Kev2go

yes hopefully ED delays in releasing the next patch having nothing to do with the corona virus. P.S besides right now is not a good time to be spending on modules anyways. wanna save your money, for the obvious price hike we can expect due to the recent Toilet paper crisis. Ih hear the new fear index..... is in the toilet! its understandable, no one wants to be isolated at home only to have nothing to wipe themselves with after a trip to the potty. Now that would make for a good horror flick! Toilet paper > non perishable food. AMIRITE!?

And? In a certain case the higher price tag for a non partner nation, still came lower than projected to another competitors. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-aerospace-belgium/belgium-picks-lockheeds-f-35-over-eurofighter-on-price-idUSKCN1MZ1S0

How is rambling on and obsessing about about cost overruns of the projects development pertinent to how this aircraft is going to or not going to be in DCS?

Not to mention you need even better hardware. I heard people with 2080s complain the still need to lower some settings to get better fps.

Except that the f14 never got a substantial upgrade until the f14d. F14a is only a few years apart from the f16 by initial service dates but was designed around 1960s technology, whereas the rest of the teen series were based around utilizing the best available technology during thier development, furthermore being lucky to in a timeframe where the digital revolution was happening. Whereas f14 production ceases by 1990, f16 is still produced to date. Further more f14 did not get a significant upgrade until the f14d, whereas f16 and other teen series got continual upgrades ever few production lock furthers by regualr intervals continual power production upgrades. This really shows when comparing the hornet and viper. So I disagree the analogy of an old woman still stands. The tomcat didnt age gracefully. Edit: Also to note And f16 phase is only really happening with the usaf, and it's very slow gradual process. The ang will still be expected to be rocking vipers for decades to come, and are already investing $$ for modernization to include aesa radars. The ang in the past have and still have deployment overseas, so it's not like the f16s will just fly around in circles stateside, and never have any further potential to see combat use.

People seem to forget how long link 16 development and implentation took. Jtids was expected to go operational by the late 80s immediately after f15c's msip 2 upgrades. Rebranded under link 16/mids which essentially took until the 21st century before any fighter were using it operationally., never minding standardizing it upon NATO and making further refinements. Already link 16 is deemed dated, not just from a gen 5 perspective, but even from its generatio it is realized that even last gen fighters need more a modern follow up to link 16.

There is no skewing anything. You just used dated price listings. People make the same mistaking citing 18 mil pricetag on the f16c. This was the same old bs arguments and criticisms brought up any time a new mission platform comes online. " But but x aircraft that just came about is more expensive and has had developmental issues, and does not have same xombat readiness than ( now dated) y aircraft that is 30+ years mission proven." Like with the f15. People seem to forget the f15 today is not the same old daddy's f15a. that went off the production line in 76 with pre PSP apg 63 radar. Just as the hornet program going into the 80s. So the story with f35 is just history repeating itself but in the information age. The fm had the same stance and lost any shred credibility long ago. F35 is currently combat ready platform. And an excellent one at that. It's still arguably the most successful gen 5 multi-role fighter, especially if you try to find any other foreign aircraft program remotely in the same class as the f35. But hey old memes never die, and some will only ever obsess and keep rambling on about the negatives at every chance they get.

Few years ago. Perhaps Now its only 78 - 115 million.

IF F35 ever comes to DCS they certainly won't be the first to make a combat capable study level simulation of the F35 on the consumer market. #India Foxtrot Echo.

I did come across this TV film

bu bu but its not immortalized by an overrated film like the kitty kat is ((((

its not necessary i think they know that its just one of the many other reasons why F/A18F block 3 cant seriously compete with the F35, despite their marketing teams best efforts in the past :megalol:

The Hornet that is being simulated ( Circa 2005) already had AN/APG73 phase 2 radar by that point. IT has medium resolution SAR with up to EXP 3. This was also the same radar fitted to F/A18E/F super Hornets within Block 1 series production ( lots 21-25) and even until early block 2 production lots, before APG79 AESA radar was ready for operational use. APG73 phase 2 > APG68 V5 ( both a2a and a2g). It will be the Viper not the Hornet with its older radar that will be limited with A/G mapping to DBS2 for EXP2. Apparently only export users have had Vipers APG68 upgraded to V9 standards, which is the radar that would be considered comparable to the APG73 phase 2. Marine operated F/A18D's with ATARS pod work in conjunction with APG73 to improvements to offer even further improved High resolution grade SAR with additional levels of EXP

Even prior to JSF there were already really good A/G radars. DeHavilland DH-6 Twin-Otter ( used as test platform in 1999) https://apps.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a529750.pdf Lynx radar was since implemented and employed on MQ9 reaper

It has nothing do do with preferences. No it's just an honest analogy. The tomcats belongs ( and is) in a museum. Therefore if it's going compared to a woman ( which was initiated by another user) . It certainly cant be like the image above because, that would not be a human analogy of a museum piece. Saying mature is simply a more polite way of saying old. Something you want to do to not offend q person. In this case I didnt want to be to hard on fans of the tomcat which mind you specific groups can at times be even more sensitive in any criticisim of thier favourite waifu aircraft than women are about thier age. :smilewink:

Sorry but no. if the tomcat were a woman it would be " very mature" at best. Not a younger busty one.

heres another missing "legend"

Most brilliant proposed crossover in history amirite?

agreed! indeed "The fly a legend" slogan is seriously meme worthy at this point

Since F15 Aim9P/5 options it would be nice if the F14A got an older IR missile. I know the F14A that HB plan is going to be a mid 80s' model, but when the F14A first went into operational use it would have started out using Aim9H in first few years. This is at least something that was used within the tomcats service life so it would be viable enough of an option. it would make for interesting scenarios and give mission designers extra optional variety for a2a missiles, for extra challenge,

Ultimately using both together will be of great benefit. It doesn't have to be one over the other. In fact in such a presented example when you do see something in GMT mode thats exactly why you would then slew a TGP to a potential radar GMT contact to verify what you are indeed looking at is military vehicle, and if so a visual verification if it is friend or foe. That is unless adverse weather conditions obscuring a given TGP.

Nope I am not overestimating the radar, or implying its an all seeing eye, or the only relevant piece of technology on aircraft . Just appreciating it for the sensor it is, the exta tool in the toolbox, which you cannot seem want to do. Again same logic applies to anything. Tactics have been developed to counteract many things. Please stop talking down to others assuming what you think we visualize warfare like just because you have an ill appreciation for technology. Your childish rant truly is pointless and futile and entirely deriving off topic. An indication of your inability to see otherwise. But that is precisely why such surveillance options matter even than ever before more because warfare is no longer static. Boots on the ground reconnaissance alone can only do so much and go so far behind enemy lines, and the fact you need boots on the ground wars to win a typical conventional was never denied, but not all wars need boots on the ground. There are plenty of pure air campaigns from history that have managed to achieve both military and political objectives. SO you are wrong in assuming Ground army intervention is needed in every single case. You can continue to believe otherwise, but those in history who dont keep up with the pace of technological changes are the ones who will have a rude awakening ( IE static defenses and the Machine made cavalry charges, and Mass infantry march charges redundant) , just as in your ww1 example which yo seem to be so obsessed about. But hey maybe if your so obsessed with boots on the ground and too closed minded to realize other aspects of warfare and their technological strides than perhaps you should be playing purely infantry combat simulation , not a modern aviation combat simulator.

It wasn't just the Aussies. Actually some USAF F111F's got MFD's ( since it was general dynamics, same ones as in F16C) as part of "Pacer Strike" upgrade post gulf war, which also included a new INS, as well as eventually a GPS module. Pacer strike was a close mirror of the avionics upgrades seen on EF111A's. Also interesting to note prior to pacer strike the F-111F's also got an refitted with a digital flight control system. So yea this kind of late model F111 would be neat.

YFR. Lol Not possible since the 60's. Go tell that to the tourists. Radar technology in turn also has drastically evolved since the 60s as well as other forms of ISR. There are plenty of situation where it will be applicable, no matter if you believe otherwise that having an A/G radar will not be a extra valuable tool in the tool box. If all enemy did was sit camouflaged or hidden in a forest just to avoid any form of surveillance, would not allow an adversary to win due to an inability to adust swiftly enough counter move. This will be even more true for DCS. Dont know why you think a TGP is the lord Jesus Christ and savior of sensors when by your logic when its essentially looking through a drinking straw, and enemies IRL have adapt tactics hide from that to. Same can be applied to Aerial Search radars in the advent of stealth aircraft and electronic warfare. But oh well anything that isn't an all seeing eye immune to any countermeasures is useless in your eyes.

Yes your google is broken. unless you mean all the above listed aircraft together in 1 sim.