.

 

 

Check at 0:36 in the video below. Apparently a friendly aircraft gets destroyed by a massive explosion on the ground.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And many great ones on this channel below:

 

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marcos

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Ju-87G strafing with BK37 37mm autocannon. So when is DCS Ju-87G?

 

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Invader ZIM

Invader ZIM

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Here's a rare one, B-25 strafers doing attack runs on Japanese airfields, you can see the parafrag bombs, as well as the long fuse settings on the other bombs (Yes, in the video those bombs are striking the ground and bouncing back up at near the height of the aircraft and detonating on the second impact.)

 

http://www.military.com/video/operations-and-strategy/second-world-war/ww2-b-25-gunships-strafing/1650927482001/

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