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Im using the high detail preset with VSYNC off. Same test I did last year when I built this machine VS the 2500K. There was a change with either GFX or CPU change. Hope to show this tomorrow when I finish benchmarking the 2700X. Im done with the 1700X and will be deactivating DCS modules now, as Im about the change the CPU's.

Currently benchmarking DCS with the old CPU with last years benchmark track I used to compare with my older 2500K. I already found out something interesting: 1-I have observed 99% GPU usage, so you CAN max out the 1080Ti with the 1000 series of Ryzen processors, so no bottlneck in this CPU (I have read otherwise by multiple reviewers) at least not with DCS. 2-I have seen the CPU usage highs of 44%-50% (most times drops to 14%-30%). Thats the equivalent or almost 8 full cores used with another 8 available.

Im keeping my board. Reports are in that changing the boards does nearly nothing for you unless you want the new storage caching system (basically merges your SSD's and HDD's into one virtual unit, similar what Intel does for optane). people are running 3466MHZ RAM where before they would 3200, just by changing the CPU alone but I am using 4 sticks instead of 2 so well see how it pans out. YSMXbbw2B8Y

I have an I7 skylake machine at work and I notice how its response times are so inconsistent with 1 core load or multi cores load and tries to boost or downclock to match. My R7 has all power instantly available feels so much smoother and responsive. My R7 crushes the I7 in heavy excell calculations too (8 VS 4 cores). I will lock my 2700X (will pick it up tomorrow) at 4.15 or 4.2 GHZ on all cores and call it a day.

ooph, 8K... LOL :eek: Maybe when multi-GPU (not SLI) in vulkan and DX12 are a thing and adopted by the industry. I dont see any single card handle that at an acceptable performance level. The 11 series Geforces are not going to double in performance (so to speak because the increase in pixels is quadratic). They will be more akin of a refresh with a modest improvement. AMD GPU's have not kicked NVIDIA's pants like their CPU's division did to Intel, so NVIDIA is milking the most out of us for the smallest investment possible.

the AMD chips probably not going to match a 8700K in single thread still, however: DCS used to be pegged at the CPU in single thread but this is no longer the case as the games objects have been offloaded to the GPU. Between the R5 2600 and the Intel 8700K I would go for the former if that allows me to to buy a bigger GPU with the leftover cash. The AMD barebones of MOBO+CPU is MUCH cheaper. Willing to bet R5+1080Ti > 8700K+1080. If you can afford both the Intel 8700K and the 1080Ti thats a no brainer. Go ahead.

Just a taste of 2700X IPC improvment (tested locked @ 4Ghz) source:

Oh man RIP.:( YlyNiXPA47M Note: I skipped Full metal jacked due to excess saltiness for this forum.

1991 Gulf war, they used multiple carriers.And again in 2003 invasion. It's risky to use them there due to how easy it is for anyone mount shore based missiles, attack by land based fighters (One US frigate got hit by an Exocet in 1991) or zerg rush the carrier group with fast smaller boats, but the upside is that opposing submarines will have a hard time too.

less and less games will use SLI, however they want to go for multi GPU now (doesn't use the bridge and you could use any 2 GFX even from different brands) but that is a couple of years in the future at least untill the new API's DX12 and Vulkan are widely adopted by the gaming indiustry. Not sure if DCS conversion to Vulkan will immediately enable that or not.

Convenient to mention: thats liquid Nitrogen, Not for 24/7 use.

Pre-ordered it. :)

It was never gone, just dorment. Sometimes I dislike to even visit Youtube and the internet in general. It's a snakes nest of fearmongering, more than the usual.

There's news today that Russia was warned beforehand where and when the strikes would occur and they did not interfere. In fact it seems they are trying not to get involved at all. Not even a vocal statement of the head of state about it. Just written formal declarations.

Went to the store and they confessed I was incorrectly notified my order had arrived. Next thrusday will be the day. Damn. I thought they would sell me one early. Anyway I can take advantage of the time to start benching my original CPU.

RIP :(

welcome to the dark side :D

I will be keeping my current motherboard (see sig for full specs) and will try capitalize on the better memory controller from the new chip and my ultra fast 4266 Mhz RAM Kits (yes I know I wont hit nearly that mark). I hope 3600Mhz can be achieved. Anyway, I already got word from the store 5 minutes after preorder that my chip can be picked up. So in the morning Ill be fetching it. Will spend the afternoon making a bunch of benchmarks along with DCS and will post the results here. Lets how the faster memory speeds and lower latency works out for DCS. Tests to be conducted: DCS Mechwarrior online Star Citizen Alpha 3.1 3D mark Cinebench R15 AIDA 64 UPDATE: Test Setup: Ryzen 1700X @3.9Ghz +32GB RAM 3200 CL16 CR=2T Ryzen 2700X @4.2Ghz+32GB RAM 3600 CL16 CR=1T (maximum achievable overclocks for 24/7 operation) GFX = MSI 1080Ti Gaming X @ Stock for both configurations. I used DCS high preset with Vsync off and 1440P resolution (I did this because is what most people will do with this hardware). Conclusions: It was DAMN HARD to get consistent results. Specially Star Citizen and MWO. For DCS I discovered the bottleneck shifts between the CPU and GPU depending on the number of objects being displayed. When Las Vegas buildings show up in high numbers its the GPU the limiting factor (99% usage) hence the low difference between the 2 CPU's. Whoever when in sparsely populated areas the CPU kicks in. Minimum FPS went up 16% but maximum was the same, average only changed 2%. Game experience improved due to higher minimums. CPU usage in DCS shifts between 13% and 44% (this means between 2 to 7 fully utilized threads). The GPU can reach 100% usage regardless of the CPU load (not expected). So Ryzen CPU's do not Bottleneck the 1080Ti in DCS. Star citizen and MWO lack optimization. MWO has the GPU at 55% while CPU was at 15%. It was extremely hard to get to similar multiplayer sessions to compare (same map in victory conditions so I could measure the full length of the session taking data). The game appears to MASSIVELY benefit from higher lows and average FPS uplifts but I cannot say if the values presented here are accurate. It does feel better. On the other hand there is alot of untapped power not being harnessed by the games engine. Star Citizen sees CPU usage 36% in flight and 31% in first person mode. GPU was locked at max most of the time. I used Port Olisar in a private session and walked around to the landing pad and recorded FPS. Vanduul Swarm was recorded by maneuvering the ship around in the broken moon map until fighting starts. The change in CPU has modest benefits but then again the game is not even close to being optimized.

1 year ago I tested the 2500K VS R7 1700X and then pitted my old GTX 970 VS a new 1080 TI (guess who won) on the AMD CPU. Here's the results: But because my 1700X bottlenecks the 1080Ti a bit, tomorrow I will be testing DCS with a spanking new Ryzen 2700X. Stay tuned.

I want to not to find out.

Best defense against cruise missiles is mobility of assets. Also, dont think it will happen. why? We cant discuss politics but I suspect this is just theatrics to impress the masses and for some politicians keeping their jobs.

ooph RIP :(

yeah, the radar scope is between your knees in the F-16A. Do you want to look down all the time?

Yes, Ssd's make a difference by eliminating the stuttering

I had a vertex 3 (same controller and NAND) that I owned for 7 years and its still rocking in my sisters PC. Unless you see problems developing (there are dignostic tools from the manufacturer) you shouldnt worry or need to change SSD. There wont be a massive boost in performance or reason to upgrade unless what your seeking is more space. Note, this is for SATA. For NVME upgrade I would go Intels 900P OPTANE wich is MUCH faster in random access with small files and the only worthy upgrade right now IMHO, or else stay put. (I got 960 EVO because intels were not out yet back then).