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Yep, but why do Radars even use lower then PRF for low relative velocity targets inside high PRF range ? The technical reasons are mysterious to me. :D What does HFR and BFR mean ?

I mean there is no difference between ground clutter and a low relative velocity target. I mean ground clutter is the definition of a low relative velocity target. PRF is only the time interval between radar pulses, and if you get one pulse with the entire ground reflecting the pulse or 10 in the same time doesnt make you get more or less ground return. The setting of the doppler filter is influencing how many ground returns get discarded and which dont. I know that is that way in game and I think there is probably something in the bush in terms of signal processing back then. I can imagine that high PRF with no or limited doppler filter simply overloads the onboard computer with returns to evaluate. But that is a wild guess, but from the signal itself PRF really only determines the max speed and max range you can get with a single pulse. If you have staggered PRF different frequencies etc you can work around all that but I guess that is pretty advanced stuff. Minimum speed isnt a problem for the speed detection. The only problem emerges if the doppler return frequency is too close to the PRF, because then you cant determine if the doppler frequency is the PRF or double or three times that. But technically PRF doesnt limit the lower end of speed detection, neither the low end range. I guess the medium PRF is just coupled to a less aggressive doppler filter, but due to the larger amount of returns to be processed it switches to a lower PRF. That is my wild guess at it, trying to find an explanation for roughly a week now. No luck so far.

Mi8 is great fun indeed, I prefer it over the huey by miles. Especially the stronk landing gear is brilliant if you do not have time for nice landings. The fun of doing full speed wheel landings with active wheelbrake is just not reachable in the ka50 or any helicopter with skids. :D

Comred, shouldnt we get problems with pressure and oxygen up here ? Shut up Ivan ! Party has given us this great piece of stealthy engineering to fight the capitalist hordes, keep scanning for targets ! :lol:

Just give me the nuclear launch codes and everything will be fine :detective_2: No worries ! :) We should probably do something like blueflag meme worthy player performance award. :lol: Things like F15c loading freakin training aim9s, no joke found one in the track from yesterday night... x) Micro trusting the buggy gazelle altitude hold autopilot and running his ship aground while checking f10 Map. 5 A10c circling COM1, not beeing able to close it literally forevar. Btw I think there is an AI mi8 in gelenzik assigned as QRA fighter, at least I did find a lonely AI mi8 flying at 35 000 ft out of gelenzik direction sochi loaded with upk23s. I mean gun armed helicopters are some of the best SEAD devices in game imho, but mi8 as Air superiority fighter dunno. :megalol: I think none of the fighters did scan at 33 000 in medium PRF since it was going sub 100kt. :D

:DD I am premium customer, won the screenshot contest for round 6/7 with my screenshot of the ridicoulous Tblisi defence Painter and I did put up, while IASGATG and Tiger where fighting of the hordes in F15s. :DD [i know there where other brave f15 pilots taking off against the hordes but tiger and IASGATG got the most stick time that night iirc.] http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2811751&postcount=3 Thats why Greg is nice to me. ))) Wait for the release of the mistral gazelle, who needs CAP then anyways ))). Technically better missile loadout then the f5e. :D 4x fox2 on a helicopter is pretty gud imho, but unless flying in a group, I would still take the L, its the most versatile unless you want to attack anything guarded by theese bloody shilkas. :joystick:

I love you !!! ;) :pilotfly: Did already do patrol around a FARP in danger of beeing captured with the l and was hovering behind the next ridgeline of the same FARP in the last minutes before restart, where redfor could have sneaked in a transport heli. Was following the battle over COM1 with the sight from the distance. Felt like a legid scout helicopter. :D

Noice ! :) Did the 342l did get its CTLD menue ? :music_whistling:

But wouldnt technically be the doppler filter the only thing limiting detection of a low relative velocity target ? PRF does only influence max non ambigious range and speed by doppler right ?

[ame] [/ame] Well, it does have a higher tail boom so you dont have to fear to put it down while flaring as much and it doesnt have a Fenestron which should give you way more authority in yaw. But also forces you to keep your feet on the antitorque. For SAS I dont know the capabilites of the BO105. The only comparison from Pilots I did hear so far is, that gazelle is like driving a sportscar while the bo105 is like riding a cross motorbike. :) So yeah, should be more direct on the controls probably. :D [wild guessing intensifies]

Plox gods of Buddyspike gib Transport/Intel options for 342L ! My heart is slowly dying not beeing able to fly it !!!1!!1! :megalol:

Yee sorry x). Was pretty salty yesterday, all the invested time and the outcome was practically Nill. :joystick: I know both sides of the stick of development. :D So dont worry to much about my saltyness the rest of the time i had a great time with the module so far. :))

I would be bug repporting the living cr*p out of this, if there wasnt this thread. I flew an hour below 10m radar alt, in the 342m, came to a down to 3kph perfect hover not even 5m above the ground, did descent at around 65m/minute and the pilot blacked out on touchdown, and helicopter bursted into flames. Afaik the Gazelle can take up to 100m/min without damage on landing. Seriously I mean, that the 4 HOTs didnt do any damage to bunkers beeing stacked due to respawning is probably not your fault. Its proabbly EDs engine, not your module on that part. But flying one hour at/below treetop level, the weapons not doing any damage and then your aircraft desintegrating for no reason at all. Well I am safe to say I am triggered beyond normal and I really hope the ground interaction issues are fixed in the next intteration of the Gazelle. I like the module, really I think its great, but the ground interaction is reaalyy just embarassing. Pilots usually do not black out because your helicopter touches the ground at 1m/s. I mean you probably reach 1m/s if you jump high enough ...

MJ2 seems to be comparable to the blu108 skeets. "Pansarvärnssubstridsdelarna will for ejection to deposit two wings which causes it to fall to the ground in a helical path. It begins search of the target area to find armored vehicles or equivalent. With multiple sensors, including a laser that provides a 3D imaging, evaluating all the possible targets to eliminate everything that is not a proper goal. When it found a target and decided to attack the target will wait until the rotated one more turn. Once again directed straight towards the goal detonate it, which sends a single impact body toward the target. Impact The body turns through the roof of the armored vehicle and hit it with a high verkanssannolikhet." Google translate from the swedish BK90 page, but accurate enough to say it seems to be same design as the skeets, even if it is a much higer weight. Skeets are 1.5kg iirc.

Defended EWR emplacements in places which were blind spots before. Can be taken like other assets.

B1B Command approves of zis )))

AKA feature ))) Lots of spies everywhere.

And thors Hammer ! Mighty BK90/DWS39 doomsday machine.

If you can use the F10 Map, you are flying to high or to slow. Period. :DD For multicrew thingies like an MI8 or UH1 where you have a copilot/navigator for a reason, I am fine with having the Position on the F10 map. In single crew planes It shouldnt be there, I agree. But since we cant have differnt options for differnt kind of slots I guess that is not going to happen.

Viggens are scrambled. :D

Ahhhhhh YIS THX !!! :DD Will test ! :D

:thumbup: great job on fast patch. Dont want to stress it but any eta on 342l ? :music_whistling:

It isnt the ultimate but by far the best. reliable range against mvoing chopper is 6km with VIKHR. I agree that spotting the enemy is as important as in any other engagement. UH1 will only kill the ka50 if the KA50 is hovering, ka50 should never hover, it has all the fancy systems to do everything on the move, if you hover you are robbing yourself of every possibility to react. [Thats why the HOT3s are shi*** in comparison to KA50 systems, you basically cany turn in the slightest without having camera jumping, which makes adjusting the aim impossible, so you have to hover for reliable hits, which is terrible]. And even then, rockets are the only reliable way to kill the ka50 for the huey. The miniguns do such low damage, that a ka50 still flies after hundreds of hits, not fully intact ofc, but still capable at least of some low end tasks. And in the End, KA50 can just run from a huey. If an mi8 jumps onto an ka50 in the normal setup I kind of agree with you, although there is tactics which give you the upper hand in the ka50 over traditional helis if you stick to it. Do you even fly the Gazelle ? The rangefinder doesnt work against flying targets and it cant "lock" anything [to be clear, no tracking of targets]. You have to manually guide the missile in. And to launch you have to be within +/-3 degrees of the target heading. You can fix the camera on a point on the ground, but that drifts obviously, thats why you have to readjust even when attacking ground targets, while moving. Now adjust a sight, which drifts due to false range expectations due to no knowledge of elavation, jumps around due to bad stabilisation implementation and is also vibrating, so you dont even have a steady screen. The L will only kill the KA50, if the KA50 doesnt spot the L at range. If the KA50 lets the 342l get closer then 800m its probably toast, simply because it has to much inertia to keep up with the flimsy gazelle. But If you get a lock even at 1.5km, just throw two vikhrs and the gazelle is toast, or just fire 30mm, or just do boath for maximum overkill.

You have to use launch overide ofc to outrange SA8. But its possible, especially if you fire on the move. Same for gun. You can pretty reliable hit targets out to 3.5km with HE, unfortunately the time fuze goes of at 4km. But with AP you can kill strelas out of their engagement range. Its possible. You spend quite some ammo, but you can finish of at least 4 with the 220 AP rounds you got. And that all while you are maneuvering, for an reliable HOT hit you pretty much have to be stationary. I dont need to join redfor to test that. :D I did roughly 3 hours of testing with 342l/m ka50 against a target area with sa8/sa13/zsu23-4 combo. You can engage sa8 with vikhr out of its firing range. Well, I get your feels, but ABRIS is part of KA50 systems, so no reason not to use it. Its the as good as it gets replacement for a missing RWR/MWS. While you can carry srikes out without CAP, done multiple times in round 6 and 7, its obviously easier with CAP. What I was referring to, Gazelle has to rely on CAP protecting the B1. If KA50 is in range, you launch and kill, done. I dunno how you can say that its balanced if its capable of achieving the same single task. Gazelle cant engage enemy helicopters for shi*** for example, while in the KA50 you pretty much have a god damn powerfull anti chopper tool.

Honestly, I fly both the KA50 and the Gazelle and I would take the KA50 over the gazelle any day. In the role of an attack helicopter. The KA50 is basically 35% faster, and has no problem what so ever to go over 3km mountains, if you want to go over that with the gazelle, you pretty much have to reduce horizontal speed to 100kph to get at least some climb rate, and even then you are operating at the risk of killing your engine. The Ka50 is beefy, it can take loads of damage, I mean its armored, the Gazelle is pretty damn fragile. The KA50 has a gun, that is superior to the HOT3 missiles in pretty much any aspect, unless you are engaging the bunkers. [both ammunition count, movable mount, lead compensation, especially against air targets, the gun only is better then 4 hot missiles by far. Even just a Clip of AP ammo is probably better then the 4HOTs.] The KA50 has 12 Vikhrs, ATGMs which have a range surpassing any SAM system we have in blueflag atm, which are pretty damn good anti heli missiles, can be fired from the move, can be guided while turning 25 degrees away from the target and are pretty much twice as fast. The KA50 has two S8kom launchers, if you are good with them you can take out 2 bunkers and a white house with them. The KA50 has surpreme SA considering SAM systems => ABRIS. The KA50 can carry out strikes on its own, it does not need friendly CAP to dedicate resources to cover a B1 going in at high altitude. Lets say the KA50 and Gazelle are even if you consider time to destroy 10 targets, or maybee the gazelle is even faster, although I honestly doubt that, the B1 takes a while to spawn/get there. After the B1 has hit the target, there is a substantial cool down and afaik you cant have two b1s flying at the same time, so given you have the same CAP as the Gazelle needs to do its job, the KA50 can do the same thing. I admit the RWR is nice and I would give an arm and a leg to have it in a KA50, but honestly, it doesnt safe you, it just tells you when its to late anyway. KA50 knows all the airdefenes by ABRIS, the Gazelle can only tell you if a fighter is locking you or not, there is nothing you can do about it anyways, ofc you can rtb and say "f***k this, im going home". But nobody of us would. xD I agree, that you can achieve the similar results with KA50 and Gazelle, but the Gazelle isnt in any way shape or form an balanced opponent for le KA50. EDIT: I dont want anything changed, apart from having 342l, its fine as it is. Its just not true that the gazelle is a balanced counterpart for the ka50. :D