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Actually you could and did. (just correcting info - not flaming or anything) In those days there were no two seat trainers for fighters like the P-51, Hellcat, Corsair and P-47 etc. Most of the trainers available at that time were far less powerful as well, and often biplanes. But the skills you learnt through basic and advanced flight school were sufficient that you could study the manual, get a spot of ground school, and jump right in. RAF pilots went from Tiger Moth biplanes straight to Spitfires and Hurricanes. Early USAAC/USN pilots often came straight from Stearman biplanes onto fighters. If they were lucky they might get a 2nd line P-40 or Wildcat to try out first. As the war progressed T-6 trainers more akin to fighters performance wise were used. But even so you went from one of them straight into the cockpit of your new mount alone - be it Hellcat or Mustang. So giving a Hellcat pilot a Mustang is even easier than giving it to a fresh faced T-6 pilot as the Hellcat is nearer in performance and his hours and experience on the Hellcat stand him in good stead for the Mustang. Jump in, start up, take-off, do a circuit and land. If not - well you get a free miltary burial.

Just did a startup and take-off anda bit of a buzz the city. Suddenly my engine quit. Switched tanks - as had run one dry before - but nothing. Crashed as too low to recover. looked in the debreif and it says I was shot by my own side with a 12.7mm round. Ooops I think I must have hacked someone off with my low level buzzing... Saved the mision so will have a look for the swine that did it. methinks next time I will put some 0.5in into him!

Just watched you new track. You almost have it. Which is impressive with an XBox controller. As good as I did with a fancy joystick. All you need to do is pull back a bit on the stick at the start of the take-off run to lock tailwheel steering, and to do the same on landing. This will help limit the swerving and help prevent the ground loop on landing.

Hi Soulres, Only had the DCS P-51 a couple of days, so still getting used to the handling. But I can say without a shadow of a doubt that she is a lot lot lot more difficult than the A-10 or any of the other jets. The A-10 is largely point and go no fuss whatsoever. A few minor adjustments as she starts the roll, but straight on after that. With the P-51 she want's to roll and swerve due to that dirty great big prop. You have to keep on top of it with small subtle movements to counteract tendancies before they take hold and run wild. Bring the control position box up and comapre the small but constant movements to yours. On your track you are slamming the rudder left and right and once it catches the wrong moment you exacerbate rather than calm the situation and swerve off. Though it looks worse from the cockpit than it does from outside. Remember that P-51 pilots had done 50+ hours in various taildragging trainers of ever increasing power - stearman and T6 etc., before they even stepped in a cockpit. So had become accustomed to the swerve on take-off and how to counteract it. the P-51 was just more powerful and thus more swervy than what they had already flown. This is real power - that of an RC airplane pales in comparison even if scaled up. An RC is more akin to the Tiger moth or other trainer in it's stabiltiy comapred to a beast like the Mustang. You really do need to tame it to ride it. Track 1: take off in and P-51. p-51_to_2.trk A messy swervy take-off (hey, i'm learning!) and an even messier landing (floating in too high due to clearing the trees and bounce baby bounce!). P.s. Watch for the bus as I cross the threshold. Daft place for a bus lane!

A keyboard for all controls, or just the rudder? If all then I would recommend getting a joystick - even a cheap basic one. it will make the world of diference. If just the rudder then try with rudder asssit and take-off asssitance in the Options > Special > P-51 section. That may help to smooth things out The P-51 is a totally diferent beast to the jets. Masses of torque etc. twisting the plane around, coupled with a hands on flying approach. Even trimmed it requires constant attention. The jets have no appreciable torque, and flight stability systems so are much more easy to fly straight and level. Just be glad it is not the Sopwith camel - that was an unstable beast that killed almost as many pilots flying it as it shot down enemy planes.

I added rudder and brakes in last night, so axis assigment worked for me. Possibly fixed in the latest patch?

This raises another issue too. One that plagued Il2 - super trimmed max speed AI. The AI there often had perfectly trimmed and set up planes that frequently outran you on takeoff, and could be difficult to catch up as they flew everywhere max speed perfectly trimmed and never slowed down to cruise speed for you to catch up. The P-51's in this mission are suposed to be the same as we fly, But they totaly out perform us. You can't even catch up with them in a lead pursuit. It may be that we need some AS (Artificial Stupidity) to go with the AI to calm down AI performance so it is not always 100% efficient at engine management all the time, and don't run everywhere full speed. (ED - ask your flight mechanics what they would do to a pilot that flew like that...)

I have a little trim box I use. I noted that when I set the trim up they all needed to be inverted in order to move the same way as the trim wheels. I checked with a normal control and yep - movement is inverted. For example set the nose down nose up elevator trim (you can your throttle if you don't have a handy back forth slider or wheel) and watch the movement of the wheel compared to the controller. Although we can invert the axis to correct it it might be worth considering, given it is still Beta, to swap them round in code so they are correct by default.

I tried it with my pedals and didn't see any issue. Have you checked your controls set up? Can you see any major diference with the controls position box up?

Oh excellent - been after the B17 and B25 ones for a while (have the rest of them).

Flaps often have multiple settings - 5, 10, 15 ... up to 30 etc. In effect a series of bands rather than a totally variable setting like the throttle. In sims we have two ways to handle flaps - use an axis (which the sim can interpret either directly as % of operation or banded) or use a set of +/- max up/max down keys to enable flap movement via the keyboard. Both options co-exist side by side for use as the simmer themselves desires. So why not do the same for the Mixture lever. It may only have three detents, but it opertes in a simialr physical manner -and more importantly have banded input rather than a straight on/off operation that a switch has. This has three advantages: 1) People can use whatever they prefer - axis or buttons. 2) Homebuild pits can use a physical lever rather than a bunch of buttons. 3) Other aircraft with further detents (Corsair + P-47 with four etc.) or a full axis mixture lever can be modelled much easier if an increase/decrease keys + axis system is used.

Must admit it made me laugh after crashing a couple of times to find him doing it too.

Nice - sort of a guided missle version of the Small Diameter Bomb. Would also be useful for using up stocks of old Sidewinders as well. And possibly cheaper than a new air to ground guided munition as you just need the seeker.

Just a pity he missed the target.... Just kidding - lovely video.

I think the download is swamped - hence the 'arg too many connections....:cry:can't cope......:mad: whats the password:helpsmilie:' behaviour. Should be fine once the red hot and glowing interweb cools down a little. You'll be downloading and flying in no time :pilotfly:

Reading that I was reminded of the crazy metaller trying to shuffle away from the police in Pick of Destiny. Hits full mil. "Come on Migs - catch me now!". Migs flash past. "Damn!" Wasn't it a strike eagle that got a kill that way in Desert Storm?

It is very easy to loose the autopilot and end up having to fly and do the training. Which makes life fun when you need to spend time head down looking for switches. Even looking at the stick seems to break autopilot at times. Maybe the app should take control during those parts - i.e. hard lock the autopilot on during those parts so that any controller wobble, spiking or button mashing will not result in immediate loss of Autopilot.

Least you got a well done. I did a reaonable turn and flew off into the wild blue yonder without so much as a comment from the instructor. I had to dive down to 'break' the limits before he said 'crap - try it again. Once again did it reasonably well, but got the 'crap again - RTB'.

The PMDG 747's for FSX allow you to click on the control column and it shifts to let you see the front panel better. Such a system could possibly work for the A-10C. I.e. an option that shifts the stick down a bit and back a bit to allow you to see those switches easily.

Glad you got it sorted. For extra nerd points - Bin is short for 'binary data file'. The raw computer numbers numbers that are not meant to be read, as compared to say a text file.

It is true, seen the photos and read the details in several books on Eagles. Was also the subject of a Nat Geographical type documentary if I recall. Was an Israeli F-15 on training that impacted with an A-4. Google for: F-15 one wing and be amazed.. Details and images here - http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_WtnYwFZtgHI/RkUeI3TKY5I/AAAAAAAAACI/tNWoYdrjiOw/s320/F15-1.JPG&imgrefurl=http://duoquartuncia.blogspot.com/2007/05/landing-f15-with-only-one-wing.html&usg=__TdTdDtPLxGnOhh_tOWwSiEd8t3U=&h=240&w=320&sz=17&hl=en&start=10&um=1&itbs=1&tbnid=PZ0MqOXD01cGoM:&tbnh=89&tbnw=118&prev=/images%3Fq%3DF-15%2Bone%2Bwing%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26sa%3DX%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-GB:official%26tbs%3Disch:1

Yep, so what ever you do don't mention that fact in the court martial...:music_whistling:

Cheers. FC2 clearly shows the desire, drive and pride that is all too sadly missing in most of the games software industry.

Got the Logitech G940 and twin engines works fine in that. Had the F-15 in afterburners and could throttle either in out of burner, so definately works with G940.

Yep, it is a bit sensitive. Now I just need to spend a few hours setting up all the commands...