hornblower793

The focus area may be small, but the FOV is large for most people where peripheral vision is a key attribute

I think that is already stated as coming at some point later in EA

I believe they are bringing dynamic reflections in - what has gone is the artificial baked reflections that looked terrible under certain conditions

Are you taking off with 3 units of nose down trim?

Great news

@SU33UB both sets of logs are showing out of memory errors. It might be worth upping the size of your pagefile from 12GB to 32GB to match your RAM size. I would also check that your memory is not faulty (using Memtest or similar)

It still looks like an issue with Chromium - libcef.dll the Chromium embedded framework and it seems to be hitting a breakpoint inside this. Have you tried repairing DCS since you deleted the Chrome Browser. 2024-06-08 05:42:23.976 INFO EDCORE (CrBrowserMain): try to write dump information 2024-06-08 05:42:24.014 WARNING WORLD (Main): ModelTimeQuantizer: ANTIFREEZE ENABLED 2024-06-08 05:42:24.186 INFO EDCORE (CrBrowserMain): # -------------- 20240608-054224 -------------- 2024-06-08 05:42:24.186 INFO EDCORE (CrBrowserMain): DCS/2.9.5.55918 (x86_64; MT; Windows NT 10.0.19045) 2024-06-08 05:42:24.187 INFO EDCORE (CrBrowserMain): D:\steam\steamapps\common\DCSWorld\bin-mt\libcef.dll 2024-06-08 05:42:24.187 INFO EDCORE (CrBrowserMain): # 80000003 BREAKPOINT at 00007ffdac0a58fb 03:033158FB 2024-06-08 05:42:24.187 INFO EDCORE (CrBrowserMain): SymInit: Symbol-SearchPath: 'D:\steam\steamapps\common\DCSWorld\bin-mt;', symOptions: 532, UserName: 'lmwjm' 2024-06-08 05:42:24.187 INFO EDCORE (CrBrowserMain): OS-Version: 10.0.19045 () 0x100-0x1 2024-06-08 05:42:24.188 INFO EDCORE (CrBrowserMain): 0x00000000033158fb (libcef): CrashForExceptionInNonABICompliantCodeRange + 0xCB9F6B 2024-06-08 05:42:24.188 INFO EDCORE (CrBrowserMain): 0x0000000001537b68 (libcef): cef_time_from_basetime + 0x13F13C8 2024-06-08 05:42:24.188 INFO EDCORE (CrBrowserMain): 0x00000000015346a3 (libcef): cef_time_from_basetime + 0x13EDF03 2024-06-08 05:42:24.189 INFO EDCORE (CrBrowserMain): 0x0000000001532857 (libcef): cef_time_from_basetime + 0x13EC0B7 2024-06-08 05:42:24.189 INFO EDCORE (CrBrowserMain): 0x000000000153f37f (libcef): cef_time_from_basetime + 0x13F8BDF 2024-06-08 05:42:24.189 INFO EDCORE (CrBrowserMain): 0x0000000001540723 (libcef): cef_time_from_basetime + 0x13F9F83 2024-06-08 05:42:24.189 INFO EDCORE (CrBrowserMain): 0x00000000013c3540 (libcef): cef_time_from_basetime + 0x127CDA0 2024-06-08 05:42:24.190 INFO EDCORE (CrBrowserMain): 0x000000000141cb14 (libcef): cef_time_from_basetime + 0x12D6374 2024-06-08 05:42:24.190 INFO EDCORE (CrBrowserMain): 0x000000000141d74d (libcef): cef_time_from_basetime + 0x12D6FAD 2024-06-08 05:42:24.190 INFO EDCORE (CrBrowserMain): 0x000000000141d9cd (libcef): cef_time_from_basetime + 0x12D722D 2024-06-08 05:42:24.190 INFO EDCORE (CrBrowserMain): 0x0000000003362827 (libcef): CrashForExceptionInNonABICompliantCodeRange + 0xD06E97 2024-06-08 05:42:24.190 INFO EDCORE (CrBrowserMain): 0x00000000040db365 (libcef): RelaunchChromeBrowserWithNewCommandLineIfNeeded + 0x5D0885 2024-06-08 05:42:24.191 INFO EDCORE (CrBrowserMain): 0x00000000040dade5 (libcef): RelaunchChromeBrowserWithNewCommandLineIfNeeded + 0x5D0305 2024-06-08 05:42:24.191 INFO EDCORE (CrBrowserMain): 0x0000000003394d16 (libcef): CrashForExceptionInNonABICompliantCodeRange + 0xD39386 2024-06-08 05:42:24.191 INFO EDCORE (CrBrowserMain): 0x0000000003394639 (libcef): CrashForExceptionInNonABICompliantCodeRange + 0xD38CA9 2024-06-08 05:42:24.191 INFO EDCORE (CrBrowserMain): 0x00000000040dbd4b (libcef): RelaunchChromeBrowserWithNewCommandLineIfNeeded + 0x5D126B 2024-06-08 05:42:24.192 INFO EDCORE (CrBrowserMain): 0x0000000003344dbd (libcef): CrashForExceptionInNonABICompliantCodeRange + 0xCE942D 2024-06-08 05:42:24.192 INFO EDCORE (CrBrowserMain): 0x00000000000bb442 (libcef): cef_zip_reader_create + 0x64052 2024-06-08 05:42:24.192 INFO EDCORE (CrBrowserMain): 0x00000000000bc753 (libcef): cef_zip_reader_create + 0x65363 2024-06-08 05:42:24.192 INFO EDCORE (CrBrowserMain): 0x000000000339e511 (libcef): CrashForExceptionInNonABICompliantCodeRange + 0xD42B81 2024-06-08 05:42:24.192 INFO EDCORE (CrBrowserMain): 0x0000000000017344 (KERNEL32): BaseThreadInitThunk + 0x14 2024-06-08 05:42:24.610 INFO EDCORE (CrBrowserMain): Minidump created. 2024-06-08 05:42:24.610 INFO Lua::Config (CrBrowserMain): stack traceback: Unfortunately, debugging this is beyond my abilities but @HB_Painter, @Zabuzard or @IronMike might have more of an idea

From your log it looks more like it might be a DCS issue rather than an F4 issue Your log has the following when it crashes 2024-06-07 16:53:47.921 INFO EDCORE (12936): try to write dump information 2024-06-07 16:53:48.062 INFO EDCORE (12936): # -------------- 20240607-165348 -------------- 2024-06-07 16:53:48.063 INFO EDCORE (12936): DCS/2.9.5.55918 (x86_64; MT; Windows NT 10.0.22631) 2024-06-07 16:53:48.063 INFO EDCORE (12936): D:\DCS World\bin-mt\DCS.exe 2024-06-07 16:53:48.064 INFO EDCORE (12936): # C0000005 ACCESS_VIOLATION at 00007ff76a0e303b 00:00000000 2024-06-07 16:53:48.064 INFO EDCORE (12936): SymInit: Symbol-SearchPath: 'D:\DCS World\bin-mt;', symOptions: 532, UserName: 'thkal' 2024-06-07 16:53:48.065 INFO EDCORE (12936): OS-Version: 10.0.22631 () 0x100-0x1 2024-06-07 16:53:48.066 INFO EDCORE (12936): 0x0000000000d0303b (DCS): SW + 0x841FAB 2024-06-07 16:53:48.066 INFO EDCORE (12936): 0x0000000000d03bb8 (DCS): SW + 0x842B28 2024-06-07 16:53:48.066 INFO EDCORE (12936): 0x0000000000d03610 (DCS): SW + 0x842580 2024-06-07 16:53:48.067 INFO EDCORE (12936): 0x0000000000d4d01e (DCS): SW + 0x88BF8E 2024-06-07 16:53:48.067 INFO EDCORE (12936): 0x0000000000d28f3d (DCS): SW + 0x867EAD 2024-06-07 16:53:48.068 INFO EDCORE (12936): 0x0000000000d3cbc6 (DCS): SW + 0x87BB36 2024-06-07 16:53:48.068 INFO EDCORE (12936): 0x0000000000d6ca9b (DCS): SW + 0x8ABA0B 2024-06-07 16:53:48.068 INFO EDCORE (12936): 0x0000000000de85c0 (DCS): SW + 0x927530 2024-06-07 16:53:48.069 INFO EDCORE (12936): 0x0000000000de760f (DCS): SW + 0x92657F 2024-06-07 16:53:48.069 INFO EDCORE (12936): 0x0000000000d0b471 (DCS): SW + 0x84A3E1 2024-06-07 16:53:48.069 INFO EDCORE (12936): 0x0000000000d38539 (DCS): SW + 0x8774A9 2024-06-07 16:53:48.069 INFO EDCORE (12936): 0x0000000000dc5d6e (DCS): SW + 0x904CDE 2024-06-07 16:53:48.069 INFO EDCORE (12936): 0x0000000000d0b471 (DCS): SW + 0x84A3E1 2024-06-07 16:53:48.069 INFO EDCORE (12936): 0x0000000000d18d14 (DCS): SW + 0x857C84 2024-06-07 16:53:48.069 INFO EDCORE (12936): 0x0000000000d19012 (DCS): SW + 0x857F82 2024-06-07 16:53:48.070 INFO EDCORE (12936): 0x0000000000e74df6 (DCS): SW + 0x9B3D66 2024-06-07 16:53:48.070 INFO EDCORE (12936): 0x000000000001257d (KERNEL32): BaseThreadInitThunk + 0x1D 2024-06-07 16:53:48.543 INFO EDCORE (12936): Minidump created. 2024-06-07 16:53:48.543 INFO Lua::Config (12936): stack traceback: 2024-06-07 16:53:48.548 WARNING LOG (5160): 3 duplicate message(s) skipped. 2024-06-07 16:53:48.548 WARNING WORLD (Main): ModelTimeQuantizer: ANTIFREEZE ENABLED 2024-06-07 16:53:48.548 INFO APP (12936): enumerating loaded modules 2024-06-07 16:53:48.549 INFO APP (12936): D:\DCS World\bin-mt\DCS.exe, 32202240 bytes, created 5:6:2024-21.51.29, written 5:6:2024-21.51.29, accessed 7:6:2024-16.53.48 2024-06-07 16:53:48.549 INFO APP (12936): C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\ntdll.dll, 2187272 bytes, created 14:5:2024-23.1.15, written 14:5:2024-23.1.15, accessed 7:6:2024-16.53.48 2024-06-07 16:53:48.549 INFO APP (12936): C:\Windows\System32\KERNEL32.DLL, 815448 bytes, created 14:5:2024-23.1.15, written 14:5:2024-23.1.15, accessed 7:6:2024-16.53.48 Which references the main DCS.exe At the same point my log gives loading of terrain 2024-06-06 20:27:52.760 WARNING WORLD (Main): ModelTimeQuantizer: ANTIFREEZE ENABLED 2024-06-06 20:27:52.879 WARNING WORLD (Main): ModelTimeQuantizer: SAME MODEL TIME 2024-06-06 20:30:13.534 INFO APP (Main): wcTanker::onEvent:0 2024-06-06 20:30:41.758 WARNING WORLD (Main): ModelTimeQuantizer: SAME MODEL TIME 2024-06-06 20:35:37.019 INFO APP (Main): wcTanker::onEvent:0 2024-06-06 20:35:38.826 INFO EDTERRAINGRAPHICS41 (14704): surface5 gc() LOD 0 93 squares 2024-06-06 20:35:38.827 INFO EDTERRAINGRAPHICS41 (14704): surface5 gc() LOD 1 178 squares 2024-06-06 20:35:38.828 INFO EDTERRAINGRAPHICS41 (14704): surface5 gc() LOD 2 220 squares 2024-06-06 20:35:38.828 INFO EDTERRAINGRAPHICS41 (14704): surface5 gc() LOD 3 110 squares 2024-06-06 20:35:38.828 INFO EDTERRAINGRAPHICS41 (14704): surface5 gc() 5.156700 ms Have you tried creating a simple mission in the ME with just a player F-4E on a ramp somewhere (or even do a hotstart in the air and see if that will load for you)?

Great stuff - glad it is working for you

This is more likely to be the Chromium browser used for the HBUI to display manuals etc

It looks like it is the Chrome browser causing the issue. There are several CrashForExceptionInNonABICompliantCodeRange errors at the point the dump is created. Currently at work so cannot investigate now but might give others a clue

+1 for Skatezilla

What mission(s) are you trying to run and how are you trying to start them? Do you enter F10 and then get stuck? Does the mission briefing screen appear?

Interesting - I have just flown and didn't notice this when I engaged AFCS so will have another look later tomorrow evening when I am back at my PC

Are you wings level(ish) before you engage AFCS? If not, it might be trying to get back to the roll attitude you were at when you hit the AFCS switch

Cockpit is much lighter Other fixes I have worked through so far are good. Well done to the Heatblur team

Both seem to be crashing at the same point in loading so that might give Heatblur a clue 2024-06-05 17:26:20.220 INFO EDCORE (Main): try to write dump information 2024-06-05 17:26:20.222 INFO EDCORE (Main): # -------------- 20240605-172620 -------------- 2024-06-05 17:26:20.223 INFO EDCORE (Main): DCS/2.9.5.55918 (x86_64; MT; Windows NT 10.0.22621) 2024-06-05 17:26:20.223 INFO EDCORE (Main): D:\DCS World OpenBeta\Mods\aircraft\F-4E\bin\F-4E-Avionics.dll 2024-06-05 17:26:20.223 INFO EDCORE (Main): # C0000005 ACCESS_VIOLATION at 00007ff967a64100 00:00000000 2024-06-05 17:26:20.224 INFO EDCORE (Main): SymInit: Symbol-SearchPath: '.', symOptions: 532, UserName: 'Diamantis' 2024-06-05 17:26:20.224 INFO EDCORE (Main): OS-Version: 10.0.22621 () 0x100-0x1 2024-06-05 17:26:20.224 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000003b4100 (F-4E-Avionics): cockpit::F4EAvionics::DCSWeaponsInterface::FireWeaponInDCS + 0x1F2F0 2024-06-05 17:26:20.225 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000003b417b (F-4E-Avionics): cockpit::F4EAvionics::DCSWeaponsInterface::FireWeaponInDCS + 0x1F36B 2024-06-05 17:26:20.225 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x0000000000439038 (F-4E-Avionics): cockpit::F4EAvionics::DCS_JesterDialog::PushQuestion + 0x5DB8 2024-06-05 17:26:20.225 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x0000000000218ede (CockpitBase): cockpit::avDevice_BasicTimer::NextEvent + 0x1E 2024-06-05 17:26:20.225 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000000045ab (World): wSimTrace::CommandsTraceDiscreteIsOn + 0x3EB 2024-06-05 17:26:20.225 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x0000000000004bc2 (World): wSimCalendar::DoActionsUntil + 0x262 2024-06-05 17:26:20.225 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000008c9109 (DCS): SW + 0x408079 2024-06-05 17:26:20.225 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000008c8de1 (DCS): SW + 0x407D51 2024-06-05 17:26:20.225 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000008ebc82 (DCS): SW + 0x42ABF2 2024-06-05 17:26:20.225 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000008a8a34 (DCS): SW + 0x3E79A4 2024-06-05 17:26:20.225 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000008aa163 (DCS): SW + 0x3E90D3 2024-06-05 17:26:20.226 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000004a1c10 (DCS): (function-name not available) + 0x0 2024-06-05 17:26:20.226 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x000000000280d185 (DCS): AmdPowerXpressRequestHighPerformance + 0x13A3181 2024-06-05 17:26:20.226 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x0000000000cf5dde (DCS): SW + 0x834D4E 2024-06-05 17:26:20.226 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x000000000001257d (KERNEL32): BaseThreadInitThunk + 0x1D 2024-06-05 17:11:47.770 INFO EDCORE (Main): # -------------- 20240605-171147 -------------- 2024-06-05 17:11:47.772 INFO EDCORE (Main): DCS/2.9.5.55918 (x86_64; MT; Windows NT 10.0.19045) 2024-06-05 17:11:47.774 INFO EDCORE (Main): E:\SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\DCSWorld\Mods\aircraft\F-4E\bin\F-4E-Avionics.dll 2024-06-05 17:11:47.775 INFO EDCORE (Main): # C0000005 ACCESS_VIOLATION at 00007fff14344100 00:00000000 2024-06-05 17:11:47.777 INFO EDCORE (Main): SymInit: Symbol-SearchPath: '.', symOptions: 532, UserName: 'jrbob' 2024-06-05 17:11:47.779 INFO EDCORE (Main): OS-Version: 10.0.19045 () 0x100-0x1 2024-06-05 17:11:47.782 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000003b4100 (F-4E-Avionics): cockpit::F4EAvionics::DCSWeaponsInterface::FireWeaponInDCS + 0x1F2F0 2024-06-05 17:11:47.784 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000003b417b (F-4E-Avionics): cockpit::F4EAvionics::DCSWeaponsInterface::FireWeaponInDCS + 0x1F36B 2024-06-05 17:11:47.784 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x0000000000431708 (F-4E-Avionics): cockpit::F4EAvionics::DCS_JesterWheel::SetMenuInfo + 0x4198 2024-06-05 17:11:47.784 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x0000000000218ede (CockpitBase): cockpit::avDevice_BasicTimer::NextEvent + 0x1E 2024-06-05 17:11:47.784 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000000045ab (World): wSimTrace::CommandsTraceDiscreteIsOn + 0x3EB 2024-06-05 17:11:47.784 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x0000000000004bc2 (World): wSimCalendar::DoActionsUntil + 0x262 2024-06-05 17:11:47.784 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000008c9109 (DCS): SW + 0x408079 2024-06-05 17:11:47.784 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000008c8de1 (DCS): SW + 0x407D51 2024-06-05 17:11:47.785 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000008ebc82 (DCS): SW + 0x42ABF2 2024-06-05 17:11:47.785 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000008a8a34 (DCS): SW + 0x3E79A4 2024-06-05 17:11:47.785 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000008aa163 (DCS): SW + 0x3E90D3 2024-06-05 17:11:47.785 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000004a1c10 (DCS): (function-name not available) + 0x0 2024-06-05 17:11:47.785 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x000000000280d185 (DCS): AmdPowerXpressRequestHighPerformance + 0x13A3181 2024-06-05 17:11:47.785 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x0000000000cf5dde (DCS): SW + 0x834D4E 2024-06-05 17:11:47.785 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x0000000000017344 (KERNEL32): BaseThreadInitThunk + 0x14 2024-06-05 17:11:48.312 INFO EDCORE (Main): Minidump created.

Yes - you have to do it this way so that the software knows what you are trying to do. There is a fuller explanation from Heatblur in a different thread

Please could you upload your logfile following a crash so that we can have a look for clues to the cause

Heatblur have already said that the radar is a known issue and they are working on it

The logfile will be in your Saved Games folder (C:\Users\<username>\Saved Games\DCS.openbeta\Logs When you are creating your forum post there should be the following option at the bottom of the message pane Either drag your logfile (dcs.log) onto there or click on choose files...

I have just launched DCS quite happily with the 555.85 drivers (also VR with a Crystal) and all Windows updates installed so it looks like it might be something in your rig

It shouldn't do - I also run VR and it works for me. Do you have any mods installed?

It is definitely bound to Jester UI Action (Short, Hold)?

What sort of mission are you trying to run? - the log I looked at generated a crash trying to generate the mission briefing