diveplane Posted May 17, 2012 Author Posted May 17, 2012 uploading sun flare mod check user files section guys for mod. Diveplanes DCS World Sunmod lets see those beautiful screenshots...now :>P https://www.youtube.com/user/diveplane11 DCS Audio Modding.
Blaze Posted May 17, 2012 Posted May 17, 2012 Thanks man, great work as always! i7 7700K | 32GB RAM | GTX 1080Ti | Rift CV1 | TM Warthog | Win 10 "There will always be people with a false sense of entitlement. You can want it, you can ask for it, but you don't automatically deserve it. "
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Corrigan Posted May 17, 2012 Posted May 17, 2012 Looks fantastic, but... A bit too big? Win10 x64 | SSDs | i5 2500K @ 4.4 GHz | 16 GB RAM | GTX 970 | TM Warthog HOTAS | Saitek pedals | TIR5
diveplane Posted May 18, 2012 Author Posted May 18, 2012 (edited) Looks fantastic, but... A bit too big? its the hdr bloom effect around sun increases, if u stare at this effect it reduces in size . what time and season is that? , my screens its perfect check it out. Edited May 18, 2012 by diveplane https://www.youtube.com/user/diveplane11 DCS Audio Modding.
diveplane Posted May 18, 2012 Author Posted May 18, 2012 another fine shot. https://www.youtube.com/user/diveplane11 DCS Audio Modding.
Corrigan Posted May 18, 2012 Posted May 18, 2012 I have your other sun flare mod, and that appears much smaller in all situations I've tried it in. That screen is spring, I believe, and at 19:30 or so, but it appears consistently too big. Also, I know that it reduces in size, but not very much. After this it's still far too big. Win10 x64 | SSDs | i5 2500K @ 4.4 GHz | 16 GB RAM | GTX 970 | TM Warthog HOTAS | Saitek pedals | TIR5
diveplane Posted May 18, 2012 Author Posted May 18, 2012 I have your other sun flare mod, and that appears much smaller in all situations I've tried it in. That screen is spring, I believe, and at 19:30 or so, but it appears consistently too big. Also, I know that it reduces in size, but not very much. After this it's still far too big. wait how u get that in a10? u using the mod in dcs a10? https://www.youtube.com/user/diveplane11 DCS Audio Modding.
Blaze Posted May 18, 2012 Posted May 18, 2012 Well the texture files are exactly the same for A-10C and World, so it works just fine there. I was using your old sun flare mod in World before you released this one. Same files. i7 7700K | 32GB RAM | GTX 1080Ti | Rift CV1 | TM Warthog | Win 10 "There will always be people with a false sense of entitlement. You can want it, you can ask for it, but you don't automatically deserve it. "
Corrigan Posted May 18, 2012 Posted May 18, 2012 It might have something to do with another mod I've installed. I'll try a clean install now, it only takes a minute. Win10 x64 | SSDs | i5 2500K @ 4.4 GHz | 16 GB RAM | GTX 970 | TM Warthog HOTAS | Saitek pedals | TIR5
diveplane Posted May 18, 2012 Author Posted May 18, 2012 It might have something to do with another mod I've installed. I'll try a clean install now, it only takes a minute. will make another one up thats smaller in size but will have a different look , i personally like the big sun. stay tuned for a smaller sun mod .. https://www.youtube.com/user/diveplane11 DCS Audio Modding.
Corrigan Posted May 18, 2012 Posted May 18, 2012 So, I checked with a clean install and it's not a conflict. I'd love a smaller version! Something around the size of your last mod, perhaps. That'd be perfect! Win10 x64 | SSDs | i5 2500K @ 4.4 GHz | 16 GB RAM | GTX 970 | TM Warthog HOTAS | Saitek pedals | TIR5
aaron886 Posted May 18, 2012 Posted May 18, 2012 Looks fantastic, but... A bit too big? Dunno, if I stare at the sun directly like that in real life, it seems pretty "big."
diveplane Posted May 18, 2012 Author Posted May 18, 2012 ok heres the sun without any effects added its already quite big ..,not much i can do about it. but i have reduced it down somewhat so far by adding effects. sun sphere = no effects external the sphere is even bigger looking.. more updates shortly. https://www.youtube.com/user/diveplane11 DCS Audio Modding.
PeterP Posted May 18, 2012 Posted May 18, 2012 (edited) more updates shortly. No need to go in circles - its all being already discussed here: How make the sun smaller? Here is an interesting mission to look at. I placed two TV towers 2000 meters in front of you on Tbilisi Lochini airport. These towers are spaced perpendicular to you, and are 35 meters apart. Through the small angle approximation, we know that this means that the angular separation between them is 35/2000 = 0.0175 radians ~= 1 degree. So as you sit on the runway there at the start point, the towers are 1 degree apart. I set the time and date so the sun would be in the same field of view. Here is the screenshot (reduced in size): So the Sun is in fact around 3 degrees across (the size of the sun as seen from like, half of Mercury's distance), and the little gun circle on the top of the HUD is 1 degree across or a little bigger. Again, IRL, the angular diameter of the sun (and moon) is ~0.5 degrees, so the sun is 6X larger across than in real life. The correct size of the sun should be half of the diameter of the fixed gun circle!!! EDIT: Fixed some files, wrong ones uploaded first try. It's not only to big- the bigger problem is that the sun size is bound to the Camera aspect ratio - means: If you higher your FOV the sun will stay the same (too-big) size but becomes bigger relative to the scene. There is no easy way to fix this by editing a Texture- this is buried in the HDR.FX functions. Here is a PM conversation that gives a little insight what I tried so far to get this star from Beteigeuze size to the one of our Sun: Thanks - for pointing me in the right direction ! I think that the "Big Glow" function is buried somewhere in the HDR.FX >>\Eagle Dynamics\DCS A-10C\Bazar\shaders\PostMotionEffect\HDR I already tested some lowering of the values that are bound to "sunP" and "sunPUV " ... but it is a it takes soo much time to find the right "floatX" definition that will make it maybe happen... So I'm thinking to open a thread where I invite people to make a Brute-force attack on the HDR.FX. The idea is that every poster says what lines he will change- one by one - and post his results - and every next poster will take the next lines... and so on. Maybe we get some "bingo" in the end - and if not - sure a little more insight how the HDR shaders work together. What do you think? - Am I right in my assumption that is it the HDR.FX that is causing this constant "big glow"(unless behind clouds) overlay ? Or do you suspect other files? I believe it might be something in the .fx files? I toyed with this for a few days a bit back. The model is 3D but the effects are linked to the hdf effects file. I was able to reduce the size, but the 'rays' would stay the same which gave a strange effect. Try removing those two sun.edm files and let me know what happens Hi - I removed the edm files and I didn't saw a change at all . I also edited the TGA files for the rays - until I removed them at all - but this "Big Glow" in front of the sun will always have the same size - it even doesn't matter at which zoom level. I also Edited all Values in the HDR.lua- I could remove everything but not this "Big Glow"... - so I think that it is coded elsewhere - and digging myself through the *.vsh/*.psh files in the sun folder without even knowing what I'm doing is out of scope for me.. Thanks for your time - So long! In a nutshell: The sun size with HDR on maybe looks OK for someone at a 1280x1024 screen at a FOV of 60° - but it gets ridiculous big at a 2560x1400 screen with a FOV of 90°. Maybe let's pick up the brute-force attack idea again when there is no answer of the testers and/or Devs. Edited May 18, 2012 by PeterP
diveplane Posted May 18, 2012 Author Posted May 18, 2012 (edited) No need to go in circles - its all being already discussed here: How make the sun smaller? It's not only to big- the bigger problem is that the sun size is bound to the Camera aspect ratio - means: If you higher your FOV the sun will stay the same (too-big) size but becomes bigger relative to the scene. There is no easy way to fix this by editing a Texture- this is buried in the HDR.FX functions. Here is a PM conversation that gives a little insight what I tried so far to get this star from Beteigeuze size to the one of our Sun: In a nutshell: The sun size with HDR on maybe looks OK for someone at a 1280x1024 screen at a FOV of 60° - but it gets ridiculous big at a 2560x1400 screen with a FOV of 90°. Maybe let's pick up the brute-force attack idea again when there is no answer of the testers and/or Devs. thx peter for that figured its coded elsewhere sun size .. Edited May 18, 2012 by diveplane https://www.youtube.com/user/diveplane11 DCS Audio Modding.
NRG-Vampire Posted May 18, 2012 Posted May 18, 2012 thx peter for that figured its coded elewhere sun size .. Well, then there can be only one solution: a smaller, ~half sized 3D sun-square edm model :(
Corrigan Posted May 18, 2012 Posted May 18, 2012 I also noted these anomalies when zooming yesterday. It's strange though, that the sun with this mod looks so much bigger than both the original sun and Dive's last mod. Win10 x64 | SSDs | i5 2500K @ 4.4 GHz | 16 GB RAM | GTX 970 | TM Warthog HOTAS | Saitek pedals | TIR5
diveplane Posted May 18, 2012 Author Posted May 18, 2012 going to put this one on the back burner for now guys. https://www.youtube.com/user/diveplane11 DCS Audio Modding.
diveplane Posted May 19, 2012 Author Posted May 19, 2012 smaller sized sun mod in the works = wip screenshot below. https://www.youtube.com/user/diveplane11 DCS Audio Modding.
Corrigan Posted May 19, 2012 Posted May 19, 2012 Now that's more like it. :D Win10 x64 | SSDs | i5 2500K @ 4.4 GHz | 16 GB RAM | GTX 970 | TM Warthog HOTAS | Saitek pedals | TIR5
Panzertard Posted May 19, 2012 Posted May 19, 2012 Oh darn, where's my boxers and my sunscreen!? Nice one, diveplan. The mind is like a parachute. It only works when it's open | The important thing is not to stop questioning
Kuky Posted May 19, 2012 Posted May 19, 2012 Nice PC specs: Windows 11 Home | Asus TUF Gaming B850-Plus WiFi | AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D + LC 360 AIO | MSI RTX 5090 LC 360 AIO | 55" Samsung Odyssey Gen 2 | 64GB PC5-48000 DDR5 | 1TB M2 SSD for OS | 2TB M2 SSD for DCS | NZXT C1000 Gold ATX 3.1 1000W | TM Cougar Throttle, Floor Mounted MongoosT-50 Grip on TM Cougar board, MFG Crosswind, Track IR
diveplane Posted May 19, 2012 Author Posted May 19, 2012 will create 2 versions of the smaller mod i think one with color other toned down again. https://www.youtube.com/user/diveplane11 DCS Audio Modding.
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