Hog_driver

Perhaps some lesser smoke grenade effect could be added to the launcher as a temporary solution.

I made some Wild Weasel missions against the SA-2 to get some practice and realized that the launch is often not really visible from the air. Could we get something like this? (2 top photos) Because now we have something like this... (3 screenshots at the bottom)

Interesting, thank you for you input. But I still haven't found any information on any guidance signals sent to the missile by any of the SA-5 system radars.

Why not? "See the world they said, sexy planes and fast chicks, but didn't mention SAMs and triple A. I'm outta here!"

Yeah, I know. It was discussed because in one scenario, the target (SR-71) turned ECM on immediately after missile launch - but how did the pilot (or WSO) even know that the missile was airborne? It was agreed that the pilot must get a notification from an AWACS aircraft, and a delay was introduced.

No RL info, it's just logic - you're almost 50 NM away, you've got no MAW (IIRC), you've been tracked and locked on for some time and the Gammon is a SARH system, no command signals are emitted after launch - so how is your RWR able to detect the launch? I guess the matter was discussed on the SAM simulator forum, many years ago.

As a workaround, press the A-G button.

You're right, I forgot we've already got the F-15E... oh wait.

And then... convert it into the F-15E? Clever!

I had the same problem, even performed a slow repair

It depends on the weapon you selected and delivery mode. For example, if you've got Mark 82s, radar is not available in the CCIP mode, but you can use it in the CCRP mode.

So this one got lucky. Have you seen this video? Or this one?

Thanks, it makes sense. Which doesn't mean that I necessarily like those decisions but I kind of can understand them from the gameplay point of view.

That's how I understand it, the problem is that I actually GOT the launch warning.

I guess the KRO missile flight status signal was sent only if the missile lost the target.

I think this was already discussed sometime, somewhere, just want to be sure. How exactly is an SA-5 missile launch detected? I was flying an F-16 at 15,000 ft, got a search warning, then a track warning, which was ok. But at a range of 49 NM I got a launch warning - but how was the launch detected, since the SA-5 is a SARH system with no command guidance channel (as far as I know, I'm not an SME)?

As far as I know, it isn't. It flies toward a target that is 'illuminated' by the launching fighter's (MiG-29's) radar.

Both the SA-6 and R-27R are semi-active radar homed missiles, so you are warned that the enemy radar is locked-on on you. But as far as I know, the SA-6 missile is command-guided in the initial phase of flight, so I guess it's the command guidance channel that is detected and interpreted as launch.

But RWR does not detect missiles 'as such', only active radar emitters. So it won't detect, for instance, IR-guided missiles.

Preorder, anybody?

That's why in the sim, the water is even under the ground

and I thought I was a pessimist...

Come on, it's not that bad, at least we can fly the F-15E while it still works

Need I say more?

I'd gladly use some Vietnam map for this