CheckGear Posted October 11, 2019 Posted October 11, 2019 I was always curious when and why this became a thing. Up until the Gulf War, it seemed like only Sidewinders were carried on the wingtip pylons. Then in the mid-1990s or so, it seemed like they suddenly opted to have AMRAAMs there, even though Sparrows were never mounted in the same spot.
Deano87 Posted October 11, 2019 Posted October 11, 2019 Because it helps damp this: Although it causes some other problems... Ask Panther, she knows first hand. Proud owner of: PointCTRL VR : Finger Trackers for VR -- Real Simulator : FSSB R3L Force Sensing Stick. -- Deltasim : Force Sensor WH Slew Upgrade -- Mach3Ti Ring : Real Flown Mach 3 SR-71 Titanium, made into an amazing ring. My Fathers Aviation Memoirs: 50 Years of Flying Fun - From Hunter to Spitfire and back again.
Oceandar Posted October 11, 2019 Posted October 11, 2019 I hope it'd be modelled in later point or it has already ? Looks awful tbh I dont want to be that pilot in that situation lol. Mastering others is strength. Mastering yourself is true power. - Lao Tze
Deano87 Posted October 11, 2019 Posted October 11, 2019 It would be great to see it in the simulation eventually. Proud owner of: PointCTRL VR : Finger Trackers for VR -- Real Simulator : FSSB R3L Force Sensing Stick. -- Deltasim : Force Sensor WH Slew Upgrade -- Mach3Ti Ring : Real Flown Mach 3 SR-71 Titanium, made into an amazing ring. My Fathers Aviation Memoirs: 50 Years of Flying Fun - From Hunter to Spitfire and back again.
launchedsquid Posted October 11, 2019 Posted October 11, 2019 According to Wikipedia an AIM-7 weighs nearly twice as much as an AMRAAM, given the claims that the 120's cause stress damage when on the tips, maybe the 7's were never considered just because of weight.
Bearfoot Posted October 11, 2019 Posted October 11, 2019 Discussed in: https://www.fighterpilotpodcast.com/episodes/005-aerial-refueling/
VampireNZ Posted October 11, 2019 Posted October 11, 2019 Not sure how comfortable I would be flying along with my bombs bouncing around under the wing like that! :lol: Vampire
HawkDCS Posted October 11, 2019 Posted October 11, 2019 So the heavier missile is acting like a damper on the end of the wing? Rig: 5960X @ 4.5GHZ 32GB 3000Mhz DDR4 Titan XP Dell 3415W 21:9 Thrustmaster Warthog
The Falcon Posted October 11, 2019 Posted October 11, 2019 (edited) Carry the aim120 or aim7 on the wingtip pylons involves problems of maneuverability in the roll due to the mass/inertia also cause a greater stress in flexing the wings. Edited October 11, 2019 by The Falcon
sparkchaser2010 Posted October 11, 2019 Posted October 11, 2019 According to Wikipedia an AIM-7 weighs nearly twice as much as an AMRAAM, given the claims that the 120's cause stress damage when on the tips, maybe the 7's were never considered just because of weight. The AIM-7 is also not rail launched like the AIM-120, the AIM-7 is ejected in most cases, unless there is an unknown variant out there some where. ASUS TUF GAMING X670E with AMD RYZEN 5 7600X, 64GB DDR4, ASUS TUF GAMING 4080 Pico 4, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS Formally Known As: wpnssgt (google it )
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Bouli306 Posted October 11, 2019 Posted October 11, 2019 Sparrows were looked at but to my knowledge never actually came in full development.
mvsgas Posted October 11, 2019 Posted October 11, 2019 (edited) According to Wikipedia an AIM-7 weighs nearly twice as much as an AMRAAM, given the claims that the 120's cause stress damage when on the tips, maybe the 7's were never considered just because of weight. Some specific version of the F-16 can carry the AIM-7 on station 3 and 7. They need special pylons. Without looking, the Egyptians F-16 (specifically their block 40), Iraqi block 52+, ROCAF F-16A block 20 and USAF F-16A ADF. I am sure there are others. Carry the aim120 or aim7 on the wingtip pylons involves problems of maneuverability in the roll due to the mass/inertia also cause a greater stress in flexing the wings. AIM-7 can't be carried on station 1, 2, 8 nor 9. Only station 3 and 7 AFAIK, because of weight The AIM-7 is also not rail launched like the AIM-120, the AIM-7 is ejected in most cases, unless there is an unknown variant out there some where. The AIM-120 can be rail launch, if you look at the missile it has "hooks" that go on the rail. Edited October 11, 2019 by mvsgas spelling To whom it may concern, I am an idiot, unfortunately for the world, I have a internet connection and a fondness for beer....apologies for that. Thank you for you patience. Many people don't want the truth, they want constant reassurance that whatever misconception/fallacies they believe in are true..
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