Suggestion: PTT - Radio behavor

With the PTT buttons for the radios, we are controlling two things:

- Interaction with the AI (clickable menues, like for A2A refueling)

- Speaking with each other (SRS, or VoIP in the future)

The actual problem:

Each time I use the Radio PTT to talk over SRS, the radio menu pops up and stays there.

Next time I use the Radio PTT, the menu disappears.

To improve the situation, I would recommend the following behavor:

PTT button pressed for <0,5 seconds -> Show the com menu

PTT button pressed for >0,5 seconds -> Do not show the com menu

So we could easily use the PTT button for both, the DCS com menu and also to talk over SRS / VoIP.

Maybe this would also be a simple and fast solution to include.

I second that.

Maybe the time variable can be configurable.

Will be a problem for future ingame VoIP too I think.

Are you running a warthog?

On the throttle thumb hat/comm switch I use forward/back to talk on SRS COMM1/2, and up/down to toggle opening and closing DCS COMM1/2 menu.

Yes, I do, but I need all four directions.

Up: Com1

Down: Com2

Fwd: Com 3 (A-10c)

Aft: ICS (F-14)

Fwd: Com 3 (A-10c)

Aft: ICS (F-14)

Make those push. Problem solved.

Unfortunately it would not solve it...

(Beside that I use push for VR-Zoom)

Unfortunately it would not solve it...

(Beside that I use push for VR-Zoom)

My VR zoom is forward on red china hat, back is VR recenter.

Agreed.

I have on my wh throttle comm four way,

Back - teamspeak

Forwards - comm 1

Down - comm 2

Up - comms menu

I use ‘up’ solely to close that menu after using my radios....

I have

Forward: comm 1

Aft: comm 2

Down: comm menu

Up: discord

Push: voice attack

All are hold, except for down of course

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The actual problem:

Each time I use the Radio PTT to talk over SRS, the radio menu pops up and stays there.

Next time I use the Radio PTT, the menu disappears.

 

To improve the situation, I would recommend the following behavor:

PTT button pressed for <0,5 seconds -> Show the com menu

PTT button pressed for >0,5 seconds -> Do not show the com menu

Clever.

+1

But to be honest when they start to integrate in game voip i'm sure they will find the need to use similar solution.:thumbup:

Thx.

I have no idea if the Devs read this here or not, however, I'm pretty sure they'll find a solution that works well.

Thx.

I have no idea if the Devs read this here or not, however, I'm pretty sure they'll find a solution that works well.

I hope they read and consider this.

Even with "stage 1" of ED voip, they could already use the modules PTT key for voip PTT.

In fact it was a missed chance if they would not do it. Personally i'm only interested in ingame Voip if it works with the modules PTT button. I'll patiently wait for proper radio/channel simulation, but cockpit integration is a must even for "stage 1" imho.

+1! Sounds like a good idea.

With the PTT buttons for the radios, we are controlling two things:

- Interaction with the AI (clickable menues, like for A2A refueling)

- Speaking with each other (SRS, or VoIP in the future)

 

The actual problem:

Each time I use the Radio PTT to talk over SRS, the radio menu pops up and stays there.

Next time I use the Radio PTT, the menu disappears.

 

To improve the situation, I would recommend the following behavor:

PTT button pressed for <0,5 seconds -> Show the com menu

PTT button pressed for >0,5 seconds -> Do not show the com menu

 

 

So we could easily use the PTT button for both, the DCS com menu and also to talk over SRS / VoIP.

Maybe this would also be a simple and fast solution to include.

I already do this: TEMPO (DX1, DX2, 500) Bind DX1 to DCS and DX2 to SRS.

Are you not using a modifier on your Warthog?

Clearly something needs to be done considering the future/planned integrated radio, though. The long-press for PTT idea is interesting. There might, however, be a problem with people speaking before the long-press is committed, thereby cutting off the top of their message. It's already a problem with normal PTT, to be honest.

i don't know how feasible it would be, but imagine DCS running voice recognition in background, so to contact tower you just press and hold your PTT and give you call by voice.

to help you (and the voice reckognition algorithm) while pressing the PTT the old menu could still come up, but not clickable and only to help you with the "proper" syntax for your call (to not confuse the AI listener).

i think technically this would work well, since the voice calls could follow a strict syntax.

also there are capable open-source voice-reckognition solutions, that could maybe be implemented?

The long-press for PTT idea is interesting. There might, however, be a problem with people speaking before the long-press is committed, thereby cutting off the top of their message. It's already a problem with normal PTT, to be honest.

That's not what is written in the request. Just that only short bursts open the F10 radio menu. They can also open the voice channel.

That's not what is written in the request. Just that only short bursts open the F10 radio menu. They can also open the voice channel.

Ah, copy.

PTT - Voice & Com menu in the future

I would like to link to this existing thread:

https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=254447

I really think that this would be a good and easy idea to handle voice & com in the future.

With the PTT buttons for the radios, we are controlling two things:

- Interaction with the AI (clickable menues, like for A2A refueling)

- Speaking with each other (SRS, or VoIP in the future)

 

The actual problem:

Each time I use the Radio PTT to talk over SRS, the radio menu pops up and stays there.

Next time I use the Radio PTT, the menu disappears.

 

To improve the situation, I would recommend the following behavor:

PTT button pressed for <0,5 seconds -> Show the com menu

PTT button pressed for >0,5 seconds -> Do not show the com menu

 

 

So we could easily use the PTT button for both, the DCS com menu and also to talk over SRS / VoIP.

Maybe this would also be a simple and fast solution to include.

I am using this exact behaviour on my Warthog programmed through TARGET. Using short press for DCS comm switches and long presses for SRS/Vaicom.