The_Pharoah Posted March 1, 2015 Posted March 1, 2015 Hi guys For the future of DCS WW2, we will definitely need medium bombers. So my question is, what medium bomber should we get first? ie. 1. DeHavilland Mosquito 2. B25 Mitchell 3. A20 Havoc 4. B26 Marauder 5. Bristol Beaufighter 6. HE-111 7. JU-88 Obviously I'm focusing mainly on the allied side however most of the above (save for probably the Beaufighter) served on the Western Front so would fit in with the Normandy map. 1 AMD AM4 Ryzen7 3700X 3.6ghz/MSI AM4 ATX MAG X570 Tomahawk DDR4/32GB DDR4 G.Skill 3600mhz/1TB 970 Evo SSD/ASUS RTX2070 8gb Super
SilentGun Posted March 1, 2015 Posted March 1, 2015 B-25 or an He-111. I love those two! Link to my Imgur screenshots and motto http://imgur.com/a/Gt7dF One day in DCS... Vipers will fly along side Tomcats... Bugs with Superbugs, Tiffy's with Tornado's, Fulcrums with Flankers and Mirage with Rafales... :)The Future of DCS is a bright one:)
airdoc Posted March 2, 2015 Posted March 2, 2015 The Mossie is already on VEAO's roadmap. My guess is that it should be released in 2016. I haven't seen any post from ED or a 3rd party about other medium (or any kind of) bombers. The three best things in life are a good landing, a good orgasm, and a good bowel movement. The night carrier landing is one of the few opportunities in life to experience all three at the same time.
Crumpp Posted March 2, 2015 Posted March 2, 2015 B26 Marauder It was a large part of ETO medium bomber force in 1944. Answers to most important questions ATC can ask that every pilot should memorize: 1. No, I do not have a pen. 2. Indicating 250
Vampyre Posted March 2, 2015 Posted March 2, 2015 You know that the Mossy, Beau and A-20 are not considered medium bombers right? Mossy is a Light Bomber/Fighter-Bomber, Beau is a Fighter-Bomber and A-20 is an Attack/Light Bomber. The B-26 Marauder needs to happen. Truly superior pilots are those that use their superior judgment to avoid those situations where they might have to use their superior skills. If you ever find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck! "If at first you don't succeed, Carrier Landings are not for you!"
gavagai Posted March 2, 2015 Posted March 2, 2015 Which medium bomber? The P-38! :smilewink: P-51D | Fw 190D-9 | Bf 109K-4 | Spitfire Mk IX | P-47D | WW2 assets pack | F-86 | Mig-15 | Mig-21 | Mirage 2000C | A-10C II | F-5E | F-16 | F/A-18 | Ka-50 | Combined Arms | FC3 | Nevada | Normandy | Straight of Hormuz | Syria
MiloMorai Posted March 2, 2015 Posted March 2, 2015 It was a large part of ETO medium bomber force in 1944. That should be VERY large part.... 9th Bombardment Div on Nov 11 1944: 8 BG of B-26s 2 BG of A-26s 1 BG of A-20s Afaik only the RAF used the B-25 in the ETO.
panzerd18 Posted March 2, 2015 Posted March 2, 2015 Ju-88, because 15,000+ of them were made. Much more than any of the aircraft on the list. It could level bomb, it could dive bomb, it could be fitted as a heavy fighter/night fighter, and launch torpedoes.
The_Pharoah Posted March 2, 2015 Author Posted March 2, 2015 You know that the Mossy, Beau and A-20 are not considered medium bombers right? Mossy is a Light Bomber/Fighter-Bomber, Beau is a Fighter-Bomber and A-20 is an Attack/Light Bomber. The B-26 Marauder needs to happen. Yeah I know but they sort of fit into that category ie. medium bomber / heavy fighter. The B26 classified as a medium bomber carried something like 2,500lbs of bombs whereas the Mossie carried up to 4,000lbs of bombs! The reason I included the Mossie/A20/Beau/etc is to provide some sort of gun platform rather than just a pure bomber so that you could do further stuff like: 1. anti shipping strikes 2. normal bombing 3. night fighter A good example is the B25G/H with either lotsa .50 cals or cannon. It just gives you the ability to use the one aircraft on multiple mission types as compared to say the heavy bomber like the B24/B17/etc AMD AM4 Ryzen7 3700X 3.6ghz/MSI AM4 ATX MAG X570 Tomahawk DDR4/32GB DDR4 G.Skill 3600mhz/1TB 970 Evo SSD/ASUS RTX2070 8gb Super
Harpoon Posted March 2, 2015 Posted March 2, 2015 I've always had a lust for the Mitchell since the Pacific Fighters days... :pilotfly: If you want to talk to anyone about anything personal, send it to their PM box. Interpersonal drama and ad hominem rebuttal are things that do not belong on a thread viewed by the public. One thing i have to point out... naming a thread.. "OK, so" is as useful as tits on a bull.
flare2000x Posted March 2, 2015 Posted March 2, 2015 Mossie and Ju-88 for their ability to be used in a multitude of roles. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] DCS:WWII 1944 BACKER --- Fw. 190D-9 --- Bf. 109K-4 --- P-51D --- Spitfire! Specs: Intel i7-3770 @3.9 Ghz - NVidia GTX 960 - 8GB RAM - OCz Vertex 240GB SSD - Toshiba 1TB HDD - Corsair CX 600M Power Supply - MSI B75MA-P45 MoBo - Defender Cobra M5
Solty Posted March 2, 2015 Posted March 2, 2015 Ju-88, because 15,000+ of them were made. Much more than any of the aircraft on the list. It could level bomb, it could dive bomb, it could be fitted as a heavy fighter/night fighter, and launch torpedoes. I am glad I saw your post, so I don't have to write it the second time. Ju88 gives awesome mission variety and would be a first bomber for Germans (taking into consideration that Allies will get B-17 first) But above all, Ju88 is cute :D [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]In 21st century there is only war and ponies. My experience: Jane's attack squadron, IL2 for couple of years, War Thunder and DCS. My channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCyAXX9rAX_Sqdc0IKJuv6dA
airdoc Posted March 2, 2015 Posted March 2, 2015 i think that you should also include the A-26 Invader, since it was in the roadmap of the Kickstarter project as a medium bomber. The three best things in life are a good landing, a good orgasm, and a good bowel movement. The night carrier landing is one of the few opportunities in life to experience all three at the same time.
The_Pharoah Posted March 2, 2015 Author Posted March 2, 2015 From my old IL2 days, whenever you had an online server going...you always needed goals/missions which were primarily bombing missions - the fighters then 'did their part' in either flying escort or intercept. In order to do that however, you will need atleast a medium bomber. Whilst I'd love the JU88, a normandy map would involve primarily allies attacking german airfields / marshalling yards / installations / traffic / etc rather than the other way around so I'd still vote for an allied medium bomber or heavy fighter initially. After that, I'd love to get my grubby mitts on a JU88 especially due to its multi role capability AMD AM4 Ryzen7 3700X 3.6ghz/MSI AM4 ATX MAG X570 Tomahawk DDR4/32GB DDR4 G.Skill 3600mhz/1TB 970 Evo SSD/ASUS RTX2070 8gb Super
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Friedrich-4B Posted March 2, 2015 Posted March 2, 2015 Whilst I'd love the JU88, a normandy map would involve primarily allies attacking german airfields / marshalling yards / installations / traffic / etc rather than the other way around so I'd still vote for an allied medium bomber or heavy fighter initially. After that, I'd love to get my grubby mitts on a JU88 especially due to its multi role capability The Ju 88S-3 or Ju 188A-2 or D-2 with Jumo 213s would be interesting options. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]************************************* Fortunately, Mk IX is slightly stable, anyway, the required stick travel is not high... but nothing extraordinary. Very pleasant to fly, very controllable, predictable and steady. We never refuse to correct something that was found outside ED if it is really proven...But we never will follow some "experts" who think that only they are the greatest aerodynamic guru with a secret knowledge. :smartass: WWII AIRCRAFT PERFORMANCE
Random Posted March 2, 2015 Posted March 2, 2015 B26 widowmaker for me on that list as my Grandads old squadron operated them In North Africa/The Med As stated Mossie is a light bomber and being done by VEAO JU-88 is probably the most sensible one on the list, though The He111 is the more iconic aircraft. Dream medium bomber? Vickers Wellington.
The_Pharoah Posted March 3, 2015 Author Posted March 3, 2015 Dream medium bomber? Vickers Wellington. lol as a night bomber you mean? That thing couldn't defend itself against anything, much less front line Luftwaffe fighters. AMD AM4 Ryzen7 3700X 3.6ghz/MSI AM4 ATX MAG X570 Tomahawk DDR4/32GB DDR4 G.Skill 3600mhz/1TB 970 Evo SSD/ASUS RTX2070 8gb Super
MiloMorai Posted March 3, 2015 Posted March 3, 2015 lol as a night bomber you mean? That thing couldn't defend itself against anything, much less front line Luftwaffe fighters. It had success against U-boats.
Merlin-27 Posted March 3, 2015 Posted March 3, 2015 i think that you should also include the A-26 Invader, since it was in the roadmap of the Kickstarter project as a medium bomber. And if they did go ahead with the A-26 Invader why not also consider the the B-26 Marauder. Both used the Pratt & Whitney R-2800 which would be included with the upcoming P-47. That eliminates a lot of the work for new engine modeling. Just sayin' [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] [Dogs of War] WWII COMBAT SERVER | P-51D - FW190-D9 - Me109-K4 Visit Our Website & Forum to Get More Info & Team Speak Access
airdoc Posted March 3, 2015 Posted March 3, 2015 And if they did go ahead with the A-26 Invader why not also consider the the B-26 Marauder. Both used the Pratt & Whitney R-2800 which would be included with the upcoming P-47. That eliminates a lot of the work for new engine modeling. Just sayin' Agreed. From a historical standpoint i 'd choose the Marauder as a first option. The Invader would probably be a fascinating bird to fly next, since it was very fast and very maneuverable (allegedly it could turn inside a 109!) The three best things in life are a good landing, a good orgasm, and a good bowel movement. The night carrier landing is one of the few opportunities in life to experience all three at the same time.
Charly_Owl Posted March 3, 2015 Posted March 3, 2015 Dream medium bomber? Vickers Wellington. You're in luck: Team Fusion is releasing a new Wimpy cockpit for their next Cliffs of Dover patch. Chuck's DCS Tutorial Library Chuck's Guides on Mudspike Chuck's Youtube Channel Chuck's Patreon
The_Pharoah Posted March 4, 2015 Author Posted March 4, 2015 Any know re the Normandy map whether it will include SE England? or is it meant to be sort of post June '44 when the allies were using french airfields for fighters? AMD AM4 Ryzen7 3700X 3.6ghz/MSI AM4 ATX MAG X570 Tomahawk DDR4/32GB DDR4 G.Skill 3600mhz/1TB 970 Evo SSD/ASUS RTX2070 8gb Super
Random Posted March 4, 2015 Posted March 4, 2015 You're in luck: Team Fusion is releasing a new Wimpy cockpit for their next Cliffs of Dover patch. I'm aware of that. I'm wanting DCS EFM/PFM and ASM though.
panzerd18 Posted March 4, 2015 Posted March 4, 2015 Any know re the Normandy map whether it will include SE England? or is it meant to be sort of post June '44 when the allies were using french airfields for fighters? I really hope it includes part of the UK. Would be so good on the long flight over and back!
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