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@PhoenixFC3 Hello, I'm sorry it took so long to get the update; ED is, unfortunately, very inflexible regarding campaigns. And, of course, I test all repairs before I forward the mission to ED. Have immediately retested the mission and can not find any error. The Black Hawk starts and circles the ships while you are transporting. What specifically can be the cause of your problem? I have two guesses: 1. you used the time acceleration, and what unfortunately often happens, skipped the trigger for the start. 2. you got too close to the Black Hawk while circling the ships, and it was damaged, which made it turn back to the frigate. My money is on the 1.

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@PhoenixFC3 Unfortunately no. The file is still provided by ED with the security settings. Unfortunately we have no influence on it.

@PhoenixFC3 Hello I checked your error message, and it is indeed only this one ship, which seems to be under revision. Have replaced this temporarily until ED has fixed the problem. The new version of the mission has been sent to ED and should be included in the next update. Thanks again for your report and your patience.

Thank you for your feedback and effort in solving the problem. I knew it is frustrating when things went wrong and a mission broke. I will check that out. In that case ED may by faster, because i already realized that problem on the Tarawa as well. This is a problem regularly apere in DCS and points to changes ships in general. Many Ships have new more detailed 3 d models and textures, so it seems to be a work in progress problem.

Ist es nicht eher so, dass selbst eine Bundesregierung schon damals wusste, dass wenn die Bundeswehr Waffenträger des Feindes einsetzt, der im Falle des Falles sich weigern könnte Waffen und oder Ersatzteile zu liefern? Nachbauen ( in Friedenszeiten) geht ja auch nicht, denn als Rechtsstaat kann man nicht das Recht am geistigen Eigentum eines anderen verletzen. Stellt euch vor. Die Bundeswehr darf ihr Material nicht nur nicht einsetzen weil der TÜV abgelaufen ist, nein Sie muss es auch wenn's funktioniert stehen lassen weil der Feind Sie verklagt. Wie GrafRotz schon schreibt, auch die Bundeswehr ist nur noch ein Mittel der Politik und der Landesverteidigung nicht fähig da nicht beabsichtigt. Hoffe ich habe Ihn hier jetzt nicht falsch zitiert.

CASMO has already mentioned this as well. In DCS, you can fly an APACHE without any basic flying skills and act as no trained pilot would. (@CASMO / sorry for hiding behind your authority here ). This makes it especially difficult to develop a module and to check it for correctness when it comes to things that are not known from the real aircraft. Especially not from situations you don't usually create. The same is true when creating a campaign. The really difficult and time consuming part is to anticipate things and actions that you would never think of yourself. To make matters worse, those players are often the ones who voice the most harsh criticism. But we do not want to generalize. Crowned whiners and those who can not express themselves particularly diplomatically are rather the exception. But they are hard-working writers.

@Raptor9 I think about the question of whether or not this is correct on the APACHE, we're already over that. It is only about a physical effect that could theoretically occur independently of the type of helicopter to explain such behavior theoretically. As far as the flight model of the APACHE is concerned, we have full confidence in you. Rod's comparison was also not a confirmation of right or wrong, he has only made his own thoughts about it. Please do not see any criticism where there is none. To avoid further confusion, I consider the topic for me as closed.

@RodBorza @jubuttib @MAXsenna Since I have already brought up the subject once, you three deserve that I take the trouble to explain to you in more detail what lies behind my educated guess. However, I am currently working on 2 more videos on APACHE flight behavior, in general, which I would like to complete beforehand. It will therefore take a few weeks. In any case, thank you very much for being so open to the topic and the discussion.

I have to admit I have not looked that closely at the APACHE and SCAS? It didn't even occur to me to check it out. Thanks for your info. It confirms that the APACHE is doing everything right in principle and that it is ultimately a question of tuning. But that's what the BETA is also there and even in a published version would be such discrepancies no shame. The exchange that has arisen here now, shows on the one hand how great the DCS community is. Not only that you always get help, many deal very intensively with the topics and the accumulated knowledge is gigantic. Unfortunately, and therefore I hold myself back for a long time on the German forum, some confuse knowledge with understanding and some discussion then degenerates. Even my commercial pilot license and my time as a flight instructor do not make me an aerospace engineer. But neither does learning data and formulas by heart. After my experiences in relation to the APACHE, also in our squadron, this has an almost religious character and other than the official views or opinions are already something like blasphemy. Therefore the attempt to assess the situation in advance, before I bring about my own stoning with a video.

The insight comes from an accident report, as is unfortunately so often the case. Therefore, public and important and I also assume that it is still part of the safety tring today. Unfortunately, it is also somewhat macabre and therefore very memorable. Who something sensiebler should therefore Ignore it. For the pilot, this did not change the sad result. However, the initially inexplicable situation eventually led to the resulting findings. The simple sounding solution to avoid such situations: Avoid low G situations and do not react to rolling movements, e.g. even in the case of strong gusts. The latter is a) much more difficult than it sounds. And b) as I can say from my own experience, it causes a very very bad feeling and requires a lot of trust in the aircraft. Even if there are upper limits for wind and gusts, specifically staggered according to flight experience, it is not recommended to test these limits. The aircraft does its job reliably and safely, I can say that. However, how the individual reacts in the situation is written in the stars and unfortunately too often then in an accident report.

Hi bradmick. I can imagine that discussions about an unfinished flight model on which you do great work get on your nerves. Did not want to reignite a discussion about the flight model, but only point out that it has a physical background. Sorry that I'm a smartass, but if I now already know something. Thankfully, you have confirmed the effect. Whether he is currently much too powerful in DCS is ultimately a question of optimization and fine-tuning and certainly not easy. To judge when this is achieved, I leave to the people who have practical experience. However, it would be a pity if the effect, since it is already there, were to disappear completely just to avoid discussions.

@RodBorza You are a flight Instructor? Thank you for your detailed explanation. I was not sure if it is really so obvious, and I am storm tested in this regard. Your explanation does not quite hit it, but already very close to it. Every airplane and helicopter has its own peculiarities. This may be one of the APACHE. Pressing the cyclic hard will cause a short but drastic change of the angle of attack. In addition, the round rotor surface becomes an oval, which also has a strong effect on the airflow. In conjunction with the gyro precision, this probably leads to a roll to the left. If the maneuver is performed slowly and carefully, the effect is probably reduced by flapping. Skilled helicopter pilots are not tempted to do this because they are less hard on the controls and use the collective to sink. However, the tail rotor moving up over the rotor head would result in a right roll. This effect should be well known to all R22 and R44 pilots, as it is explained pictorially in the Safety Course. For all those who think angel of attack and flapping are abstract terms, a video would be the best way to illustrate and explain this. But good that I asked, why probably, so I can save myself the effort.

@Mausar Thanks, I know the video. Nevertheless, there is a physical explanation for this. Why Casmo did not make the experience in DCS and RL, he has explained. Some things you don't do.

Is there interest in a video that explains why the Apache rightly rolls to the left when the cyclic is pushed forward? Ask this because it is quite elaborate and the cause as I think wrong in the beta status and the flight model was found.

Yes, this is late, but it is also for a good reason. As a commercial pliot I find no satisfaction in missiles, lasers or video screens with IR function. The APACHE in DCS is in the Beata and still being worked on heavily. It is already a great module but there is a reason why the flight model is not the first priority of the developers behind the electronics and weapons. This first part is about what I like about helicopters and what is slowly but surely coming back to DCS. Of course you should not forget that we are talking about 6.5 to 9.5 tons, depending on the equipment. Like that of many others, my image of the Apache was mainly determined by the movie Fire Birds in the German version Airborne-Wings of Steel with Nicolas Cage. This mighty power flying fortress a fat SUV of the skies armed to the teeth.

@Gianky Thank you for giving the campaign a chance. Depending on how much experience you have with campaigns and the Uh-1 you will have some positive but also at first sight negative experiences, because the missions are challenging not only because of their duration. If something is unclear, something does not work as you think you will find many helpful videos on our channel, but feel free to contact me directly. Here in the forum, or better via DISCORD I am easy to reach and help where I can. One tip I can give you in any case. You are in the army, so thinking for yourself is not always helpful. Just listen to your commander.

According to initial reports from the DISCORD group, replacing the file seems to fix the problem in 3 out of 4 cases.

NEED HELP FOR A FAST SOLUTION It would be great if someone could replace the file in the directory C:\Program Files\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World OpenBeta\Mods\campaigns\UH-1H Worlds Apart Spring 2025 with the file in the attachment and test whether the campaign appears after a DCS restart then with him again? Thanks in advance WORLDS_APART_Spring_2025.cmp

@GrafRotz Thank you for the quick reaction. Reale seams to be a problem wit my Server, providing false time and date information to my computer.

At any new start of DCS Beta i get that info. Error code 500 Authorization / Use saved configuration But it is always only DCS without any module that comes up after that with the 2 days timeframe. No problem to login to my DCS account on the ED website.

And again, a year comes to an end, and it's time to say thank you. Thank you for your support and especially your patience, which is unfortunately also, at the moment, in DCS but the one or other time quite strained. Wish you all happy holidays and a blessed new year.

Unfortunately, we have no influence on what and when ED includes in the updates. Even if we have provided everything in time, the problem has not been fixed with today's hotfix. Mission 4 was not replaced either, so this bug still exists. We hope for the New Year and still wish a lot of fun for all those who work with the Workaraund.