Upgrading from 560 ti

[Taproot]

Hi

 

Have you upgraded from 560 ti to something else? If so. To what? And did you get an improvement?

 

I have a i7 2600, but suspect that the gpu is my bottleneck.. Looking to upgrade, but not sure to what.

[Rangi]

I would be interested to hear this as well however I am going to hold off on upgrades till EDGE is out and see what works best for that.....

[cichlidfan]

Hi

 

Have you upgraded from 560 ti to something else? If so. To what? And did you get an improvement?

 

I have a i7 2600, but suspect that the gpu is my bottleneck.. Looking to upgrade, but not sure to what.

 

A major upgrade might buy you a few frames but probably not enough to make it worth it, since you would have to spend over $600 for anything worthwhile. I guess it depends on how much screen you are driving and how much memory is on the 560. I had a 560 in the rig in my sig but it only had 1GB so I switched to increase VRAM.

[Esac_mirmidon]

I´m going to upgrade from my 560 to a MSI 770 Lightning this friday so i can post my results in a couple of days.

[Taproot]

My 560 ti is a 1gb card running @ 900 mhz and 1 screen.

 

Anyone know any eta on Edge? A huge E would do. :)

 

@Esac: Would be awesome if you could give me some feedback. Could you also do some digging? Compare both cards with the settings you use today and with settings on high? :)

[hegykc]

I'd also be interested to see a 770 upgrade

[Esac_mirmidon]

You can expect a full report ¡¡

[Hunden Ynk]

Great! I'm also interested. Here's a request: God vs bad weather, since that's a GPU-killer for me (edit: bad that is).

Edited August 28, 2013 by Hunden Ynk

[Esac_mirmidon]

If any of you want extra reports with any point of interest, please, leave here a comment.

 

For now i got:

 

1: 560 vs 770 with my actual settings vs All HIGH settings.

 

2: 560 vs 770 with overcast (below and above cloud level).

 

3: In cockpit difference 560 vs 770 (point of interest for me Su-27 cockpit lights on-off, Huey cockpit, A-10C TGP and Maverick).

 

Any suggestion will be welcomed

[Flogger23m]

I went from a GTX560ti 2GB to a GTX670PE OC. Performance jump in games like BF3 and Crysis 2 was huge. Performance jump in DCS was minimal to non-existent. The game hardly gets my 560ti or 670 warm, which means it is not stressing the GPU.

 

To put it simply, the current engine will not take much advantage over a faster GPU at 1920x1080. The engine is just not optimized well. Hopefully the Edge engine will make the game more stable and run faster.

[cichlidfan]

I went from a GTX560ti 2GB to a GTX670PE OC. Performance jump in games like BF3 and Crysis 2 was huge. Performance jump in DCS was minimal to non-existent. The game hardly gets my 560ti or 670 warm, which means it is not stressing the GPU.

 

To put it simply, the current engine will not take much advantage over a faster GPU at 1920x1080. The engine is just not optimized well. Hopefully the Edge engine will make the game more stable and run faster.

 

Exactly. If the goal is only DCS related then an upgrade isn't worth it. The rig in my sig is only used for flight sims, so my overclocked 580 is doing fine.

 

If the OP wants to overclock his CPU, or overclock further (assuming that is a K model), then that is more likely to provide a benefit.

[Taproot]

I dont have the K modell.

 

What i know is that the gpu load is much higher then the CPU load in dcs.

[Hunden Ynk]

I went from a GTX560ti 2GB to a GTX670PE OC. Performance jump in games like BF3 and Crysis 2 was huge. Performance jump in DCS was minimal to non-existent. The game hardly gets my 560ti or 670 warm, which means it is not stressing the GPU.

 

To put it simply, the current engine will not take much advantage over a faster GPU at 1920x1080. The engine is just not optimized well. Hopefully the Edge engine will make the game more stable and run faster.

 

I did a quick test, sitting on the runway at Krasnodar in the Su-25 and the weather set to precipitation. At 1920x1200 4x MSAA I would get a little under 30fps with 100% GPU load. Lowering to 1024x768 with no MSAA yielded 50-55FPS at 90-95% GPU load. So I was probably CPU bound at that point. That kind of improvement would make me happy.

 

I dont have the K modell.

 

What i know is that the gpu load is much higher then the CPU load in dcs.

 

Ignore this if you already know;). But keep in mind that if you look in the Task Manager and see a CPU load of 12,5%, it's a sign that one core is being used 100%. Since DCS at best utilizes two cores, you will never see a load greater than 25%. I get a little under 20%. Almost forgot, those percentages are for me, running 8 logical cores.

Edited August 29, 2013 by Hunden Ynk
Spelling

[Taproot]

Those CPU percent facts was interesting.. My load is around 13 percent.

 

Gawd, this is a tough one..

 

Need to do some more load checks.

[Taproot]

My friends that i fly with have newer cpus, but they are practicly all the same. The big difference tho is that they have better gpu, 660ti, 670 and titan. They all run on max settings. I dont. I have 16gb ram and dcs on ssd aswell.

[Hunden Ynk]

You can try to do what I did, lower the resolution as much as possible and disable any AA. That should hopefully make you CPU-bound, kind of simulating a GPU upgrade.

[Taproot]

Im sorry, i dont understand, how can this simulate a gpu upgrade? :-)

[Hadwell]

lol simulate a gpu upgrade by downgrading the graphics... thats like simulating mario brothers 3 for nintendo by playing kong for atari...

 

that being said... the only videocards really worth getting now are the gtx680, or gtx770 or better... from a gtx560Ti... even a gtx760 would be a vast improvement i believe.

 

good site: http://gpuboss.com/gpus/GeForce-GTX-760-vs-GeForce-GTX-560-Ti

Edited August 29, 2013 by Hadwell

[Taproot]

I have access to another 560 ti. I can trie sli. I might get an idea there if a new gpu will help?

[Hunden Ynk]

lol simulate a gpu upgrade by downgrading the graphics...

 

[...] kind of [...]

 

But yeah, you're right. However my point was, that it makes you CPU bound, not GPU bound, hence reducing resolution and AA, settings that are strictly loading the GPU. And you do that to see what your CPU is is capable of, how it would perform with more flex at the GPU side.

If you're already CPU bound at your preferred resolution, then upgrading your graphics card would yield you nil.

Edited August 29, 2013 by Hunden Ynk

[Taproot]

So i did a trakk test and checked the load on CPU. All 4 cores where active and was between 7 to 15 percent. Had some peaks on 20 on 1 of them. When I alt-tabbed all 4 went up to 50.

 

The gpu on the other hand was close to 100 percent.

 

I had about 20 fps on average.

 

Next thing is to test sli.

[whartsell]

I have a 3770K 8GB ram and SSD with two monitors running a total res 1920x2160. Going from a 6970 with 2gb vram to a 770GTX with 4gb ram doubled my low fps from in the low 20s to the mid-upper 40s with no settings change. My average (light object) fps went from 50s to the 90s. That was with no fps limit. I do limit the fps at 31 to remove any jitter in frame rate.

 

this was not a scientific test. I have had my 770 for over a month and am very happy with it.

It also made a nice difference in FSX as well ( i run that limited at 33)

 

I wasnt concerned about max fps per say but am extremely happy with its consistency

[Taproot]

Whats your CPU clock?

[xracer]

Some hard facts data below:

 

 

I drawn groups with black lines over what i think will be a real difference in performance IF the CPU is really high end and/or overclocked. If i had a 580 right now i would never upgraded to something less than a 770 with as much Vram as possible. But then again when you buy a high end 770 there isnt too much more to get a 780 and by the numbers the leap from 770 and below to 780 or above is huge. Anyway will that translate into the same increase with EDGE i really really doubt it. I think we're CPU bottlenecked for quite a while still. But if it does i would be more than happy!

[xxJohnxx]

I run the 3770K at 4.5 GHz, with the GTX 560Ti.

Today my GTX 780 arrived, however my case is to small. If you want me, I will give you a short briefing in the following days if you want me to.

 

Short size comparison:

 

 

 

Edited August 29, 2013 by xxJohnxx