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And the simple fix (practically one line I think) to stop DCS falling over when an Oculus headset is taken off.

No need. The point was to rename the old folders so that Oculus can't fins them. Create a new file, e.g. a text file, by right-clicking and selecting "text document". Windows generates a new file and highlights the name for you to rename. Just select the whole filename including the extension then type "tmp". That creates a file without an extension. I'm surprised in this age you didn't know that. That's not a reflection on you, but a reflection on me expecting everyone to know it.

You mean SteamVR? Yes, that and Virtual Desktop are ok as they don’t use the Oculus runtime. But you lose any openXR mods/tools you may have been using.

Using an Oculus headset? If you are using the Oculus link and the app on the PC is v63, DCS crashes when entering VR space. If you have the PTC enabled (public test channel) on the PC Oculus app, disable it. You might be lucky and revert to v62. If not, a workaround is to switch to SteamVR or use the Virtual Desktop app - both of which use their own runtime to connect to Oculus headsets instead of the Oculus runtime library. ED is aware of the bug that Meta has introduced and are investigating. v63 general release went live on Tuesday 5th March so I am expecting more people to come forward with this craash.

Meta said it’s for ED to fix. So you can assume it does still crash DCS.

Hey @rafalg78, can you provide the adjusted 3D model for the 90mAh battery, please?

It's been tried. I don't think anyone got them to work.

They don’t work with PCs from what I remember and don’t have left/right mouse click options. They’re just swipe controls I think.. Yes. It’s the PC that sees them as mice. Yeah, except they don’t.

@BIGNEWY v63 of Oculus is now going live. It would be sensible to have a hotfix imminently. Are you able to share where the team is with this, please?

Firstly, many thanks for sharing your work. I think the Quest Pro is similar. If you move your head whilst keeping your hand in the same position, the cursor will move. That's just because the camera sensor is moving in relation to the hand. So, it looks like the hand is moving. I expect pointctrl performs the same. I have modified your code somewhat. Just minor things such as reporting the device as a mouse (code 962), setting ble.name so "Right Mouse Ring" shows in windows post connection rather than CIRCUITPYxxxx. Also, I have switched to 9.0.0-beta.2 of circuitpy so that I can use the newer adafruit libraries that support more features of adafruit_debouncer.Button such as "fell", "rose" and "long_press". I'm now trying to get battery status to show in the Bluetooth connection but struggling at the moment. I'll happily push up to your github repo if you would like to see the changes. I think not as a straightforward cursor. The hand tracking in DCS is designed to show hands and interact with the cockpit with fingers. Frankly, it doesn't work well enough to be of anyuse. A simple mouse emulation is best until something better comes along.

You need to use HTCC for the hand tracking. fredemmott/HTCC: Hand tracking for flight simulator cockpit clicking (github.com)

Rename the folders first. Then create two files called Staging and tmp. This will prevent Oculus from using the Staging and tmp folders thus blocks any updates.

The battery is on the far side of the module in the photo. It’s charged via USB-C. The Slugnouse emulates mouse clicks or joystick button presses. Hand tracking is performed by your headset or an Ultra Leap Motion Controller and HTCC. You can use it with a G2 and a LeapMotion hand tracker. More details of this in the link supplied.

UPDATE: Fixed initialisation failure introduced by the Feb 2024 release of DCS. dcs2target.zip now at v1.0.8. TMHotasLEDSync.zip unchanged.

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Super. Thanks for the update. I’m sure that’s going to put a lot of minds at rest.

@BIGNEWY as predicted. Meta has pushed back on this despite it clearly being a change that they have made and have redirected me to Eagle Dynamics and Khronos.org! Has the team made any progress on this as I expect Meta will push this out for general release in a couple of weeks.

At least they are being upfront about it. I bet your ISP is collecting a ton of data about what websites you visit, when, how often, how long for, etc, etc, etc. Yet no one is screaming from the hilltops over that. Same with Microsoft I expect. Amazon is collecting everything you look at and buy, how you buy it, how often and so on and so on. Phone company the same. Utility companies.. the same. Satnav company... the same. Even Apple has been found to record breadcrumb trails of your movements, and what wifi you connect to. Banks... ATMs.... supermarkets.... petrol stations.... To be blunt about it..... everything you are doing digitally involves some form of data capture... about you.

Ok. It’s just that if you have both installed you should only use the turbo mode in qvfr.

Are you also using the quad view foveated rendering openxr layer?

Sure but it isn't related to DCS crashing with v^3 PTC. This is an issue with the Oculus app and your headset. So to avoid this thread going off-track, please raise a new thread. Ta.

That’s some other problem. This one is specific to v63 PTC and DCS crashing on entry to VR space. Probably better if you create a new thread or raise it on the meta support forum.

I am about to embark on building these myself. I don't know why I didn't do this sooner. Perhaps it is because I bought a Quest Pro and use HTCC for hand tracking and pinch gestures for left and right click. However, the pinch gestures I've never been too happy about. I have had a pointctrl on order for 21 months now so I'm very close to mine being available. However, most of the pointctrl system will be wasted on the Quest Pro. I saw a post on Facebook that does something similar but then found this which is a much sleeker design. So I bought a 3D printer and have all the parts on order. I thought by the time I've paid out on pointctl, I might as well buy a 3D printer and make my own! Now my only question of concern is about the plastic ring wearing out my new Thrustmaster Viper throttle paintwork and labelling. Has anyone who uses these types of ring controllers found this to be a problem? I am considering either applying some heat-shrink around the ring, some fabric or perhaps modify the design to use elastic rather than plastic for the section that attaches to the finger.

You need to opt out of the PTC in the Oculus PC app. Just that, shouldn't need to roll back the headset. I say this as I never received a v63 headset update anyway.

ED is not handling the Quest in this regard particularly well as I understand it. mbucchia added a workaround in his Quad View Foveated Rendering OpenXR layer. The fix is fairly simple and ED could incorporate it into their code should they choose. In the meantime, you could install QVFR and if you don't like it, you can disable it for DCS... but the sleep fix still works. That's what I have done.