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@Saruman Thanks to Cairo we now have a great benchmark city. I tried Radeon Chill and it takes away too much performance for me but as you have intel cpu and a 1080p monitor we cannot really compare performance. The SAM setting really does up my performance as it opens up access to Vram for the CPU on a big scale. Like all of it. That is a big deal if your AMD cpu is not top tier like my 5800x. There are benefits of going all AMD. That sets me up now, on watercooling, for a hotspot of 95C while GPU overall is about 55C. No upscaler over Cairo with all settings max nets 50FPS on a 4K monitor. RSR enabled it stays at 58-60FPS if I don't look to the sides, then it drops to a small slide show at 50fps again. 100k pre rendering. ALL 24gb used and also 34-36gb system ram utilized. Going from a 6800XT to a 7900XTX was a big upgrade. I can't imagine how bored your 7900XTX must be with a 6700K and 1080p.

Yeah like already mentioned here, FSR 2.0 seem unpolished and as others here I also get ghosting and some of the edges seem to dont remove jaggies even with TAA enabled. BUT helluva update! Holy crap this was a nice one! If you're on a pure AMD system try the RSR instead. It is an upscaler and supersampler on the driver side and it works better than FSR for me. Have NOT tested running the game vanilla on my brand spanking new 7900XTX yet tho. That's on the list for today. Thanks @Saruman for mentioning Radeon Chill. Will try that also. 7900XTX does like to be hawt. 5800x, 7900xtx, 64gb 3600mhz CL18 ram. IF = 1:1 and SAM enabled.

End of Multi gpu rigs (SLI/Crossfire) was/is a common endeavor by the manufacturers. Back in the day while it was kinda working you could buy two lower tier gpus and have more performance than with a single top dawg gpu for less money. Guess what, there's more money in it for ie. Nvidia to sell you a 4090 and make $4-600 pure profit PER CARD.

Cuz stupid people with stupid money keeps buying.

It changes a lot because there's a big difference between a spatial upscaler and a supersampler. RSR is both. Not "just" a spatial upscaler like NIS, or "just" a spatial upscaler like FSR or "just" a supersampler like DLSS. Wording it like RSR is the same as Nvidia NIS which is "just" an upscaler is misleading at best. If you don't know, don't argue. No offense.

RSR is a spatial upscaler AND supersampler, so what you're posting is not correct. The reason why AMD prompts you to disable RSR if you're going to run FSR in a supported game is because they share the same algorithm. You will be running two "identical" algorithms at the same time and that can result in a conflict/time complexity between them. In other words, lesser performance. But please keep going. I see where you're coming from.

RSR is the same algorithm as FSR. Enable RSR, whatever sharpening you can use and downscale the native resolution in game to what's prompted. Double check that GPU scaling is enabled. It should automatically be enabled when running RSR. If you have a Intel/AMD system you won't benefit from SAM which I highly suspect means a lot if you run RSR. It's the same algorithm as FSR and it's called RSR, but you can't really say what FSR or RSR version it is. But close enough to say that FSR works with DCS, because both FSR and RSR is spatial upscaling. Difference eing RSR is also supersampling and you have to set it manually, unlike FSR and DLSS. Adrenaline drivers have matured a great deal. I tried the RSR setting a year ago and it was crap compared to now. The difference being that just because the game don't "support" FSR, that doesn't mean RSR which is driver based will not work. There's no in game menu that let's you enable it. Another point of interest might be that FSR have a higher performance value but I'm not so sure about that in DCS. I went from 30fps to steady 55-60fps in a heavy as hell multiplayer server at 4k native res. The server mission eats all 16gigs of Vram and run 36gb RAM on top of the 4 gig system RAM.

FSR 3 works with DCS. Just apply it in adrenaline and do whats instructed in the AMD software. Definitely a performance increase for me. 6800XT 5800X.

I wouldnt say the Viper is very complex, it's more purpose built and pilot/human interface oriented. Lots of things on it is simplified compared to a Hornet or even a Tomcat IMO. Flip side of that is its not truly a multirole like a Hornet or Mudhen. You're like that woman in the bar that just wont stop teasing but when you approach her she's not interested. Come on son! Get her out there!

Hint: Thread title. Hint 2: Both planes OP asks for are fly by wire. Well not exactly the F15E but in essence it might as well be, because of the stability augmentation computer flcs in the E. But lets talk about biplanes next. Or triplanes!

Yeah your problem seem awfully similar to mine when I had my short extension. But I'm set with a right stick mounted pretty high kinda similar to the F-16 and you're not. I have nothing in between my legs. Errrr, thats what she said. (?)

Here's my 2c on it. Zero curves and seat time needed if you really want to learn it. Drop the stick extension. I tried it in the Viper and boy was it a pain. I couldn't fly it. That was with only 6cm extension!! The extension is basically what makes it sluggish for you, and I cant imagine how difficult it must be with a loooong 20cm extension at that, because the FBW and computer in the Viper IS trying to hold the jet steady at all times. I think they have that modelled very good. But that's when you're inside of fine adjusting stick movements and with your 20cm extension I can imagine it does get sluggish and inaccurate for you when you introduce curves as well. Especially negative curves, which only serves to play to your FLCS computers wishes of holding it steady. So to better simulate the force sensing Viper stick I would suggest the shortest stick possible to make the movements as small as possible while that also introduce the most input to your flight computer. If that makes any sense. Think of the F-16 flight computer and FBW system as driving around with constant autopilot, because basically that's what it is. To overcome it, you need to tell it. Hard. Example: I just did some AAR refueling first time practice in the Hornet yesterday and set my curves to 0, well because I only really know the F-16, and boy did I PIO the crap outta that plane. Set curves to 15 for the Hornet and hit the basket on first try with no disco. With the Viper I cannot use curves at all. No change getting that boom connected for any period without disco.

You know, I tried the Tomcat for a few fly outs and I really really really like the flight controls. Even trapped on the boat on first try, meatballs be damned. It really is a man machine type of bird. But then jumped back into the Viper and just adapted to the FBW again. Once you get used to delegating "some" of your control to the computer and realize that the F-16 will always try to keep you at 1G and stuff like that, it becomes much easier to flick it around like you're in an air show. The more this thread evolves the harder it is to pick a "second love" tbh. Now I'm sitting in a Hornet trying to learn THAT thing. The F15E to me feels mushy but as mentioned already, it's not done yet. If I may suggest, and if you have curves set up on your Viper inputs, don't. Keep it all linear. Only put as much deadzone you need to correct off center inputs from your HOTAS.

That scenario is because the F15 isnt ready yet. I'm not even bothering with the F15 right now. Even when both have datalink it's the radar thats going to be the deciding factor outside of a merge.

Regarding Link16, it's not all hallelujah IMO. I use it mainly for tactical <profanity> and locating wing members. What do you do when a server dont have AWACS? I bet the Mudhen radar and IFF will be more than sufficient in a few updates and nobody should really miss datalink then.

Riddle me this: In my first love, I always take off on mil power unless the runway is very short, regardless of loadout.

As he was talking about handling and all that stuff I assumed he meant it as it is today. But sure, for taking loads of stuff and destroy small towns, F-15 all the way. BVR also should be a no contest when it's closer to finished. I like it. Going to be my second love probably. But not as an early access bird.

F15E is still early access and will probably see a butt load of changes and fixes before a full release. Too early to even compare the two IMO.

It doesnt matter. Fact is tho, MLU program started 1995 and last delivery was fitted at Kjeller in 2000. Total of 56 F-16 airframes recieved the MLU between 1995 and 2000. F-16A Block 15 #674 was one of the newest airframes and it was sent to Balkan for Operation Allied Force, with 5 other RNoAF F-16s in 1999. What do YOU think? Would you send Vipers that didn't have AMRAAM capabilities to war when you have several brand spanking new MLU fitted ones sitting in the hangar? There's no they here. It was one sentence on one website that claimed MLU upgraded F-16's didn't deploy to Balkan. I beg to differ. Could be wrong of course but fighter pilot training aint cheap and I don't think any airforce or defence ministry would risk all that money go to waste by sending less capable airframes to war when they had capable airframes on active duty for the past 4 years. Putting 2 and 2 together with that picture of 674 leaving a tanker from a refueling wing that also deployed to Balkan airspace in 1999, my brain says MLU Vipers were there. Now, here's the kicker: Maybe not ALL SIX were MLU fitted f-16s. Now that would be an ok tactic if wing leads had the AMRAAMs and wingmen didnt.

That picture I posted is literally from above former Yugoslavia 5th of May 1999. The tanker is a KC135R of the 22nd Air Refueling Wing, McConnell Air Force Base, Kansas. You don't send Fox 2 capable only Vipers to an international NATO Operation doing CAP, sweeps and escorts for over 7-8 hours per sortie when you have MLU aircrafts ready to go. The RNoAF MLU program started in 1995. But I get it, you want to be right. So you're right.

They had AIM120's. But the F-16A they employed had IFF system limitations so they had to use different tactics. The pic shows one of the RNoAF F-16A leaving a KC135 during the Balkan war. Sorry, just a Viper fan here. I get interested whenever people talk about RNoAF Vipers. lol Looking hard at learning a second plane tho, and the M2000 is super interesting.

Shame the wing breaking is still there. It's a neat fighter and great fun but tbh the wings breaking turned me away from it. It is obvious it's not even close to being realistic. I agree 100% no air force would use that jet if the wings were that brittle in real life. USAF sure as hell wouldnt still be using it for red air.

After I made the wingless supersonic and then landing video I haven't touched the F5. Is it still breakey wingy?

ECM pods, short or long, is a crap shoot for me. As a noise generator it works best for me. Step 1 & 2 to break the lock from a SAM works 50% of the time and it depends almost entirely what search radar has you locked. But for SEAD I can't wait to drag the ALN 50 Towed Decoy. They saved lives during Iraq 1 & 2. They are proven to work. ECM pods I assume is harder to find documentation on "effectiveness" as it's harder to analyze what actually made the missile fail to hit the jet. Towed decoys you know worked if they're gone.