Skwirl865

Any update to this? I have the same problem. My youngest son and I use the same pc mostly. Sometimes I can use my oldest sons but it’s not so powerful and I don’t have one because I don’t game but dcs looked super interesting and i figure it was something we could learn and teach each other. We’re both pretty new. I bought him the f18 and the fc3 planes and got myself the fc3 planes and the 16. We use different acts on dcs and different user accounts on the computer but I get notifications asking for authorizations anytime I open dcs.

That’s actually what I did but it would be really nice to have that extra spot or 2 free and be able to just chaff or flare in the moment instead of one, then switch programs and then do the other. if we could just edit the panic button program, that would be perfect

I know the programs are programmable but u only have access to 1 at a time right? Like u can’t fire program 1 and then immediately fire program 2. U have to change programs and THEN fire program 2. im hoping there’s a way to edit the panic button profile and just set it to be either chaff or flare and set the other one as the other so I can have a chaff button and a flare button and not have to turn a knob between the 2.

i mean like the hit the flare button and 1 flare comes out, hit the other button, 1 chaff comes out. is this bpssible and if so, is it complicated to make happen? having to drop both at the same time OR having to stitch programs in the heat of the moment is just horrible.

Which one did u go with? I have the gladiator nxt and just got the virpil cm2 throttle. The fact that they’re not the same doesn’t effect me because I use joystick gremlin to give me my mode selection and with joystick gremlin, your modes span all your devices so when I change modes, I can change modes for both the stick and the throttle. it also lets me do short press and long press for different functions so I mapped the f1-f12 to the 6 lighted buttons on the throttle. Best thing EVER! I can control all the functions from atc to tanker to formations to attack commands for my flight, even the f10 map amd return to cockpit, all in 6 buttons without taking my hands away from the hotas. the amount of buttons on the virpil throttle just makes it perfect for everything for me.

If it’s “a completely ridiculous way of mapping controls”, just tell me a better way of mapping all atc commands, all tanker commands, all formation commands, all inter flight(attack my target,etc), all “view” commands, f10 map and return to cockpit view, all by using only 6 physical buttons total. No modifier buttons or anything. tell me a better way of doing that without using any external software or keyboard bindings and without taking my hands off the hotas. if u can do that, I’ll concede that it’s a ridiculous way of mapping. If not, then consider that maybe other people may have intended goals that justify or require the use of things and methods different than yours and there’s nothing ridiculous about that. It may even potentially be better once u look into it. I know I absolutely LOVE having my f1-f12 mapped to my hotas and still have more room left than I’ll ever need.

I hadn’t thought of that when I was doing it and tbh, though there are a good few common keyboard mappings that are basically the same from aricraft to aircraft like canopy close, THC slew and depress/lock, trigger, gear, flaps(for the most part), weapon release and stuff like that, there aren’t nearly as many as I had hoped so that wouldn’t have been a bad option and I’ll actually probably use vjoy to map the buttons I have that don’t have a keyboard command since u have to use vjoy anyway with joystick gremlin so it’s already in the device listing. I definitely don’t want to start over tho. I’ve already mapped pretty much my entire parent profile already. It works great tho. I’m super happy with it and the hood thing is, I used the keyboard profile from “baileys voice attack” with that extensive set of keyboard commands to map my controls to so it’ll all mesh well and if Something happens to the added keybinds in dcs, they’ll always be available to download and reinstall. the mode switch is worth it for me by itself but what I’ve found to be super useful in doing what I did is on the virpil cm2 theres 6 lighted buttons on the center of the base that I mapped to f1-f12 by doing short press/long press so f1 is short press button 1 and f2 is long press button 1. I’ve found that to be super helpful and since those buttons serve different functions in different situations, u have the functionality of probably 3x those 12 buttons in just 6 buttons without even having to use modifier buttons. Works like a charm. All the comms commands, formations, flight attack, atc, tanker, f10 map and different views, all in those 6 buttons. it’s great! I absolutely LOVE this throttle and the fact that even tho I have a mismatched stick and throttle(vkb and virpil) that don’t necessarily work together software wise, I can still turn the mode switch on the throttle and it will change for both the stick and the throttle alike, is just amazing.

MyJoystickGremlinAndVirpilThrottleConfigs.zip 457.14 kB · 0 downloads Thank you. I’m gonna definitely have something to do when I get there. I’m using my phone right now so I can’t download it till I get home. do u have the illustration of the 16 and 18 in there like u did with the f-14 in this post? That is SO helpful do be able to look at the entire layout overall. U can also print it and put it next to u when you’re flying. That’s the quickest quick reference u could ever have. I do have a couple questions tho. One thing I haven’t found a video on is how to create and use “modifier” in joystick gremlin. That and when I do axis to button presses, they work in both directions in the virpil software but it seems than joystick gremlin only sends them when the axis moves in one direction and not the other so for Instance, my virtual detents for idle will fire when I push forward thru them but when I pull back to zero thru the range, the button presses don’t light up in joystick gremlin but they do light up in the virpil joytester software. I hope that makes sense lol

I did that with the “lever” axis. Not 3 but 2. I did between gear up at 100%, 60-80% is flaps up, flaps down between 20-40% and gear down at 0%. you’re right about it working like a charm. I love this thing and I haven’t had it but 3 days lol. I misread what u were saying. I have my encoders set the same way but to different functions but the same for hmcs in the hornet and f-16. I think I might steal your kneeboard encoder binding. I may actually switch my countermeasures to where yours is too now that I think about it. It makes more sense than the thumb hat on the stick

That’s the only real reason I’m using joystick gremlin. I need the complex functionality. The dcs mapping is super user friendly and I love it but 3rd party software is the only way I can do everything I’m trying to do. U called it out exactly. It’s the multiple layers that make it a necessity. I want to fully utilize the modes switch on the virpil throttle and joystick gremlin allows u to create different modes that span across all devices. When you’re trying to learn and fly in vr, it’s having an almost unlimited number of buttons can be a huge help when trying to not to have to lift the headset to interact with the keyboard. Up until now I was always conscious of saving a copy of my dcs profiles separately with a copy elsewhere so I wasn’t too worried about losing them. It was just an added bonus to not have to do that even though I still probably will.

I had to use mapping software “joystick gremlin” to get the full functionality I wanted out of my throttle. To fully use the modes switch and get all the buttons to have different actions in different modes, requires 3rd party mapping software. it’s not ridiculous. It actually works quite well. I don’t know what u mean by “problem I created myself”. The “not having to remap” risk is an added bonus and the risk of losing keybindings is real. Many have lost their key bindings after a dcs update. From what I’ve read, it’s not uncommon at all. 3rd party mapping software adds functionality that otherwise isn’t available otherwise. U may not need it or choose not to use it but that doesn’t mean that it’s not worth it to someone else. If the virpil software or dcs could do those other things like for example, the full functionality of the mode switch, then no one would use third party software but clearly many people do so to assume it’s “ridiculous” just because u choose not to use or explore that added functionality is ridiculous. also having software running in the background isn’t foreign to many. I came from an x52 which has the Saitek software running in the background. It didn’t cause any problems and has a lot of added functionality is used to it’s potential. Fact is, your opinion is you’d and you’re welcome to it but someone choosing a more functional path is not ridiculous just because it deviates from your personal preference. be a little more open minded and a little less hostile in your expression of your opinion. Criticism is rarely constructive when worded like u worded your comment. I’m here fire help, not ridicule. if u can’t or don’t want to help, then why waste either of our time and if your intention actually IS to help, then maybe try to be more constructive than destructive. You’ll find that the results are almost always better.

I mean if u create a virtual axis in the virpil software and u open dcs, will u bind it in the “axis commands” section of dcs controls or in the regular keybinds section. Will it still show up as button presses or like a real axis in dcs

Does it show up as an axis in dcs?

U can do it with the radar cursor in the 18 tho right? Like slew over the up arrow on the screen and push the button and it’ll do it?

I did that for osb 17-20 and couldn’t be happier! Thanks man!

Yea. I did t think there was a way so I just mapped those osb buttons to my hotas along wth the 2 below it so I can have full radar control without taking my hand off the stick

I just mapped a 4way hat to left osb 17,18,19 and 20. That gave me control of radar elevation bars, azimuth, and range. it actually works quite well

That only works in rws mode tho right?. I use tws mode mostly so I need to be able to do it there.

the first is how to set up a modifier like in dcs. i have a virpil cm2 and have the modes set up in joystick gremlin thanks to havoc on youtube but cant find a video on creating modifiers.

yea, mapping a virpil cm2 and a gladiator nxt to default dcs key commands. im doing it in joystick gremlin so any that match will already be there when i open another aircraft and like u said, change as needed. hoping to save myself some papping work later on by doing it the long way in the beginning. also save myself the risk of losing all that work if something happens to dcs and i have to reinstall or an update ruins them.

I didn’t figure there were many. I was just hoping lol im mapping my controls by keyboard command outside of dcs instead of with buttons. I’m hoping some translate and make setting up the other aircraft less work

What does this do? I’ve tried to look it up but havent seen any kind of explaination. also what is the bind for changing the fcr viewing range from 20-40-80 amd back down?

How old? What range are you looking for?

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Sounds good to me. I dont mind sanding but I’m not even sure I care about the cosmetics enough for it to matter. how much?