Aginor

yay!

My opinion on this: - AI sucks. All AI in DCSW sucks. BIG TIME. It can only handle planes with a lot of engine power. Turn and burn FTW. - Comparing AI against each other in DCSW is pointless, unfortunately, because even AI F-15C lose against WW2 planes in a gun fight. - Fighting human against AI doesn't work either. The flight models the AI uses are SO wrong. They do maneuvers you cannot do, they don't overheat their engines and so on. Sucks. It is not THAT bad in modern planes, but the WW2 planes? Nope. - In the real world those planes were not the common match. There were not many K4s in real life. They were vastly outnumbered and many of them were flown by young pilots who had no experience. No wonder they got their asses kicked big time. - when looking at the performance keep in mind that in real life nobody flies with full fuel. the P51 is a long range fighter with LOADS of fuel. I is meant to fight with 50% or so, while the German planes will have a short way to get to the fight. I typically fly the P51 with 30% fuel if I want to do aerobatics or fight. IIRC it still has more range than the 109 then. Is the P51 not completely realistic? Maybe not. I can't tell. There seems to be something fishy in NTTR, perhaps a different atmosphere model or something? I don't know. To me it felt fine climbing to 30,000ft over the caucasus (back in 1.2.x I don't fly the P51 much to be honest).

Haha, fun thread! I didn't remember, but actually the first thing I ever bought via Amazon was DCS:Black Shark on the 8th of January 2011, together with a Bluegrass CD and an elastic capo for my banjo. :D

Kinda like a mouse wheel ? Cool. :)

Ohhh, good idea! A pre-release of the manual would be VERY cool. :)

Yeah, I think many people don't realize that when talking about topics like F-14 vs. F/A-18 A-6 vs. F/A-18, even F-4 vs. F/A-18 and so on. The great thing about the Hornet is not that it is better than all of them in their specific roles, but that it is _good enough_ in everything they did. And not having to train people on all those different planes and not having to have maintenance for all those different aircraft is a huge advantage. I am STILL looking forward to all those "old" planes as well. :)

Hmmm.... Actually for some purposes I would love to have at least airfields there. No need for cities or such things, but a bit of infrastructure would be cool to have realistic distances for longer distance missions. That being said: More maps, bigger maps, I'm all for it! :)

No, it isn't that bad. The beam itself looks like a baseball bat (thick end towards the target) which is spinning and covering ten degrees in height and width. So a target may well be covered by more than one scan line. Considering that, this pattern isn't bad at all! It has a good average coverage of the central area. where the plane is facing. Look at this: http://www.mig-21-online.de/Funkmessvisier/Bilder/Bild_20.jpg EDIT: I just noticed you were talking about the radar of the MiG in DCSW, WildBillKelsoe. Yes, in DCSW right now there is a bug that is going to be fixed.

Thx from me as well! :)

If I understood correctly it would look like the attached picture. Just follow the numbers. The three bars are each 8 degrees high and 30 degrees wide.

I think there might also be something wrong with the lock warning, I am not sure and did not have the time to reproduce yet I was fighting a AI MiG-21 in the most recent OpenBeta (identical to the rlease one now) on saturday, and after shooting a R3R at me head on, when we both were starting to turn to face each other again I constantly heard a lock warning tone although the MiG was pointing away from me. I am almost sure it wasn't a overG tone and I think I also had it on the RWR. I tried to save the track but it didn't work because tracks are broken. But I looked out of the window and saw the MiG flying not into my direction. Perhaps there is something wrong with the "refresh rate" of the RWR, that could explain hearing a tone too late (probably never) or for too long.

I think it is just for the alliteration.

I admit I may be too pessimistic based on my experience concerning multicrew, I really hope y'all are right. In fact I would be VERY happy to be wrong. :)

@OneBlueSky Sure, me too. I think DCSW has to have multi-crewed planes. Great working multicrewed jets will be loads of fun. The point is just that it might be development-wise better to first get the other stuff under control (by creating another plane that makes use of those) so with the A-6 project they can focus on the aspects that make this plane particularly hard. Leatherneck did exactly that. They created a supersonic jet with A2A radar, guided weapons, and complex systems. They had a lot of stuff to learn and fix. Now they know how it works. So now they add swept wing and multicrew. And yes, the Jester AI (or something similar by another developer) might be just the solution we need. I just.... let's say if it really works that way I will be very surprised. Writing AI is a very complex task. EDIT@Tirak: I played BF2 and several MMOs and DCSW for years and the random players never joined TS. :D Maybe times have changed. :)

I think Darkwolf just meant to say that most 3rd parties have had some problems in their past or still have one, so to say Aviodev is doing a much worse job than others may not be a fair statement.

What I don't get about parts of the discussion: This isn't (eh... or shouldn't be) about preference. At least not only. Why should take Razbam the extreme risk of doing a multi-crewed jet first when another, similarly capable and in many points similarly equipped (technology-wise) single-crewed jet can be done first? I also think an A-6 might actually not be as much fun in DCSW as it might seem: - Flying SP as a B/N with an AI pilot: ARRR!! **** Why U fly so bad?! - Flying SP as a Pilot: *** dammit AI! Why U bomb so bad??! ==> People complaining in the forums about module being useless in singleplayer - Flying in MP as a B/N: Spamming "Need A-6 pilot" in the chat, finally finding a pilot, bad communication because nobody wants to use TS, it sucks. Then finding a pilot who is a troll and flies directly into the ground, shouting "OLOLOLOL". Then finding another pilot, who sucks so badly you can't hit anything, and then complains you are a bad B/N. Rage quits, and since you can't control the plane you have to eject or crash. - Flying in MP as a Pilot: Spamming "Need A-6 B/N" in the chat, finally finding one. Communication see above. He doesn't hit anything, claiming you are at fault. Rage quits. You find another, that one ejects as soon as you run out of ammo because "***NOOB, noOne flyZ back when winchester." - flying MP as a pilot or B/N, switching seats so you can play effectively. Sucks, neither realistic nor fun. All groups above hate you. - flying MP as a pilot or B/N with AI in the other seat: Either the AI is good, so people hate you and nobody finds someone to fly with ever, OR the AI is bad, which leads to constant complaining and/or the other cases above. Only solution is to fly in a squadron, which most people don't do. So they will complain that "Razbam is the devil out to destroy DCSW" because they produced an iconic plane that you can only have fun in if you are one of the small percentage of an already small community who flies only MP and only with squad mates. Also this whole post will probably apply to Leatherneck's F-14 as well. And that's why IMHO A-7 should come before A-6, even though the A-6 might be the cooler plane. Solve the problems one at a time and let us fly something cool in the meantime. :)

Of course having all of them is best, that goes without saying! :)

+1 this mod is a MUST. And I'll borrow an often-heard phrase from the KSP community: "Should be stock." :)

Same here, I'd even prefer it over the Harrier. Of course I understand why they postponed it, still.... Such a cool plane. :)

Well, I wouldn't exactly use the word "happy", but it would be much better than nothing.

I thought it would be 1. Mirage 2. Harrier 3. Tucano (maybe parallel to Harrier?) 4. Other Harrier (EDIT: Dunno how complex it would be to make the second one out of the first one) 5. A-7 6. F-15E 7. A-6 (maybe before F-15E, that one is extremely complex so there might be problems) So if they really manage to produce two planes a year (that would be.... wow!) we would have a list for the next three years.

Belsimtek is not a 3rd party, but a ED partner. They have a closer cooperation. Razbam is more experienced with modeling and so on, also they probably started the important stuff after the changes that were game-breaking for VEAO and Aviodev. So I am not sure if we can compare those. (EDIT: Also I am not sure if we are allowed to have this discussion here, just saying. I don't want to anger anyone.)

That's why I wrote "basically". I meant that Leatherneck gave them keys for the module even though they didn't have the money. AFAIK the physical stuff was not delivered. Anyway, that's not the topic of the thread, which is why I don't want to elaborate on that further if you agree. It was a dark age of DCSW and I am glad that at least we got something out of that project at all.

Maybe. Actually we don't really know what happened there. But since in the end all the backers basically got what they pledged for I guess we can leave that one as some obscure thing that happened in the past. Whatever. The stuff he did before that point was really awesome, including some ground objects pack. He did loads of stuff as a modder, and I really miss his inputs. But hey, we have so many other talented modders to do such things, like Ranger79, Lilkiki, upuaut, Markindel and some more. If something is possible in DCSW it gets done. ....which leads back to the original problem. Some stuff is just not possible at the moment. ED needs to create the "framework" to do so.

Definitely! It is good that they bring a few more news now.