jay43

Not true. You'll lose airspeed in the turn. So what you say here totally contradicts everything our instructor has told me in the above post by me so if you are and if you are that good come and join us at http://1stcavdiv.conceptbb.com/

I don't think he is being rude I like a good debate even if it does get heated aslong as no one starts with vulgarity its ok.

US army video link I posted plus Huey manuals and literature I have says it is measured by the swash plates so you are right and all of the official documentation is wrong Hmmmm.

This is how its done from a real pilot/instructor in our group Flyer knows his stuff. To answer your question It’s important to know how the collective and torque meter works in relation to a turn, The collective lever, located on the left side of the pilots seat is use to increase or decrease the altitude of the aircraft. The collective is mechanically linked to the swash plate, located above the transmission on the rotor system mast. There are two part of the swash plate. The upper and lower swash plates. The upper part moves with the rotation of main rotor system, while the lower part remains stationary. When you apply collective, a series of push pull tubes translate this movement to the main rotor blades through the swash plates. The pressure applied is called “torque”. At the beginning of a flight, all helicopters are required to do a “Hover Power” check. To do this, the helicopter is pick-up to a height of five feet and turn to the direction of take-off. When you stabilize the aircraft, in the direction of take-off, look at your torque meter. The value that you see is the value that you will use to fly the aircraft. It is important to know this number because all flight dynamics are calculated off of it. We’ll call it your “Base” reading. For instance if you read 35 psi, that will be the torque setting to fly straight and level at 90 kts. (the normal cruise for a UH-1H), If you want to increase altitude you would add approximately 5 psi to you “base”. This 35 psi reading would give you a 500 feet per minute increase in altitude while maintaining 90 Kts. If you wanted to decrease you altitude you would subtract 5 psi. This will give you a 500 feet per minute decent at 90 Kts. Remember the above numbers because they work with the DCS UH-1H. I bring this to your attention because the use of the collective (and anti-torque rotor) is not necessary in a standard turn. Most pilots new to helicopter flying believe that it is necessary to pull in collective and apply pedals in the direction of the turn as they make a turn. This is not true. Now to your question. When making a standard turn, you have already set you “Base” torque reading (probably around 35 psi). You don’t need to apply collective or anti-torque pedals. Make your turn by banking no more than 10 degree’s, left or right, while maintaining your attitude (your pitch). You should try to keep the wings on your attitude indicator (the large instrument with the wings) on the horizon line. Watch your altitude indicator and keep your attitude level (don’t pitch over or pull back ). It’s important to say at this point…Don’t pump the collective…set it and leave it alone, make only small adjustment to increase or decrease your altitude. Once you have your “Hover Power” torque set, don’t touch the collective…if you pump your collective…your using poor helicopter technique. If you practice doing these procedures, you will turn at a consistent rate of speed and a constant altitude. It takes practice but once you see how to put it all together, it will become second nature.

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Wrong watch it again in slow motion this time you can clearly see as the blades come off one remains attached and that's the one that strikes the boom before it to flys off.

I would suggest if you want to learn more from real Huey and other helicopter pilots you join us at http://1stcavdiv.conceptbb.com/ Reading whats being said here just makes me chuckle all this talk of physics and what not really come on. You are already defying the laws of physics by flying and flying something that has silly little thin blades with an enormous body its completely defying the laws. Due to Newton’s Laws of gravity: “For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction”. In the helicopter this is called the “Torque Effect”. This why you need to use left pedal but mostly for take off and hover or slow speed flight the faster you go the less pedal you need. I would suggest that those that think its a good idea to pull on the cyclic after they have rolled over try doing an autorotation landing and pull back on the cyclic to see how long it is before its all over.

Ok so please explain how you would perform a turn then. To follow I have asked our instructor pilot to explain the correct turning procedure, he has over 2000hrs in the Huey and a lot more in the UH-64.

Flying and turning a helicopter is totally different from a fixed wing aircraft it is by no means the same not even forward flight. When making turns you have to be aware of unloading the blades as they are what provides lift and thrust, unnecessary unloading of the blades will result in mast bumping causing a catastrophic separation of the rotors from the mast. Everything you learnt about flying fixed wing is not applied the same in a helicopter. For example you approaching a hill and need to climb in fixed wing this is achieved by a slight increase in throttle together with a slight pull back on the stick. That example can not be applied to a helicopter forward flight requires the cyclic to be pushed forward so the rotor can pull you along do that in a fixed wing and you are going down to the ground so its clearly nothing like fixed wing. To get over the hill you would think pull on the cyclic wrong that unloads the blades and can cause mast bumping and will reduce your forward speed resulting in loss of lift. There are to many variables to go into in a post or topic this video will help those that think flying a helicopter is the same as flying a fixed aircraft clearly showing it is not as released by the USarmy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nm8iV_uiBsI&feature=fvwrel&nomobile=1 I would suggest watching it a few times so you fully understand whats going on.

Yes a CV joint gaitor is the same seen here http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/431368.jpg&imgrefurl=http://forums.bit-tech.net/showthread.php?t%3D214984&h=599&w=800&sz=145&tbnid=At6PLruxQSp2aM:&tbnh=90&tbnw=120&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dcv%2Bjoint%2Bgaiter%26tbm%3Disch%26tbo%3Du&zoom=1&q=cv+joint+gaiter&usg=__8kKgqkJeGYEBAzsK110zyOEEs6s=&docid=V74XOSmIEfN5_M&sa=X&ei=Rh75UaapCKaW0AWw2oDgCw&sqi=2&ved=0CHAQ9QEwBw&dur=8100 You just have to find the right diameter for the base but it will add tension to the throw of the stick and its rigidity may render the springs inoperative.

That is needed i'm using the windows touch app at the mo and although it works to some degree its a bit hit and miss I can flick switches and push buttons but twisting dial is difficult plus it takes an uber amount of steadiness in your arm and head to hold position for long enough to activate said switch.

It is right click it with mouse to flick switch up to reset or just press R

Theres 11 wires that run up the middle of that shaft from the buttons, down in the base they are just plugged in it might just have came unplugged from the PCB or 1 of the wires might have snapped they are ever so thin. If I gave you the shaft you would have to cut your wires to get the shafts changed over looks to me like that was fed through the shaft then soldered to the PCB's in the grip, if none of the buttons work or the lights could be the ground or the live that's come adrift. Have you opened it up and checked inside worth it I think you're going to have to replace it anyway and if you can for just a few coppers happy days.

I would've thought that off powers it down for re-arming safe is safe but on and armed well obvious that one. I have tried re-arming with weapons in safe and GC won't touch it until its in the off position then they get to work.

I think I know the piece you mean if you can take a pic I can compare it to my left overs and hey hoe if I have the piece you need then you just have to cover postage and any taxes your end and you can have it I personally don't want any money for it. Just seems a shame that I probably have the piece and its just sitting there gathering dust.

Agreed these stutters are annoying to say the least especially when flying the Huey and you are trying to land and you are already on the edge of going into VRS get any amount of stutter there and is balls of fire landings.

Thanks Kuky that gives me a better idea as to whats going on my end and how to better improve it. Sorry Bandit we seem to have hijacked your thread.

Ah I see and yours in the non pro is it cause all the pieces I have like what you are saying that have broke in my pro the shaft is metal right in the centre of it.

I see interesting so If I understand this correctly my set up would be Nvidia 690GTX multi Gpu enabled running Samsung MD230x3 in surround mode, set in DCS to 1 Camera, Resolution 5920 x 1080.

Just been using it in the Huey and it works fine for some things using windows touch app the overhead light dials turn easily certain switches can be turned on or off however to scroll is slightly difficult on the ADF to tune frequency, I think with a better app this will be an awesome addition to DCS.

Why are you wrestling with wires have you done the wireless mod for the track ir its very easy just unplug everything cut the wire from the pro clip theres only 2 in there black and red live and neg now just find a 5v battery and connect it up simples that's how I done it. And just plug the camera back in on its own remove the usb wire that went to the clip it only carries power to the lights no data at all.

What part is broken I have some spares for an x52pro stick only within the base though stick grip has been taken off to turn into a collective. Basically looking at it I have all of the base except the grip and the pcb from inside but the pots are there as I don't need those anymore so all the mechanical moving parts.

Cool I didn't even know that I take back what I said then does it work can you use it in DCS.

If its not announced then it wasn't in the update this is whats called it just clicked with you. If you were crashing a lot before and now you're not then placebo you just got better but didn't notice it just suddenly your muscle memory clicked.