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I must admit I am watching this one very closely. I would love it if AMD really came through on this one. The larger memory bus width is what is grabbing my attention, quite excited.

Thank you for all the replies. This forum section rarely lets you down does it. It was a little awkward as he is in Florida, and I am in the UK. He has them working now, not sure what exactly was the key. However, the TARGET software, some powered USB hubs and mapping the third MFD manually in the FA-18 controls has done the trick. So, if you get shot down by Phillip on growlers or similar, it's your own fault you helped get his controls working, LOL! Thanks for the replies.

Hi guys, I have a little Discord group and one guy is having trouble setting up x3 TM MFD's on his system. I think its an Asus Z690 Prime motherboard DDR5 version so the rear USB ports are a little limited. I recommended a powered USB hub. The problem he is having is both Windows 11 and DCS are only able to see x2 of the MFD's though a Corsair Headset Stand USB hub, (non powered). In Windows it see's MFD 1, MFD 1, MFD 2. In DCS it looks like two of the MFD's will put in the same input on the controls options page. The inputs from x2 of the MFD's ghost one another. Does anyone have any idea's to help solve this and get all x3 MFD's seen as separate controllers? Appreciate any help with this.

It will be very interesting to see how this compares to the 5900x and DDR4. Bitmaster is right there, the DDR5 does not scale well or have guaranteed compatibility when using x4 sticks as we have seen so far with Intel Z690. How it works with AMD's new design is yet to be seen as far as I know. I would have got 2x32gb sticks just to be sure.

If the monitor has a proper USB built in it should work just fine. on the flip side I know Track IR prefers a powered USB hub or a direct connection into the motherboard IO at the back. it all depends on how much power goes through the monitors hub.

Pretty much everything that Lucshep said. Its only my opinion but running DCS with a 60fps cap in the Nvidia control panel while using a G-sync monitor looks just fine. I use a 3090 with a 60hz 4k TV right now. It will also reduce the workload of the GPU and save on your electric bill a bit. However your kit gives you the ability to set a frame rate cap anywhere between 48-144fps. You almost have too much choice. Just from having a good experience with DCS on 60hz monitors before I usually cap at 60fps. The other thing you can do if your worried about load on your GPU is set a clock speed cap along with a voltage cap in MSI Afterburner. I use 1950Mhz @ 0.950mv. My 3090 runs a lot cooler too.

The one thing that is different about flight sims compared to fps games is that 60fps is fine. So if that is all your going to do a 60hz monitor is fine also. 4K is amazing visually but target spotting becomes much more difficult. I would say a 32" 1440p monitor is the sweet spot for DCS. A nice balance between visuals and playability. You can go new and get a 3060/3060ti or better. Or you can go used of somewhere like eBay, something like a 2060/2070 super would be good.

Hi there, I am in the UK and very familiar with Scan and Overclockers. For DCS your CPU, Dram and motherboard setup wont change much. However when we talk about the resolution you will use. Then that changes the power DCS requires from the graphics card and then in turn the power supply comes into play. A PC to last 5 years, in reality "maybe" but really honestly no chance, not with how fast it all evolves nowadays. 3 years is possible. No such thing as future proofing. So I will give you a minimum build to start on. To start a case with decent cooling and at least x2 intake fans and x1 exhaust fan. For the CPU an AMD 5600x cooled with a basic aftermarket air cooler, or a Intel 12600k cooled with a 240mm AIO (all in one water cooler). For AMD a B550 motherboard, for Intel a Z690 DDR4 version. For the Dram 2x16gb (32gb) of 3200Mhz C16, you can add two more matching pairs later. That will only be needed for multiplayer and even then only if its one that has 12+ players on at one time. Ok onto the graphics and resolution. The actual size of the monitor does not affect the performance and how hard your computer has to work. That affects clarity of the image. Its the resolution that makes you need a more powerful gpu. For 1080p an Nvidia 3060 or AMD 6600 (med-high settings). For 1440p an Nvidia 3070 AMD 6700xt same settings. If you have a monitor now you want to use, please post the model number it will help. If your just starting out and budget is an issue. I would probably go with AMD, for flat panel it does really well in DCS and can hold 60fps in most busy multiplayer servers. Please feel free to send me a private message if you need any further help.

Send it back under warranty, the powered USB advise is common. However I have a X-56 and mine works best if I plug it into the back of the motherboard. If I dont I get ghosting on the throttle.

It will probably start to bottleneck a bit. However you are already running a 1080ti. You might need a 850w PSU for the 3080ti. The Dram upgrade is a no brainer if you can get matching sticks.

I know for a fact, a small phone call to Scan or Overclockers UK and those guys will put whatever you want together. You can have any motherboard you want fitted. Just need to give them a phone call or email.

Couldn't agree more. Running the stock Nvidia algorithm the voltages can go upto 1.1Mv which can make it unnecessarily toastie. Almost all Nvidia GPU from the 1080 to the 3090ti can do roughly 1950Mhz at 0.975Mv which will save you peak wattage and temps. Play around with it to find your sweet spot but that a good starting point.

HI mate, If your going with Scan UK you are in good hands, they really do know what they are doing. I recently had to do a Corsair RMA through them and they were like lightning with it. Cooling a decent Air or 240mm AIO Case your choice, its aesthetic, if Scan say it will do the job it will. Just get one that lets air in! I would go with 2x 1tb Nvme ssd's on the Z690 M2 slots. One for Windows and a Steam folder, the other solely for DCS. Gen 3 vs Gen 4 doesn't matter I tested it a lot makes no difference to DCS load times or performance. I have Window on a gen4 and DCS on a gen3. It runs super smooth. Motherboard I usually go with MSI simply for the USB's at the back IO, they offer more than Asus. I dont know about DDR5 speed or latencies really. I would shoot for the middle and go Corsair if it was me. My recent Corsair RMA was for a failed led light!

I was running DCS at 4k resolution in multiplayer at a solid 60fps on high settings. Thats flying high and down low, it makes a difference. Running a 5600x and a 3090. When you increase the resolution or go VR. You need an Nvidia 3080 or better to get a solid framerate on high settings. The CPU, does not matter so much as long as the memory controller is good enough to handle 64gb. Which almost all can nowadays. A 12600k on a DDR4 motherboard would be fine, then pump your funds into a GPU and power supply that can support it. If I was building a PC for DCS tomorrow it would be 12600k or AMD 5800x, 64gb DDR4 and a 3080 or better.

If you are going to buy one over an own build. Contact Scan UK or Overclockers UK, both are very capable and reputable. I have built my own for over 20 years, but if I needed one built I would go to one of these guys.

Really glad to hear you enjoying it Buzz, take it easy mate.

Hi mate, Thats quite a jump from a 3060 to a 6950xt. As I said on private messaging. If I knew a target budget I could help you more. Also to know if you want to use VR or the resolution of a flat panel you plan to use I'm shooting in the dark without that information.

I would love one but dont have the dollars right now. I use a Hisense 43" 4k and thats pretty good so the LG Oled can only be better.

Hi WildBill, Please feel free to send me a PM message and I can advise you on this. Whats the intended purpose of the PC please. If it is for DCS can you tell me the resolution od the monitor you intend to us. I'll be straight with you, if it is for DCS the GTX 1060 6Gb might need to be the first thing you want to upgrade. DCS is a GPU intensive game now. CPU and clock speed does not matter so much. It is still important. If I was you take a look at this. AMD 5600x, X570 or B550 for mobo, 32gb DDR4 3200C16, cool the 5600x with a Vetroo V5 air cooler. The GPU upgrade to a Nvidia RTX 3060 or better if you can for DCS on high settings. Intel is still good and slightly ahead of AMD right now. In my opinion though the lead they have over AMD is not worth what it costs in setup prices energy/watts and heat/temps.

Yep, what Hiob said... Resolution is the number 2560x1440 for an example, pixels across, pixels up/down. The refresh rate of the monitor is basically how high the monitor can refresh the image per second. So how this translates, if your gaming at 144fps on a game, but your PC is plugged into a 60hz monitor its pointless because the monitor cant really show your eyes 144fps. However like you BUZZ, "IF" you want to fly in DCS with a constant and solid 60fps, very good for a smooth flight sim experience. On a 165hz monitor this is fine because the monitor can show "UPTO" 165fps. This is where you would take advantage of the variable refresh rate technology, or, G-Sync. In your monitor. You can lock DCS at 60fps, 75fps or 90fps and it will synchronise with that monitor perfectly. NO stuttering or screen tearing. Search Google for an example image of this. I would recommend running DCS at the Native resolution, 2560x1440. Then in the Nvidia control panel set a maximum fps for DCS. 60fps is generally perfect for any flight sim. It stops your system working harder than it has to constantly.

A 3090 is overkill unless your going to go 4k or a high resolution VR headset. A 3090 is overkill for a lot of games. I can say for a fact DCS can push a 3090. Before the high end 30 series cards you could use DCS at 4k if you were willing to sacrifice a few graphics setting, shadows, SSAA, 4x MSAA or just accept the game running below 60fps.

4k is a whole other ball game to get a constant 60fps + on high settings. A 3080 can do it with a little tweak if it has very good cooling, you really want a 3080ti or a 3090.

Basically Buzz a 1080p monitor has 2 million-ish pixels and they get shared over how large your screen is. 21" for example. A 1440p monitor is about 3 million-ish pixels, so it gives an image with more detail. You will enjoy it I am sure.

As Lucshep said, impossible to say without knowing the resolution of the monitor. A rough guide for DCS using Nvidia at least is 1080p>3060, 1440p>3070 and 4k>3080 or better.

Hi Keith, that all looks pretty solid. Come back on if you need any help with anything.