'F1-F12' commands for comms sub-menu, question...

I am looking for a way to map the 'F1-F12' keys that control the comms menu and sub-menu to my HOTAS without using keyboard mapping software. However when mapping directly through DCS the 'F1-F12' keys open 'views' and do not control the comms menu.

Is there a way without keyboard mapping software to map the comms menu?

Thank you.

May i suggest avoiding immersion-breaking comms menus altogether ? Vaicom Pro and Voiceattack allow a much more realistic AI comms experience .

Target or Joystick Gremlin works for me, but these are external software.

It's interesting when the comms menu is open, 'F1-F12' keyboard commands will command the comms menu and when closed will command the 'View' but 'F1-F12' commands through DCS only commands 'View' and ignores the comms menu when it's open.

I have all the software I need, I've used Saitek and Target in the past but have now mapped all commands through DCS and don't want to start with the software again only for this one issue if I don't have to but will if I have to.

May i suggest avoiding immersion-breaking comms menus altogether ? Vaicom Pro and Voiceattack allow a much more realistic AI comms experience .

I never thought of voice commands as an option, I'm not really into talking.

I never thought of voice commands as an option, I'm not really into talking.

Same, when I'm playing a game I don't really feel like yelling randomly at a computer. Unless it's like locking up or smoking or something.

Fair enough....i don't like machines talking to me :)

Thanks for the suggestion though!

Same, when I'm playing a game I don't really feel like yelling randomly at a computer. Unless it's like locking up or smoking or something.

It is not random, you still use the comms switches on the throttle, so not random. I have been adding words as I started flying in VR. I also turned off the player's voice and that really adds to realism

I personally find key bindings to be more efficient than voice commands, which typically takes a few sec to register. With the F keys bound to hat switches I can issues 3 consecutive functions in just 1 second.

It is not random, you still use the comms switches on the throttle, so not random. I have been adding words as I started flying in VR. I also turned off the player's voice and that really adds to realism

It's random to anyone else that has to hear me jibbering to my computer in a 1 way conversation

fitness88

You need edit LUA for change radio COMM from F1-F12 to joy buttons.

https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2585963&postcount=8

But since is need edit for each module - redo in game updates...

I think that for this case an simple to set keymapper (JoyToKey, RS mapper..._) just for this function result more practical.

fitness88

 

You need edit LUA for change radio COMM from F1-F12 to joy buttons.

 

https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2585963&postcount=8

 

But since is need edit for each module - redo in game updates...

I think that for this case an simple to set keymapper (JoyToKey, RS mapper..._) just for this function result more practical.

Thanks for this, looks like it will get my menu commands to work with whatever keys I want. I'll look it over later...thanks again.

I suggested before to have UP, Down and Select commands for the Communications menu (the same as any console game does).

I suggested before to have UP, Down and Select commands for the Communications menu (the same as any console game does).

Yes I had that before, but once I dropped the HOTAS software comms became inaccessible through DCS, which is too bad.

I'll work on what Sokol1_br posted.

fitness88

 

You need edit LUA for change radio COMM from F1-F12 to joy buttons.

 

https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2585963&postcount=8

 

But since is need edit for each module - redo in game updates...

I think that for this case an simple to set keymapper (JoyToKey, RS mapper..._) just for this function result more practical.

The link gives this file path: MOD/Aircraft/L39/Input/Joystick and add the following to the general section:

I don't know what is meant by general section and where to go to change the mapping.

Think he refer to Hansolo example - attached in previous message (# 7), edit "default.LUA" in

...\Config\Input\CommandMenu\keyboard.

return {
keyCommands = {
	{combos = {{key = 'Num1'}}, name = 'Command menu item 1', down = ICommandMenuItem1},
	{combos = {{key = 'Num2'}}, name = 'Command menu item 2', down = ICommandMenuItem2},
	{combos = {{key = 'Num3'}}, name = 'Command menu item 3', down = ICommandMenuItem3},
	{combos = {{key = 'Num4'}}, name = 'Command menu item 4', down = ICommandMenuItem4},
	{combos = {{key = 'Num5'}}, name = 'Command menu item 5', down = ICommandMenuItem5},
	{combos = {{key = 'Num6'}}, name = 'Command menu item 6', down = ICommandMenuItem6},
	{combos = {{key = 'Num7'}}, name = 'Command menu item 7', down = ICommandMenuItem7},
	{combos = {{key = 'Num8'}}, name = 'Command menu item 8', down = ICommandMenuItem8},
	{combos = {{key = 'Num9'}}, name = 'Command menu item 9', down = ICommandMenuItem9},
	{combos = {{key = 'Num0'}}, name = 'Command menu item 10', down = ICommandMenuItem10},
	{combos = {{key = 'Num-'}}, name = 'Command menu item 11', down = ICommandMenuItem11},
	{combos = {{key = 'Num+'}}, name = 'Command menu item 12', down = ICommandMenuItem12},
	{combos = {{key = 'Tab', reformers = {'LShift'}}}, name = 'Command switch dialog', down = ICommandSwitchDialog},
},
}

Curious is that I post after in that topic that have tested changing COMM for keypad keys e joystick buttons, and work OK.

But now... I don't remember anything about. :megalol:

Think he refer to Hansolo example - attached in previous message (# 7), edit "default.LUA" in

...\Config\Input\CommandMenu\keyboard.

 

return {
   keyCommands = {
       {combos = {{key = 'Num1'}}, name = 'Command menu item 1', down = ICommandMenuItem1},
       {combos = {{key = 'Num2'}}, name = 'Command menu item 2', down = ICommandMenuItem2},
       {combos = {{key = 'Num3'}}, name = 'Command menu item 3', down = ICommandMenuItem3},
       {combos = {{key = 'Num4'}}, name = 'Command menu item 4', down = ICommandMenuItem4},
       {combos = {{key = 'Num5'}}, name = 'Command menu item 5', down = ICommandMenuItem5},
       {combos = {{key = 'Num6'}}, name = 'Command menu item 6', down = ICommandMenuItem6},
       {combos = {{key = 'Num7'}}, name = 'Command menu item 7', down = ICommandMenuItem7},
       {combos = {{key = 'Num8'}}, name = 'Command menu item 8', down = ICommandMenuItem8},
       {combos = {{key = 'Num9'}}, name = 'Command menu item 9', down = ICommandMenuItem9},
       {combos = {{key = 'Num0'}}, name = 'Command menu item 10', down = ICommandMenuItem10},
       {combos = {{key = 'Num-'}}, name = 'Command menu item 11', down = ICommandMenuItem11},
       {combos = {{key = 'Num+'}}, name = 'Command menu item 12', down = ICommandMenuItem12},
       {combos = {{key = 'Tab', reformers = {'LShift'}}}, name = 'Command switch dialog', down = ICommandSwitchDialog},
   },
}

Curious is that I post after in that topic that have tested changing COMM for keypad keys e joystick buttons, and work OK.

But now... I don't remember anything about. :megalol:

I know what you mean!

Thanks DCS World OpenBeta\Config\Input\CommandMenu\keyboard/default.lua is the only file in the folder and matches script. I'll try it out, can I use a modifier like shift in front of the key I choose as I'm running out of empty keys?

So to make sure I have it clear...do I change the F1-F12 for any other unused key?

Yes, in the above example was use Numpad keys instead F1-F12.

Make a backup of your actual default.lua and test with modifier.

Yes, in the above example was use Numpad keys instead F1-F12.

 

Make a backup of your actual default.lua and test with modifier.

I see there is mention of reformers at the bottom of the script:

{combos = {{key = 'Tab', reformers = {'LShift'}}}, name = 'Command switch dialog', down = ICommandSwitchDialog},

},

I suspect reformers is = modifiers, I wonder how the syntax would be using LShift with another key?

Just tested it, works fine...thanks again!

No it doesn't work.

The Config\Input\CommandMenu\keyboard/default.lua doesn't map directly to the joy stick it can only reassign the keyboard command to another key which means you would still need a keyboard mapping software...which I have 2 but don't want to use.

Why when using the keyboard does F1-F12 work for both comms menu and 'views'...whichever one is active, but when mapped through DCS F1-F12 commands only work for 'views'?

For map in joysticks buttons open the "default.LUA" in

MOD/Aircraft/"aircraft name"/Input/Joystick and add the following to the general section:

{down = ICommandMenuItem1, name = _('Command menu item 1'), category = _('General')},
{down = ICommandMenuItem2, name = _('Command menu item 2'), category = _('General')},
{down = ICommandMenuItem3, name = _('Command menu item 3'), category = _('General')},
{down = ICommandMenuItem4, name = _('Command menu item 4'), category = _('General')},
{down = ICommandMenuItem5, name = _('Command menu item 5'), category = _('General')},
{down = ICommandMenuItem6, name = _('Command menu item 6'), category = _('General')},
{down = ICommandMenuItem7, name = _('Command menu item 7'), category = _('General')},
{down = ICommandMenuItem8, name = _('Command menu item 8'), category = _('General')},
{down = ICommandMenuItem9, name = _('Command menu item 9'), category = _('General')},
{down = ICommandMenuItem10, name = _('Command menu item 10'), category = _('General')},
{down = ICommandMenuItem11, name = _('Command menu item 11'), category = _('General')},
{down = ICommandMenuItem12, name = _('Command menu item 12'), category = _('General')},

Not sure about "general section", but think is top of "default.LUA" inside joystick folder, where are entries for start procedure cheat.

Don't forget to make backup before change.:thumbup:

EDIT - Test adding code in plane > joystick and work, and don't affect F1-F12 default assignments.

Test changing _('General') with _ ('Communications') and place under ---Communications

will be more easy to find for change joy buttons.

Tested (offline) OK:

Mods\aircraft\FA-18C\Input\FA-18C\joystick/default.lua

Please post your default.lua file so I can see exactly what you are doing.