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Israel might be a good example of Eagle's superiority but it stood up against early MiG-21 versions, a plane that was turning obsolete even in early '80s. F-15 were brought from US to counter Soviet MiG-25 and 25R that operated in the area and were piloted by Soviet pilots but hasn't scored any Foxbat kills at that time! Iraqi MiG-29, MiG-23 and Mirage F1 fleet during Dester Storm was in poor condition, believe me as I saw Iraqi MiG-23 that arrived to ZMAJ Zagreb in 1990 for major overhaul. Those planes never returned to Iraq as the war broke out in both Iraq and Yugoslavia. Experience of Iraqi pilots was lame (I remember F1 and Fulcrum driver's CFIT from Dogfights show). Credit goes to F-15C pilots, but in fact... Iraqi AF was capable of military show flyby showing of Iraqi might and dusting people's eyes but combat capability was questionable. Allied Force was another story, YUAF had 14 Fulcrums in total (12*9-12A & 2*9-51). Planes were bought from USSR in 1987, war in these regions broke out in 1991, Fulcrums were reallocated from Slovania, Croatia and BiH to Batajnica and Slatina AB, embargo struck, no spares, no flights, no personell for complete 9 years. Yugoslav pilots did take off against NATO planes but MiGs never operated in pairs simply because there was no airworthy airframes to make a pair. Single Red Fulcrum against 100+ Blue (NATO) aircraft. Perhaps realistic scenario would be twice as many Red fighters in air combat but in fact... Edit: The name of entire operation (Allied Force) perhaps suggests 12*F-15C from USAF, but 60+ Falcons (dutch, USAF, Italian, Norwegian) 60+ F/A-18 (USMC and Navy, Spain) British F3 Tornados so entire NATO fighter fleet easily piles up to 100+ So perfect scenario for online LOFC would favor Blue side and HUD, autopilot, radar, MFD, hydro, failures enabled for Red flights, IMHO! Sorry for OT reply, but I had to take us there because of RL comparison!

http://www.irconnect.com/noc/press/pages/news_releases.html?d=143660 http://www.northropgrumman.com/kc45/ I think it looks awsome! :D

:ermm:...Didn't this post start off being about the ET? Think we've gotten a little bit OT haven't we? Sad to see another thread hijacked like this....Just my opinion.

Croatia still making choices, our pilots test all offered fighters and one of them is Robert Krznaric pilot in Swedish AF!

И каждому по линейке выдать.

Do you really think that these situations took part constantly? I agree - e.g. the fight on 30 March'99 when 4 F16AM engaged 3 Mig29 that had just taken off from Batajnica. But the fight on 24 March with major Kulachin? or with major Arizanov and Milutinovich? Theirs fights shows us the other picture

Про трек слышно что нибудь?

Курс простой! Попроси друга быть рядом, когда ты летаешь в инете. Как сбит, так он должен тебя ударить сильно, но не критично, по голове. Это серьёзно!!!! Меня так научили на БМП проходить гребёнку (очень сложное для прохождения препятствие, при неправильном от десанта мешёк с костями остаётся!)

Pretty scary! I'll choose a helo if I ever go there!

http://br.youtube.com/watch?v=v_z5HtME9n8 Found this in Drudge. Sadly- I think it was a "related link" to an accident there today.

2 MNT :pilotfly: Бальзам на раны. Прям дни радости, а завтра у меня безлимитку подключат, так я на сервер рвану. И ваще буду в три раза счастливей.

Да пожалуйста, прям не жалко, лень было подбирать на все самолёты камеры, да, там косяк может быть в зависимости от подвесок, я отдельно подбирал для КМГУ и ракет, а какие сохранил и выложил не помню, разберётесь.

@Pilotasso Its because nothing changes. We can all come to some agreement on what -should- be different, but we can't make any changes. I feel funny saying that having been here for such short time compared to others. The gap between what LOMAC is and what we think it should be is probably what makes this community so engaging and interesting. Check out the Falcon discussions. Everyone's so enamored with that damn program, and its just so perfect, that all they do is sit around and pat each other on the back. They don't talk about squat.

You should be a lawyer for sure. The cheatriots need all they can get. :helpsmilie: Matt Walsh aside, how long has belly-cheat been a bass-turd?

F-16 changes things up a bit though ... the MiG-29 is more of a match, even in the A version :)

Горностай, +200!!!

Well Kuky does make a valid point regarding overwhelming force applied to a very small threat. The idea that the USAF had waves of fighters and decided to shoot from the hip and allow a fair fight with the Migs or any other engagement is just insane. This is the difference between real pilots and VP pilots. Real pilots don't see any merit in selling their side as being as weak as their opponent especially when up against such a weak enemy. The USAF hasn't faced an A2A opponent that was realistically capable of shooting anything down when up against so much air power since Vietnam . This is a credit to how well oiled the USAF actually is and the smartest thing an enemy can do is to berry their fighters in the sand and hope to weather the onslaught. I mean no F15 has ever been shot down but how many USAF A10's have been shot down by an A2A missile...? In fact when was the last time any aircraft in the US inventory was shot down by an airborne aggressor? Trying to sell any engagement of the USAF post Nam as anything other than a turkey shoot is as misguided as believing the F15 is not the best fighter in the world (save 4th, 5th gen fighters of course). The Eagle and Ammram partnership builds on the same idea that the USAF have been building on since WWII. And that is to make a fighter easy to use with a weapons system that doesn't require an ACE to get a kill.. Why? Well becasue it's the average pilot that wins a war. P51/47/ F86/ etc All great fighters that used the same weapons system, 50 cal machine guns when everyone else was using cannons, which required a much higher skill level to hit a target. Squeezing the trigger on four to eight 50's means you're gonna hit something... Pure genius IMO and most other countries don't really consider the entire package when integrating a fighter into a winning "Airforce". Now if the Eagle and it's weapons system were modeled in LO as they should be then you better believe they would be much more deadly than they are right now, but anything is beatable it just means tactics have to be adjusted ie stay out of the NEZ ;) etc. Edit: berry huh.. lol I meant bury.

Rgr, will do! Thank you! I ask myself if the uploaded file on the JaBoG32-Website is the correct one. How can I find out?

Welcome to LockOn Community Exercise Red Flag 2008. This thread is an information thread only, just as last years threads. It ill be designed to disseminate information to the community about this mission LOCERF 08-3. Please post your questions etc over on the 159th forums found here: http://www.the159th.com/forum It will continue to be the official spot for all planning etc. Please be advised that the LOCERF rules have been amended and can be viewed here: http://www.the159th.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3387 LOCERF 08-3 DATES: The next mission will commence at 0500 zulu on 31 May 2008. If you are interested in participating in the next RedFlag please PM me no later than 14 May 2008 at 2300 zulu. You must include in your post: Number of Slots Requested The type of aircraft you request (for example 3Sqn requests 4 Su-25t's and 4 Su-33's) If you do not PM me with this information then you will not be considered for the next mission. __________________ All Lonewolf Pilots: Please PM with the same information. Unless you have already done so, you will be required to pass a checkride in order to participate in the mission. __________________ The number of pilots that will participate in this mission will be limited to what is considered maximum for server stability. IF YOU REQUEST A SLOT IN REDFLAG YOU MUST BE ABLE TO FILL IT!!!!!! In the past we have had teams who decided to leave or pull out of the mission at the last moment. Please be considerate of your team mates and realize that you are hurting your entire team by not showing up. This also includes briefings etc, make sure you represent your squad and yourself well and attend scheduled briefings and the mission. S!

Su-27 from 2 Eskader in Suid-Afrikaanse Lugmag (South African Airforce) 1970's /Early 1980's. Fictional skin. The SAAF was offered Su-35's but chose the SAAB Gripen. CREDITS: 159th_Sandman at The 159th Aviation Regiment..

Hey, thanks a lot :) It has been a long and hard work (actually, it's our 3rd version of the mod, but we wanted to get the best results) :) Cheers :) Hub.