Flyable Su-30 with Su-27 6DOF cockpit

[Viperrm64]

It's Ok Evilducky it was my damn Google Toolbar interfering with Filedropper I've got your SU-30 now thanks.

Rob.

[Linx]

I dont think so without FC3, you could try to add CustomHumanData[PlaneType.Su_30 ] = CWSType.iCWS_Su_27

 

instead of 25t, but if that works it would replace the functions of the elint with radar again.

 

 

There must be a way to combine those 2, maybe functions addind elint pod on/off

 

 

Tried that but it just spawns me without cockpit.

Hopefully there is way to make these functions work simultaneously. (even for non FC3 owners :P )

[SkateZilla]

Considering the Avionics and Systems for FC3 Aircraft are in the FC3 Binaries and protected by DRM, it's not gonna happen.

Edited May 13, 2013 by SkateZilla

[ericoh]

Considering the Avionics and Systems for FC3 Aircraft are in the FC3 Binaries and protected by DRM, it's not gonna happen.

 

I was thinking the same. However isnt there a way to call the function from the su-25t? And adding it as another function to the SU-27/30 via some kind of bypass? Im wildly theoryzing here :joystick: I assume there is a way.

 

P.S.: I just completed your 100th like on the FB page, liking your F-100D :D lol

Edited May 13, 2013 by ericoh

[RagnarDa]

I think the Target designator Up/down might be reversed...

[SkateZilla]

I'm sorry, it's possible...

But I'm not a supporter of modding ED's Assets and splicing together peices to make a free flyable of a normally purchased plane.

 

Which is why I posted what I did above, I edited out my abrasive 2nd line from the post after I posted it.

 

However; Making some planes flyable that arent flyable at all (ie F-16, F-14, etc etc) are good from a movie making standpoint :),

 

cuz Sometimes You just wanna keep up foreign relations, and I Seriously doubt the AI will fly close proximity to an enemy aircraft inverted.

[Evilducky]

Linx with that you did, do you have the full air to air mode? When I did the custom human change the cockpit wasnt working right.

 

Edit: I just watched your video again and you are now at the step I was stuck at. That plane now is only as good as the Su-25T. You lost your BVR and other air to air modes just for that. The way the plane is setup as I posted, you can not do the anti-radiation mission. If you want that, what you did will work but your air to air is now only good for heaters and close range fighting.

Edited May 13, 2013 by Evilducky

[Viperrm64]

Sorry Evilducky,got your excellent mod working but theres a problem with the pylons the weapons don't match up with the hardpoints any ideas?Thanks Rob.

[ericoh]

I'm sorry, it's possible...

But I'm not a supporter of modding ED's Assets and splicing together peices to make a free flyable of a normally purchased plane.

 

Which is why I posted what I did above, I edited out my abrasive 2nd line from the post after I posted it.

 

However; Making some planes flyable that arent flyable at all (ie F-16, F-14, etc etc) are good from a movie making standpoint :),

 

cuz Sometimes You just wanna keep up foreign relations, and I Seriously doubt the AI will fly close proximity to an enemy aircraft inverted.

 

 

Right, i didnt even think about that... However in my case i posses all of ED's modules so i guess it is "ok" for myself. Ima keep trying hopefully i find a way :helpsmilie:

[Linx]

Linx with that you did, do you have the full air to air mode? When I did the custom human change the cockpit wasnt working right.

 

Edit: I just watched your video again and you are now at the step I was stuck at. That plane now is only as good as the Su-25T. You lost your BVR and other air to air modes just for that. The way the plane is setup as I posted, you can not do the anti-radiation mission. If you want that, what you did will work but your air to air is now only good for heaters and close range fighting.

 

Yes. We're stuck in the same place.

But I can't go on since I don't own FC3.

 

I think we'll have to wait for a DCS F-18 to have a true multirole plane.

[Evilducky]

Sorry Evilducky,got your excellent mod working but theres a problem with the pylons the weapons don't match up with the hardpoints any ideas?Thanks Rob.

 

That's on Combatace's side. Hes the one that did the Su-30. I just made it working with the new cockpit.

[Viperrm64]

No problem i'll just make my own weapon files it's no major thing thanks anyway.

Rob.

[zaelu]

I have a strange problem with this mod.

 

My freetrack is not working... but mouse is taking over and works in cockpit. Any other plane is fine. I checked the files all are OK.

 

Anyone has any idea?

 

Also. I do own FC3 and I can say that the missiles are quite aligned with the pilons. But I cannot place the ELINT pod although I added the CLSIDs mentioned above. ANd... there's a file: comm.lua that apparently controls what type of plane is and what I key does... Radar or Elint. But I didn't tested yet.

[Evilducky]

Zaelu go into the input folder in your saved game folder, under your user folder, in the su27 and see if there is a facetrack folder. If there is, just copy that over to the su30 that should be in there now.

[zaelu]

I have no tracker folder (TIR, Freetrack or Facetracknoir) there. But the other planes work fine. Also... I have the input folder from Su27 to Su30.

[Evilducky]

Check in the mods/aircrafts/Flamming Cliffs/input/su27 folder, from the main DCS World folder. See if there is a headtracker folder in that one.

[zaelu]

Yes, there is also a trackir one. It contains the same files as the planes from FC3 with the same content. I'm at work now but if I can't solve it when I return I will post a list with the files that I have.

 

Thanks for the help!

Edited May 14, 2013 by zaelu

[Evilducky]

Just take that headtracker folder from the 27 folder and then go to mods/aircrafts/su-30/inputs/su-30 and past it there. Next go to the option and key commands in game, shouldnt have to do anything, and quit out of the option and go see if that fixes it for ya :)

[ericoh]

Uhm yes it is, follow Evilducky's instructions.

[zaelu]

I tried copying the files but is not working. The files are identical as I checked them with notepad++ and compare them with Windows Commander

 

I this moment I am without any ideas.

 

Bazar files should not interfere but I checked them and the model looks OK

Graphics.lua has one line modified from original that points to new textures

Server.lua and defaultsnapview.lua don't contain info about tracker but I checked them and they are OK and contain info about placement of cockpit and viewpoit of Su30 pilot

Su30.lua from scripts is copied OK

Files in MODS are all OK

 

Files in user folder DCS config input I copied them from Su27... I deleted them and let the game recreate them...

 

nothing.

 

:(

[Evilducky]

so this flyable su-30 mod is with the vanilla version, not the Combatace's 3d model?

 

if yes, can you make it with the Combatace's model, plz :thumbup:

 

Just download combats model if you haven't already, open up the folders till you get to the 4 main ones, take just the Bazar folder and throw that right into your dcs world folder, then the rest will be from my mod.

 

Let me know if you still need help and ill do my best. :)

[Evilducky]

I tried copying the files but is not working. The files are identical as I checked them with notepad++ and compare them with Windows Commander

 

I this moment I am without any ideas.

 

Bazar files should not interfere but I checked them and the model looks OK

Graphics.lua has one line modified from original that points to new textures

Server.lua and defaultsnapview.lua don't contain info about tracker but I checked them and they are OK and contain info about placement of cockpit and viewpoit of Su30 pilot

Su30.lua from scripts is copied OK

Files in MODS are all OK

 

Files in user folder DCS config input I copied them from Su27... I deleted them and let the game recreate them...

 

nothing.

 

:(

 

Ill try and look into that tonight for ya if I get a chance. I have a busy week, but ill try my best and get back to ya on that.

[zaelu]

I really don't know what causes it yet. But it must be something on my part since everyone else is OK. I'll try more.

 

Thanks for help!

[Evilducky]

Ahh, that explains why radar works for you.

Try going to CustomHuman and add this line: CustomHumanData[PlaneType.Su_30 ] = CWSType.iCWS_Su_25t

Should enable the use of ELINT.

 

So is there any way to make radar work on DCS World?

 

If you don't touch the customhumandata.lua file, the radar and stuff will work again but you'll lose the ability to do the anti-radar stuff. That I believe is hard coded into the Su-25T and cant be implimented on any other aircraft without pretty much making it the 25T through that customhumandata.lua file.

 

Sadly I believe its one or the other, you cant have both :(

[zaelu]

the optic sensor also works... but no target size controls or proper lasing I think... many things works but not my freetrack... grrr... :D .