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No Buzz, Those synthetic cpu scores dont resemble actual differences in gaming performance. The 12700k Intel chip is much faster than the AMD 5800x chip. HOwever if you want to run your hunting games, DCS and some other games at 60fps it wont make any difference. Let me try to explain it to you this way. I use a 5900x cpu, it has x12 of the same cores the 5800x has x8 of. Most games only use x2 of those cores anyway, some use x4. Hardly any fully utilise a modern multi core cpu. So my 5900x when I am playing DCS is only really pushing x2 out of its x12 cores. Even then on an intense multi player server flying low over all of the trees I see about 75% usage on one core and about 65% usage on the other. Thats as hard as DCS is ever going to ask it to work. That is how I know that you will be just fine using a 5800x. You only need the best cpu you can get if you want to get as many fps out of a game as you can. I dont advise you doing that at all. I advise you to lock your games to use V-sync using a 60hz 1440p monitor and let the software take care of the rest. Your 5800x will perform in games as fast as my 5900x, I dont feel the need to buy the latest Intel 12700k. The memory is not faster either. Its DDR5 for the Intel and DDR4 for the AMD. Again in the games you will play you will notice absolutely 0.00% difference. You could get a 3070 if you want, but if you want all the eye candy in DCS get a 3080. However if you are happy with a little and I do mean little compromise on the graphics in DCS. Get the 3070. Me I would get the 3080, A 5800x with 32gb of DDR4 and a 3080 is a serious gaming machine by todays standards. I will tell you what I tell a lot of people. You can spend a lot of money you dont need to spell bound by specs and number. Do you "NEED" it though. The Intel is faster no denying that, I dont think you need it, I dont think you would ever use it.

Have you looked at the videos I sent you? The AMD build will be perfect for what you want. You won't gain that much going with the Intel system. The 5800x is an excellent and solid CPU. The AMD 5000 series is so tested now there is very little to go wrong.

Yeah two problems with me choosing a pre-built for you. I've built my own for over 20 years and im in the UK. Please take this advise though. DO NOT buy a system from a company that users their OWN BRANDED products. Make sure they make very very clear who's parts are going into your system. Using OWN BRAND parts is a way all PC builders hide lower spec parts in a system they build.

Buzz please check your private message inbox... I did check the link, I would not buy from them either after reading that.

Buzz, dude if your having that much trouble. Please feel free to send me a private message. It will ping on my email, i'll come back on and respond. Get you up and running. Can anyone in the USA let me know any bad reviews or experiences from such as Origin PC, Cyberpower or Alienware. I haven't come across any bad experiences from friends in the USA.

Buzz trust me on this, its all moving along so fast even I struggle to keep up. That system will be fine for 3-4 years using the games you play mate. It will probably be out of date and you will want to swap parts before anything burns out. Thats a few years away though and the forum will be here to ask for advise.

I'm in Windows 11, dont believe the doom mongers DCS is fine. Straight up. A 1TB Nvme for Windows, DCS and some hunting games. Thats not overkill its about right. I have x2 of them. A 1000w power supply with the 30 series Graphic cards is no bad idea. I run a 3090 on a 850w but I am very experienced building and looking after PC systems. I would have probably put a 1000w one in for you. Please let us know how you get on Buzz, i'd like to know mate.

Buzz, with that extra info, maybe look at a 27-32" 2560x1440 60hz IPS monitor. That will give you a quality image while being very sharp. You can connect it with a Display Port or HDMi cable, it doesn't matter mate. For all those games it will pair up with your GPU very nicely. An IPS monitor will probably give you the best image for your hunting sims, are they the ones by Expansive Worlds?

Viewsonic, LG, Acer and AOC do some nice monitors. You can go higher with 144-165hz monitors. If it is just for DCS a 60hz, ie for 60fps monitor is fine. Like Headwarp said its up to you on the size but with monitors you can spend 200-600. For the minimum maybe 2560x1440p 60hz your GPU will drive that perfectly. You wont "need" VRR tech like Freesync or Gsync. Just lock it to Vsync in the DCS settings and thats it really.

Hector has made a good point there, I had a 6800xt, not great for 4k which is what I wanted. However, when I had 1440p it was perfect for it. Power usage, temps everything. My 3090 would be a total overkill and use more power than I needed. For 1080p this reason can only be greater.

That looks fine, its a brilliant spec, if your happy with the price it will give you a great DCS experience.

I totally understand Buzz and I dont blame you either. The cheapest but most capable gaming setup you can get is based on AMD 5600x, Intel is a few dollars more cased on a 12600k DDR4 system. If your at 1080p and happy with that a 3060ti will be more than enough. 1440p you want something like a 3070 really. Best of luck mate and I hope you get the system you want. One final thing though, if someone builds a computer for you. It is best to make sure each component has its own brand, Corsair for an example. Not something rubbish the builder has had branded for them. They will have bought those from the cheapest competitor.

Buzz for $2200ish with some shopping around you should be able to build a 1440p capable gaming PC with a monitor, its not that hard to have a go yourself, feels like it is but once you get going. If you were in the UK I would advise Scan UK all day long. I'm guessing USA, you could try Origin custom PC configurator? Never used them though.

Hi Buzz, I think a reply I made in a previous thread could be helpful..... check here and here mate.

That all looks normal mate, I have a 3090 and cannot get stable 60fps with this setting "SSAA x1.5". Try no SSAA and use MSAAx4 or MSAAx2 with MFAA enabled in Nvidia Control Panel. Your temps look ok too.

Depending on where you are in the world you could look at used stuff and save yourself even more, up to you if you have the experience for it. 5600x on B550 using one of the Vetroo V5 coolers is about a cheap a decent setup as you can get right now. Just put it in a case with a couple of decent intake fans and your done. Do just fine for DCS. The 12600k is a faster CPU but if you dont "need" it whats the point. If you have the money to get the best then that would be 12700k using Z690 or a AMD 58003DX using X570.

Ala12Rv, yeah a mid range B-550 mobo with a connection compatible for your current ssd and a 5600x will do you just fine. Double check ddr4 capacity too but you should be just fine on that. I had one of those cheaper Vetroo V5 coolers on a 5600x, worked a treat for DCS. I have seen the same reports and video's concerning AMD issues. I have seen others for Intel too. I'm on a 5900x and X-570S I have seen no issues in Win 10 or 11. If you have the money and you want Intel get a 12600k and a Z690 DDR4 motherboard, difference is that it will cost you more. Both will work just fine. Might need a better cooler as the Intel chip will run a bit warmer. This is the thing the Intel chip will have a higher performance score, it can do more calcs per second. You dont need it for DCS.

Dude if its for DCS and your on a budget have a look at this, AMD 5600x using a Vetroo V5 cooler, 32-64gb DDR4 3200Mhz C16 and a B550 motherboard. Before you doubt the 5600x, I had one coupled with my 3090 for a while and it ran DCS 4k@60fps no problem on a mix of high/max settings. +1 on what Hiob said, AMD 3000 or 5000 series CPU's will NOT I repeat NOT give you framerate drops in DCS.

Dude if you running DCS without a framerate cap the amount of electricity the 3090 will pull on will be roughly the same. Regardless of what resolution your using. Or it will be as high as your CPU can go to keep up with the 3090, so your CPU will consume more electric. I own a 3090 on water with a 5900x. If I dont use a framerate cap, whether I use 1080p, 1440p or 4k, the difference in electric my PC as a unit pulls from the wall is about 30 watts. Then you have to consider the 3090 requires a certain amount of electric to just run a game, any game on any settings. The lowest I can get mine to pull is about 140 watts with a 60 fps cap. What I can tell you for DCS on max settings system usage at 60fps, 1080p 210-140watts, 1440p 230-310watts, 4k 290-380watts. Those are close enough, thats a 5900x, 64gb DDR4 and a 3090 on water. If I were you I would buy a 42-43" 4k TV and a headtracker and enjoy the magic of DCS at that detail.

Ok to enjoy DCS, CPU, and AMD 5600x/5800x or an Intel 12600k Motherboard, Asus, Gigabyte or MSi B550 or X570 for the AMD, I used a X570 MSI Gaming Edge Wifi and it was excellent. For Intel it will a Z690, I would go for DDR4 version. Whatever you get one with a decent amount of rear USB ports, you will need them for Hotas and pedals Memory 64gb of DDR4 3200Mhz C16, any of them will work If its only for the Operating System and DCS get a 1tb Nvme Pcie 4.0 Gen 4 SSD, you can get a second at a later date if needed or a sata ssd for a steam folder etc etc. This is something you can add to later on. Graphics, Nvidia 3070 or a AMD 6750xt for 1440p@60fps in DCS Cooling a reputable 240mm AIO. There are a few but Corsair's are solid enough. The case thats a personal choice. You want something with 2x 120mm intakes if not more, a roof space for the 240mm AIO and a rear 120mm fan. Corsair, NZXT, Phanteks are all very good. A decent 650-750w gold rated PSU. Your budgeting, I have used the Corsair HX semi modular range. I have a 850w powering my 5900x 3090 rig. For you monitor I play DCS @60fps so that 60hz in monitor speak...I can recommend something like a 32" AOC Q32E2N or Viewsonic vx3211-2k. I have used both, they are both good. Add a headtracker to look around and your sorted. I got these prices off Amazon USA, please remember I am in the UK... 5600x, $190 or 5800x, $300. MSI X570 Gaming Edge, $165. EVGA 3070 FTW3, $680. 64gb DDR4, $200. {Cooling 240AIO $80-120 or Vetroo V5 Air cooler $35.00} 1tb Sabrent Rocket 4.0 NVME, $130. Corsair RM 750x $150. Case {Corsair 4000d or NZXT H510 flow, $120-140} Pick your own those are guides. Viewsonic VX3211 1440p monitor $280. Thats $2165 on the high side if you build it yourself. Thats leaves you $500 for Hotas etc over the Apex PC Now this is all advise, please check reviews. You would have to put this together yourself but its ok once you get started, plenty of videos on Youtube. If you want to play first person shooters at 120fps, you would need a different monitor. This is all to have a great experience gaming on DCS. As a guide check this video out, dont take it personally that a kids building it LOL! Its just a good guide video.

HI Stan, I'm a bit stuck as i'm in the UK, I presume your in the USA. I build PC's for friends gaming setups quite often. I'm not sure of whats available and what stores to use. For example if you were in the UK I would say go to Scan UK. If this is only for DCS you dont really need a 144hz monitor this is because DCS looks fine at 60fps. However if your going to play on some FPS games you might need that high refresh rate monitor. If its for DCS I can recommend a few to you. Viewsonic, Acer, AOC, LG and Samsung all do very good 1440p monitors. What I would advise is whatever you are looking at, type the brand and model number into a search engine, look for reviews. Please feel free to send me a PM if you get stuck for an answer. However like Bitmaster has, I'm sure members like Lucshep, Skatezilla and SVSmokey to name a few will send you a reply. There advise is as solid as any other mate. All knowledgeable guys. If all else fails, we can put together a shopping list for you and you could walk in a Micro Center and pick it all up.

Hi Stan, what resolution monitor would you like to use for DCS. Or are you planning on using VR? I dont use VR but that setup will be great for DCS at 1080p or 1440p resolution. Also if your planning on playing multiplayer, 64gb of DDR4 would be better.

Thanks Max Thunder for the response. I have 64gb now and have seen between 36-42gb of usage in DCS multiplayer, so well worth the upgrade.

Hi Sorata, If you have a fast cpu/dram combo and a GPU with plenty of Dram. 32gb will probably be ok. Why dont you try it, hop on the "through the inferno" Syria server, when it has a few players on. Then use MSI Afterburner to check you Dram and Vram usage. You will know for sure if you need the extra 32gb. I honestly dont know how running it at those speeds will effect it though. Download and install the latest MSI Afterburner and then customise the Overlay display to show "actual" dram and vram usage. Go into settings then monitoring. Check the following "memory usage/process" for both vram and dram. One is near the top of the list the other is down the bottom.

If it is for DCS only and on Win 11. I recently upgraded to 64gb, 3600Mhz C18. I play single and multi player at 4k maxed settings. Going from 32>64gb definitely reduced some stuttering in multiplayer. I don't go near the full 64gb though, maybe touch the high 40's in gb usage at most. However that is rare, must of the time its about 34-38gb in multiplayer.