hassata Posted May 21, 2013 Posted May 21, 2013 (edited) I invited a friend over to show-off my skills. To my surprise, he was able to consistently repeat running landings at high speeds on all kinds of surfaces-- and there I was wrestling the beast into a hover or trying my best to. Are running landings too easy in the sim? Edited May 21, 2013 by hassata [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Devrim Posted May 21, 2013 Posted May 21, 2013 Yes, very easy to me. But I have no idea if it is right or wrong attitude... Intel i7-14700@5.6GHz | MSI RTX4080 SuperSuprimX | Corsair V. 64GB@6400MHz. | Samsung 1TB 990 PRO SSD (Win10Homex64) Samsung G5 32" + Samsung 18" + 2x8"TFT Displays | TM Warthog Stick w/AVA Base | VPC MongoosT-50CM3 Throttle | TM MFD Cougars | Logitech G13, G230, G510, PZ55 & Farming Sim Panel | TIR5 & M.Quest3 VR >>MY MODS<< | Discord: Devrim#1068
Sundowner.pl Posted May 21, 2013 Posted May 21, 2013 Landing either tail low, or skids level, with moderate to low descend speed, and roughly aligned with your course, then you should be fine up to and sometimes above 60kts. What will get you in run-on landing is ground with uneven friction - many Robbies were lost to this. With DCS: Huey run-on landings on tarmac are fine, on the grass... well, only did few in combat, so can't really tell if those are too forgiving or not. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] "If a place needs helicopters, it's probably not worth visiting." - Nick Lappos
cichlidfan Posted May 21, 2013 Posted May 21, 2013 With DCS: Huey run-on landings on tarmac are fine. Good. I don't explode when I land that way. :) ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup:
Sundowner.pl Posted May 21, 2013 Posted May 21, 2013 Hahaha, I have so much laughs out of the damage modeling at crash landings with this thing. It is so rare occurrence in real life, for the helicopter to turn into a fireball at hard touchdown. Here's a video of a high speed run on landing... of course its a NOTAR bird, so something must go wrong here: Now play this and guess at which point such landing in DCS helicopter would erupt in a fireball: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] "If a place needs helicopters, it's probably not worth visiting." - Nick Lappos
cichlidfan Posted May 21, 2013 Posted May 21, 2013 Well, I have to admit that when I dropped about half a meter from a fairly stable hover, the ensuing explosion seemed a bit much. ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup:
Sundowner.pl Posted May 21, 2013 Posted May 21, 2013 Lets call it "the Pinto effect" :lol: 1 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] "If a place needs helicopters, it's probably not worth visiting." - Nick Lappos
Vlerkies Posted May 21, 2013 Posted May 21, 2013 Hahaha, I have so much laughs out of the damage modeling at crash landings with this thing. It is so rare occurrence in real life, for the helicopter to turn into a fireball at hard touchdown. Here's a video of a high speed run on landing... of course its a NOTAR bird, so something must go wrong here: Now play this and guess at which point such landing in DCS helicopter would erupt in a fireball: That one vid, autorotate? Really? seems the chopper comes in way to fast and hits hard, after impact the turbine is still spinning for the A-team? Thermaltake View 91, Z390 Gigabyte Aorus Ultra, i9 9900K, Corsair H150i Pro, 32Gb Trident Z 3200, Gigabyte Aorus Extreme 2080ti, Corsair AX1200i, Warthog A-10 Hotas, MFG Crosswind pedals, TiR5 Pro, HP Reverb Pro
FZG_Immel Posted May 21, 2013 Posted May 21, 2013 I can skid for hundred yards without damaging my helo... Been doing that for fun on online servers :) [sIGPIC]https://forums.eagle.ru/signaturepics/sigpic70550_3.gif[/sIGPIC] Asus Z390-H - SSD M.2 EVO 970 - Intel I9 @5.0ghz - 32gb DDR4 4000 - EVGA 3090 - Cougar FSSB + Virpil WRBRD + Hornet Stick - Thrustmaster TPR Pedal + WinWing MIP + Orion + TO and CO pannels - Track IR5
Robert1983NL Posted May 21, 2013 Posted May 21, 2013 As long as you keep some power in so that the full weight stays off of the ground, you can slide on and on. This would be possible in real life if the surface is really flat, and guess what, in DCS, it's really flat :)
skouras Posted May 21, 2013 Posted May 21, 2013 and guess what, in DCS, it's really flat :) second to that [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]W10(64bit)Asus Rog Strix Z370-F - i7 8700K - Dark Rock Pro 4 - 16 giga ram Corsair vengeance 3000 - MSI RTX 2070 Super - Asus Rog Phobeus soundcard - Z906 Surround speaker - Track ir5 - HOTAS Warthog
Devrim Posted May 21, 2013 Posted May 21, 2013 Yes it seems flat. But on another hand; it's flat for skid-landing, but not for parking. I mean I can skid-land on the ground (soil), but after center my cyclic, Huey lays back and loses tail rotor! I don't understand, there're still issues about the ground. Intel i7-14700@5.6GHz | MSI RTX4080 SuperSuprimX | Corsair V. 64GB@6400MHz. | Samsung 1TB 990 PRO SSD (Win10Homex64) Samsung G5 32" + Samsung 18" + 2x8"TFT Displays | TM Warthog Stick w/AVA Base | VPC MongoosT-50CM3 Throttle | TM MFD Cougars | Logitech G13, G230, G510, PZ55 & Farming Sim Panel | TIR5 & M.Quest3 VR >>MY MODS<< | Discord: Devrim#1068
cichlidfan Posted May 21, 2013 Posted May 21, 2013 I don't understand, there're still issues about the ground. Invisible sinkholes. ;) ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup:
TimeKilla Posted May 21, 2013 Posted May 21, 2013 nah its fine gotta land someway :joystick: YouTube :pilotfly: TimeKilla on Flight Sims over at YouTube.
Weta43 Posted May 22, 2013 Posted May 22, 2013 Watch this guy sliding around on his skids.... s0SN3tG4Atk Cheers.
Yurgon Posted May 22, 2013 Posted May 22, 2013 Watch this guy sliding around on his skids.... s0SN3tG4Atk Okay, is there anyone left who has not linked this video since it resurfaced about a week ago? :lol:
cichlidfan Posted May 22, 2013 Posted May 22, 2013 Okay, is there anyone left who has not linked this video since it resurfaced about a week ago? :lol: I haven't. I could start a thread for it. :P ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup:
Weta43 Posted May 22, 2013 Posted May 22, 2013 We could start a competition. - I've linked it twice. Point is, he spends a lot of time running around on his skids, on dirt, some of it at a reasonable speed. Cheers.
cichlidfan Posted May 22, 2013 Posted May 22, 2013 In all seriousness, the skids on the Huey do seem to break/collapse rather easily anytime I land from a hover a bit unbalanced. Though it is quite possible, even likely, that I am coming down hard enough for it to be accurate. ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup:
Yurgon Posted May 22, 2013 Posted May 22, 2013 Point is, he spends a lot of time running around on his skids, on dirt, some of it at a reasonable speed. You're right, and the video does illustrate real world skid sliding very well. I apologize in case my comment appeared to be negative in nature. It's just that I've seen that video linked several times in a very short time frame, I kind of couldn't resist. :smilewink: In all seriousness, the skids on the Huey do seem to break/collapse rather easily anytime I land from a hover a bit unbalanced. Though it is quite possible, even likely, that I am coming down hard enough for it to be accurate. I've lost my skids a few times and created a huge fireball many more times. But I don't think I've ever seen my skids break or collapse. Huh, I should practice some more and see whether that can be achieved as well. :D With the new FM, my landings have improved considerably, though.
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