TucksonSonny

I was referring to S-400 with I/AR guidance.

You too can read my answer again smart boy!:harhar:

GG, Let me explain it in a more simply way for you… “If you would put the AL-41 F’s in the F-22 it would cruise at Mach 1.9 without AB” You see, me too I can answer a question without having any respect for the integrity for the person!

Except when it would go up against some 3th world country I think that the F-22 is very vulnerable against IR AAA systems. At 50000ft the temp is about -70°C. The 22's IR signature would light up like a Christmas tree.

I don’t think so! :bye: The Pratt & Whitney F119-PW-100 (F/A-22) engine is rated at about 35000 lb (156 kN). The Saturn AL-41 F (prototype) engine is rated at about 176 kN (39,575 lb).

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Can you already imagine the fun online when you are hiding in the city with your Ka-50 (hanging between a couple of apartment buildings in the city) and attacking a Hog or even a fighter jet (passing over the city at low altitude) with your IR missiles. :thumbup: Of course Igla’s will be a real pain…:helpsmilie:

I am very sorry only f-22 nut-drivers in here! PS. That is not with me included!

You get the typical answers (we don’t take any criticism in here) as usual in this forum (a lot of f-22 nut-drivers too) A better question would be: “Why an 8 year old sim like Falcon 4 SP4/FF3/Cobra (whatever version) have electronic warfare aircrafts and why LockOn Modern Air Combat do not have any? “ BTW, It would be very easy to disable them with online missions.

How about the FAG-35? :pilotfly: :megalol:

I did also read all this fancy stuff about the 22 too but I am still not convinced that at the end of the engagement the 22 would have scored more than 5 kills. My point is at the end of the engagement you look at 6 kills (1x22 and 5xSu) with 1 Su going home! (Outnumbered) BTW, I was already reading technical articles about HOJ since the beginning of my falcon period (read 1999! Believe me I know a lot about HOJ and jamming! About RWR I will talk later. BTW, It is 22:25 in Belgium! Good night!

In 1 versus 6 situations bandits will split! Is that OK with you?

Ooh, now you are throwing in a B52 in our 6 versus 1 engagement (still don’t believe that the 22 will do his job). 1) About the 22: it has a huge powerful jammer! Nice bait for HOJ. 2) Stealth for the 22 means only that you can’t lock on it close before visual range but bandits do know where it is. 3) R-77 HOJ is not that crap like it is modeled in FC 1.12a and 48x HOJ launch (8x6 bandits) will have a chance to hit once. 4) Like I said before the bandits will not approach together 5) The first bandit will turn and just outrun your first 120 (Oops already 1 is gone, do I have to continue)

A 120 kill ratio of 6/0 is what you call realism? BTW, If the 22 put his radar on and opens his door bays for firing the 120’s then it is vulnerable to HOJ or not? (And Yes the 22 will use his jammer to cover this action) BTW, With 6 bandits you have: 1 on your 6 1 on your 8 1 on your 10 1 on your 12 1 on your 2 1 on your 4

Uuh, 4 F-15C and 4 F-16 sitting around with AMRAAMs .. not to mention F-35's! Do I feel somehow that you somehow have not the confidence that the F-22 will do his job maybe? Do you think that 6 fighter jets will wait 1 for 1 together for being killed? Of course not, the first will play bait (with radar on), the other 5 will sneak/ lurk and search for your six with datalink on and radar off fire HOJ and ET’s (the F-22 his worst nightmare). BTW In RL you can not cry kind of like that superbug was not following the rules of engagements.

Do you really think that an export fighter jet is the most powerful Russian fighter? Do you realize that a downgrade was done with the engines and radar range and also on the export R-77 version?

Did I confuse you somehow? :beer:

He he he: you can’t forbid me to fly with number 04 (Anyway with standard 1.12a loadout) :megalol:

Our famous Su-27S serial number 04 does not exist anymore in RL and it became the Su-27SM S/N 04 with 1 R-77 loaded on the inner pylons (see picture). I know that ED modelled the Su-27S but my point is RL is not Su-27S anymore! I have problems with the RL word that is all. What if people fly with number 04? Ok, just joking! :)

Do you realize that the Su-27S went through an upgrade program (kind of one like F-16A MLU getting AIM-9X)? Not that I am trying to cheat (I would never do that) but this thread is showing that you guy’s are NOT sure of one's ground. Anyway the loadout list is a solution but is complicated (people will turn up with mods).

Taking into account that ED is trying to reflect RL situation as best as they can with the latest version which is 1.12a. BTW, if I can find RL proof of R-77’s loaded on the Su-27 can I load them on the 504th server? I guess that a print screen (not Photoshop edited) is proof! :beer:

Conclusion: Whatever the loadout is, if it is not a standard 1.12a loadout it is CHEATING! :pirate:

Falcon 4.02?:D

Anyway we just entered a new era where each year a new nuclear power sees the light. Guess who did start this chain reaction? ->Israel,India->? China->? Holland<-->Pakistan<->N. Korea ->Iran->Syria-> ->Saudi Arabia? :bomb: OT: Looks like future air forces will have a lot of work to clean up all the future nuke launcher sites. From a documentary on TV I learn that about 4000 air strikes are necessary to wipe out (to burn through) the under ground bunker facilities with nuclear centrifuges in Iran. Anyway my point is that you can’t do this with UCAV’s.