ED Team Yo-Yo Posted October 10, 2013 ED Team Posted October 10, 2013 You think that Mk IX will make you an absolute winner? I have bad news for those who consider P-51 too stick sensitive and thus prone to stall... :) As Spitfire has neutral stability there is only 3/4" of stick travel to stall as it was reported by NACA. Really silk hands or full scale joystick required... :) It will be no mercy, hardcore only - all will be as Mitchell designed. 1 Ніщо так сильно не ранить мозок, як уламки скла від розбитих рожевих окулярів There is nothing so hurtful for the brain as splinters of broken rose-coloured spectacles. Ничто так сильно не ранит мозг, как осколки стекла от разбитых розовых очков (С) Me
SlipBall Posted October 10, 2013 Posted October 10, 2013 (edited) Cool!...the spit is my target then :smilewink: Edited October 10, 2013 by GT 5.0
Axion Posted October 10, 2013 Posted October 10, 2013 Sounds like this flight model will bring a new meaning to the word hardcore? Looking forward to it Yo-Yo! Asus Z390 Code XI, i9-9900K, RAM 32 Gig Corsair Vengeance @ 3200, RTX 2080 TI FE, TIR 5, Samsung 970 EVO 1TB, HOTAS WH, ASUS ROG Swift PG279Q, HTC Vive Pro, Win 10 x64
ED Team NineLine Posted October 10, 2013 ED Team Posted October 10, 2013 You think that Mk IX will make you an absolute winner? I have bad news for those who consider P-51 too stick sensitive and thus prone to stall... :) As Spitfire has neutral stability there is only 3/4" of stick travel to stall as it was reported by NACA. Really silk hands or full scale joystick required... :) It will be no mercy, hardcore only - all will be as Mitchell designed. Well because of ED/RRG I think someone will need to design full scale Flight Sticks then :) Oh wait... someone already did ;) http://www.spitsim.co.uk/ Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug**
ED Team Yo-Yo Posted October 10, 2013 Author ED Team Posted October 10, 2013 I am impressed... Ніщо так сильно не ранить мозок, як уламки скла від розбитих рожевих окулярів There is nothing so hurtful for the brain as splinters of broken rose-coloured spectacles. Ничто так сильно не ранит мозг, как осколки стекла от разбитых розовых очков (С) Me
Abburo Posted October 10, 2013 Posted October 10, 2013 Oh yes, spitfire stability is the elliptical wing effect. Go for it Yo-Yo... make it as hardcore you can, this is the DCS way. Romanian Community for DCS World HW Specs: AMD 7900X, 64GB RAM, RTX 4090, HOTAS Virpil, MFG, CLS-E, custom
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted October 10, 2013 ED Team Posted October 10, 2013 She should be a challenge to take off and land :) Hardcore all the way :) Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, PIMAX Crystal
Flying Penguin Posted October 10, 2013 Posted October 10, 2013 Yo-Yo, you continue to make me a very happy man.... Spits all the way! 1 Per Ardua Ad Aquarium :drink: Specs: Intel i7-9700K, GTX 2080TI, 32GB DDR4, ASUS ROG Strix Z390-E, Samsung 970 EVO NVMe M.2
ED Team NineLine Posted October 10, 2013 ED Team Posted October 10, 2013 She should be a challenge to take off and land :) Hardcore all the way :) Yup, I will never fly a real Spitfire, I expect ED to get me as close as possible... and I expect every good AND bad about the flight experience :) I have my Albert Price book on my desk, flipping through it now and again just waiting for the first flight :) Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug**
Flying Penguin Posted October 10, 2013 Posted October 10, 2013 Oh and per the thread title, Mk V AND Mk IX? Per Ardua Ad Aquarium :drink: Specs: Intel i7-9700K, GTX 2080TI, 32GB DDR4, ASUS ROG Strix Z390-E, Samsung 970 EVO NVMe M.2
ED Team NineLine Posted October 10, 2013 ED Team Posted October 10, 2013 Oh and per the thread title, Mk V AND Mk IX? They were pretty much the same aircraft.... Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug**
ED Team Yo-Yo Posted October 10, 2013 Author ED Team Posted October 10, 2013 Oh yes, spitfire stability is the elliptical wing effect. Go for it Yo-Yo... make it as hardcore you can, this is the DCS way. No, it is intended telative airframe and CG position. Neutral stability was quite popular in 30'. Polikarpov's I-16 has the same neutral or almost neutral stability but Spit was easier to handle because it was better dampened due to longer fuselage and tail arm. Ніщо так сильно не ранить мозок, як уламки скла від розбитих рожевих окулярів There is nothing so hurtful for the brain as splinters of broken rose-coloured spectacles. Ничто так сильно не ранит мозг, как осколки стекла от разбитых розовых очков (С) Me
ATAG_Snapper Posted October 10, 2013 Posted October 10, 2013 Time to seriously look into an extension for my Warthog stick.......:joystick:
bongodriver Posted October 10, 2013 Posted October 10, 2013 3/4" is about the slack in my joystick before the FF motors bite, should be ok, just don't forget to model the superb turning performance.
ED Team NineLine Posted October 10, 2013 ED Team Posted October 10, 2013 3/4" is about the slack in my joystick before the FF motors bite, should be ok, just don't forget to model the superb turning performance. I am sure it will be modelled, but you will probably have to bring your A game in order to get the most out of her... wont be easy to be the best :) Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug**
9.JG27 DavidRed Posted October 10, 2013 Posted October 10, 2013 nice thread yo-yo... this just made me really eager to fly the spit as well... i hope such pieces of information about the fw190, and the 109k4 will arise soon as well. cheers
bongodriver Posted October 10, 2013 Posted October 10, 2013 it doesn't sound like the Spitfire that totally green rookies found 'easy to fly', this is another one of those debates that rages on like the 109 bar, but in this case I have faith in Yo-yo and his access to experienced Spitfire pilots for feedback.
Flying Penguin Posted October 10, 2013 Posted October 10, 2013 They were pretty much the same aircraft.... But I thought we were only getting one, even if they are very closely related versions.... Per Ardua Ad Aquarium :drink: Specs: Intel i7-9700K, GTX 2080TI, 32GB DDR4, ASUS ROG Strix Z390-E, Samsung 970 EVO NVMe M.2
Endy Posted October 10, 2013 Posted October 10, 2013 Thankfully anyone can manipulate the joystick curves in DCS in any plane to suit their preference so there shouldn't be any problems. Just a matter of adjusting a bit.
SlipBall Posted October 10, 2013 Posted October 10, 2013 (edited) I can't remember the airshow or the pilot's name speaking. But he was asked to compare the spit and 109 on turning. He without any hesitation, said the 109 was hands down superior...sorry, can't remember the model spit or the 109's that he has flown. Edited October 10, 2013 by GT 5.0
AndyJWest Posted October 10, 2013 Posted October 10, 2013 Regarding the 'elliptical wing effect', it is worth remembering that the Spitfire has noticeable washout too - something like 3 degrees, from memory. Consequently, the wing root should generally stall before the tips.
bongodriver Posted October 10, 2013 Posted October 10, 2013 Which it did, hence why the Spit was regarded well for giving good warning of imminent stall from buffet.
JtD Posted October 10, 2013 Posted October 10, 2013 You think that Mk IX will make you an absolute winner? I have bad news for those who consider P-51 too stick sensitive and thus prone to stall... :) As Spitfire has neutral stability there is only 3/4" of stick travel to stall as it was reported by NACA. Really silk hands or full scale joystick required... :) It will be no mercy, hardcore only - all will be as Mitchell designed.The CoG of a service Spitfire IX was about 3% MAC further forward than that of the tested Spitfire V and the control characteristics were considerably different.
bongodriver Posted October 10, 2013 Posted October 10, 2013 I was told by Sammy Sampson of the BBMF that the MkV Spitfire was the only Mark ever fitted with the 'bob weight' to counter the neutral stability.
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