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Up from the depths, thirty storeys high, breathing fire, high in the sky, GODZILLA dum dee dum, GODZILLA dum dee dum, GODZILLA dum dee dum and Godzuky, di di di dee di di deedee di deeee, GOJIRA AGHHHHHHHHHH. I remember that song from the Godzilla and Godzucky cartoons show in britain near on 30 years ago. it has always stuck in my mind because the tune was so catchy.

Yea I agree with you, that giving enough money every house on the planet near enough could have its own small windmill for generating power and solar panels, or one or the other depending where about in the world you are and land set aside for greener alternatives, whatever they maybe. But the problem is funding, no government would do it because it would be a huge expenditure and once everything has been setup, they would have no income, as people would have no energy bills to pay and the Gov's would have no energy company to tax. If the world was detemined to do it, it could be done, but governments have to fund it and that is where it will stick. Maybe now the fight for a reliable, safe new energy source can begin again in ernest ? as I suspect that every country will now be having debates about their own nuclear industry. Thanks for the rep ;)

Oh yea, the waste is the problem part of nuclear energy, no country knows exactly what to do with it in the long term, they say we will bury it or we will do this with it etc, but nobody really has a clue asto what they really want to do with it, hoping that future generations will figure out the answer. The problem is that whilst greener alternatives and normal fuel alternatives are available, compared to nuclear, they are extremely expensive and in the case of newer greener types, they are not a real viable alternative because they dont produce enough electricity to take over the jobs of either oil/gas/coal burning power stations and hydro electric. I just pray that what has happened in Japan has been contained, but it doesnt look like it has, workers being evacuated from the plant, rising radiation. Japan doesnt deserve this, no country does. 1.02 here

I am hearing now that 17 US servicemen who were on a helicopter 100 miles out to sea have been zapped, they only found out when they landed on the US carrier that they had mid levels of radiation on their clothing as sensors on the carrier picked it up, and supposedly they werent anywhere near fukushima, I have no idea if thats been verified or not ? But saying all this, I am still a proponent of Nuclear Power, as it is remarkably safe energy option given the huge amounts of electricity it has generated over the years and, the huge number of reactors all over the world thats in operation today. A huge quake, multiple smaller quakes in the ranges of 6 and 7.0's, a tsunami and 2 huge explosions and yet the reactor confinement on all reactors is still intact, superb if you ask me, as this shows that the worst case scenario that is ever likely to happen to a nuke power plant, well a western one that is, whatever happens, its extremely unlikely to breach them. This could turn out to be the Japanese Dunkirk, victory snatched from the jaws of defeat ? which could then be shown around the world as advert on how safe nuclear reactors are, especially newer ones which have newer/better safety systems compared to something that is 40 years old.

LOL, what a man you are Dont get me started on Spar. You know the Spar on Mid Stocket road, basically across the road from BBC TV. I went in for a packet of cigarettes last year and the old biddy asked me for proof of age :| which I didnt have thus she wouldnt sell me cigarettes. It wouldnt be so bad had I not been 6 feet 6, the start of a beard growing as I hadnt shaved in 2 or 3 days and being nearly 40 years old, you only need to be 16 to be able to buy them legally in the uk. Dumb Biatch.

Wallhack :lol:

Yea Teej, I tried turning off the pc and leaving it off for ages and then rebooting back up into windows, the lights stay off. I then tried just a normal reboot when I was in windows, like you would do with a new driver install, once it rebooted the lights remained off. However, on my third attempt, which was shutdown pc, unplug the stick, both usb wires and then plug them in 30 seconds later, upon booting back into windows, the leds lit up with the exception of the 5 circles. So my mobo obviously powers the usb ports when shutdown and rebooting thus saving any settings I set for my stick, but if I unplug the throttle from the usb port, I need to redo the settings. It wont bother me as I leave my stick plugged in all the time, but I just posted this so that you know what the situation was at my end. Basically a 5 second usb unplug will reset the stick led settings, as you were already aware of.

BBC News 24 is reporting that Official news from Japan is reporting that the fuel rods from Reactor number 2 are "Fully Exposed" and no water is cooling it, as the water thats being continuously pumped into it, is leaking somewhere and not reaching the reactor. A Full meltdown is now more likely, however it should still be contained within the dome if a full meltdown happens. Even if the core melts through the concrete base of containment dome, which it is designed to do, the core will land on a bed of graphite which would let the core cool naturally whilst still preventing any fallout from escaping. Bad news that the rods are fully exposed, but good news that their is a contingency plan in the event of such a situation, which it was designed into the building when it was being built. I suspect that this one will fully meltdown, especially if the rods are exposed and water just isnt getting into the thing to cool it. Maybe the decay heat thats left isnt enough to actually melt the rods ? if it isnt, maybe some venting is all that will be needed to prevent the thing from rupturing due to the pressure ? Lets pray that they come up with something that works, as a full meltdown is a worst case situation that nobody wants, even though in theory it should all be contained safely, as it would be a major problem to cleanup. Fingers crossed that they can figure something out quickly to get water into the thing to start cooling it down.

Whoa, calm down, nobody is saying anything about it being apocalyptic or saying everything is a conspiracy or disbeliving everything. I dont subscribe to conspiracy theory websites. Nobody is assuming anything, well maybe you if you are assuming its actually safe. I am neither believing its safe or not safe because I dont know, we have been told that the reactors are intact and if they are, then things wont be hugely problematic, but their is more to a nuclear power plant than the reactors, hazardous material is everywhere. I have an opinion, which I believe is that it is not safe whether thats short term aka days, or long term, regardless of what the Japanese who are notoriously stingy when it comes to releasing "Real" information regarding their nuclear industry say. In the Uk nuclear industry which I had a very brief spell working in, I can assure you that what we see in Japan would end up in a total exlcusion zone for miles and unlikely for those zones to be lifted for a loong time, but I suppose thats another banana conspiracy theory. It's common sense that it isnt safe, 10 particles makes it "UNSAFE", apocalyptic no, related to 911, no, george bush did it, no, saddam hussein did it from beyond the grave, no, its just unsafe and WILL end up being cordoned off for a long time, you really dont have to be a scientist to understand that.

True, chernobyl was totally different, but its my opinion, however right or wrong that it is, that what is actually being said is totally different to what is actually happening in regards to the radiation situation. Also US helicopters are picking up radiation 60km away. I really suspect that the situation for radiation is far worse than what is being plastered all over the media, and if I was a betting man I would put money on the fact that the immediate area will now become uninhabitable and all seafood from within 10-20km banned from human consumption. Look at it from this point of view, where I worked, they would find single particles every now and then on the beach and it would shit them out and seafood from the area was totally banned, that was just a few SINGLE particles found on the beach next to the plant every now and then. Think of it like this also, say in your country, if what has just happened in japan, just the nuke part, if that that happened where you are, do you think your government would allow you to go back near it ??? nope, I think not. Going back to that beach with the "odd" single particles found now and then, they closed the entire beach to civilians, but whether that was due to the particles or the fact that they had been dumping waste directly into the sea on the sly is debatable, but they closed it and thats exactly whats going to happen in the immediate area next to that plant, whether for a year or a few years or long term, it is now a no go area for people.

When I say irradiated, I mean irradiated enough for it to not become habitable for years and fishing and eating seafood caught in the area to be banned, no way will that area be populated for a loooong time. I believe that the Japanese are not telling us the full story when it comes to the radiation, because the entire infrastructure is wasted in that area and if they start telling people that the radiation is massive, they are going to scare the population further and make the situation a hundred times worse by forcing the population to flee by themselves instead of an orderly evacuation. Remember chernobyl was totally irradiated, but it was still actively generating power til 2000 or thereabouts and still has people inside it working. The people who work in them plants, they will know that they cannot just leave, some will probably already be aware that what they are doing by trying to fix the situation will be the end of them, if they are lucky they will of suited up before it happened. For 7 months I worked at Dounreay dismantling the thing, it scared me enough to change jobs and never want to do something similar again. I seriously fear that we will only know the real story about how much radiation was released weeks from now.

Yea, it would be hard to give them up, but I wouldnt put it past public opinion to go against them especially knowing how anti nuke the Japanese are, anti nuke in regards to weapons I mean. Also I wouldnt put it past them to pour money into financing a greener solution, as if anyone can come up with a solution to the worlds energy crisis its Japan. I agree with the fusion problem, the Japanese are smart and it maybe takes something like this for a completely new technology to be born. To be honest with ya, I think the area around that nuke plant is toally irradiated, because ontop and outside of the concrete containment building, their is a pool of water with spent plutonium and uranium fuel ( like you see with other nuke plants, a large swimming pool type thing ), no way that survived the explosion since it wasnt inside the containment dome. That had to of been destroyed along with all the spent fuel.

Bloody hell, that was some powerful explosion, much more powerful than the first. I tell ya, if the reactors remained secure, you will have to hand it to the people who built these things, as it was a huge explosion that ripped the 3rd building apart and if they remain intact it is a testament to the over engineering that went into these things. I wonder if Japan will now choose to get rid of all their nuke plants in the longterm.

On TV in Japan now, No Tsunami detected ???? whats going on ? on bbc you could see a wave incoming and them saying Tsunami incoming, nobody knows what is going on over there, crazy situation.

Its a fukin shame, it really is, Japan is a Great Country, out of all the place in the world for it to happen, it picks Japan, what about all the other shitholes of the world that would be better off being destroyed and rebuilt from scratch...

Yup and an incoming Tsunami, you see the explosion on TV and the Tsunami incoming. WTF. This explosion looks worse than the first one as from the pictures I see, it looks to be venting something after the explosion, something that wasnt showing on the explosion on saturday. Fingers crossed that its just a similar explosion to the one on saturday and doesnt cause critical damage.

For sure, if an explosion large enough could wreck the concrete containment dome that the reactor is in, then the roof isnt gunna still be there after the explosion, thats a given, look at chernobyl, the reactor had a 2000 tone lid on top of it that got blown off, ok its a completely different design here, but the potential explosive forces are the same and if that happened then the roof wouldnt survive if it was still there and it wouldnt matter if the roof was still there, the game would be up and the roof would do very little to contain unrestricted radioactive release. But the roof isnt built to withstand explosions, the containment dome is, to a certain degree. The roof is just to prevent any leakages from within escaping outside. Leakages can come from anywhere and not necessarily directly from the reactor itself, example a steam pipe or coolant pipe fracture or an accident transferring spent materials, its things like that that the roof is meant for and only for the short term. It is in no way shape or form built to withstand an explosion, as the roof is designed to fall outward and not cave in to save it from damaging the containment dome below it in the event of one.

Just to add, my saitek combat pedal drivers wouldnt install either, but they work fine in windows and work ok in games. In sst I just select rudder pedals and you can fine tune them, but the drivers that are meant for the pedals just wouldnt install, they wouldnt allow me to push next.

I think nuclear power station designers/builders would beg to differ with you when you say it doesnt serve any type of containment purpose.

The lining that blew off is STILL containment however you look at it, the roof is hermetically sealed so that should their be any escape from the reactor, it would reside in there and be stopped from escaping, it would then be filtered out through filters which would catch the majority of radioactive particles. The reactor itself is still intact granted, but should their be any leakage/escape directly from the reactor vessel and then any leakeage from the huge chunk of concrete that it is confined in, the part that blew off which would of contained it, will not anymore. I cant see the problem why people think it isnt confinement, when it is exactly that and was built as that, ok a few things have to rupture first, the reactor lining and then the primary containment which hasnt as of yet happened, but the top of the building was specifically designed and built to contain any leakage. We all know what the explosion was caused by, well as far as what we are beign told by the japanese. From saturday morning we were told after the explosion that the reactor was safe and the explosion was likely to be hydrogen that had accumalted due to the cooling/venting process, so we know that it isnt a chernobyl style incident, but things can get alot worse, as pumping sea water into a nuke plant is a last resort which will render it unusable and in one of the reactors the 3rd one which is a plutonium/uranium type instead of just uranium, the seawater that they are pumping in as a last resort might not be getting to where it needs to be getting to in order to cool it down, and supposedly BBC news 24 is saying that the fuel rods in the 3rd reactor are showing, not sure if thats confirmed as of yet or not. So the situation is very much not under control and loss of any type of confinement is a bad situation. Containment doesnt need to be concrete and steel metres thick, all it needs to be is steel a few cm's thick and sealed to stop air/particles escaping. Example, a MBT's NBC system, positive air keeping outside air from entering and contaminating the crew, a system similar to that but in reverse.

I know it wasnt the reactor, it was just a figure of speech. Actually, what blew up IS the containment building, the roof and top 1/3rd of it anyway, the core is still intact so they say. That building was hermetically sealed to contain any leakage from the actual reactor inside, hence it being called the containment building, without the buildings roof, any leakage from the reactor can now not be contained inside the plant, it would vent straight outside, with the roof and top third of the building intact, any leak from the reactor would be contained in the building so long as it wasnt a major leak, but that is now not possible since it blew up yesterday. So if the primary containment aka the thing the reactor is built into is breached, it now has no secondary containment to atleast limit the amount of radioactive material escaping into the atmoshpere, admittedly losing the secondary containment isnt as bad as losing the primary, but in this situation when the problem isnt yet under control, its a major concern.

HB Joey ;)

2 more nuke reactors in possible meltdown situation as the cooling has failed and pumping in sea water to cool one of them, they are not sure the water is getting to it for some reason, and that reactor is a plutonium/uranium one, much worse than the one that blew up yesterday. Also a new power plant, not fukushima is now causing problems, breaking news as of 14.04gmt No details as of yet except that radiation has been detected at it outside.

Not True, whatever I set my LEDS for in TARGET 1.0, regardless if I turn the PC off, or just reboot, it stays at what I set it at. I dont use TARGET at all for anything other than the LED control, but as mentioned, if I set LEDS off in TARGET, then the LEDS stay off when pc is powered off completely or if I reboot, same with if I turn the LEDS on, apart from that I never use target for anything. Although some people are having problems, probably due to the firmware not liking certain mobos, but I suspect the way that it works on my stick is how it is intended to work with everyone ? as it is working perfect for me fingers crossed it stays like that.

I have no idea other than what I said above, sorry.