POLL: BEST PLANE IN A2A ROLE IN DCS WW2

[USARStarkey]

Vote!

[Random]

The best one is whichever manages to shoot me down... that means all of them!

[howie87]

I voted for the Spitfire but the pilot who knows how to use his aircraft's strengths to his advantage and his enemies weaknesses against them will usually win.

[PFunk1606688187]

Whichever one is most OP when the game comes out.

[Scrim]

Oh dear, it looks like people with nothing better on their hands will yet again fight about why aircraft they haven't touched, seen in action, lived to see during the war, or been in any way related to them is the better one.

[USARStarkey]

Dude, its just a poll on what THINK will be best. Nobody is debating anything, I was just curious to see what people expected from the various planes.

[Harakou]

^^ Really, let's not jump to complaining about arguments before they even break out. Personally I voted for the 190, but all the planes here were successful fighters.

[Pyroflash]

They all had their strengths, but I'd take a P-51D over any of the competition. Higher, faster, more range. Works really well offensively, especially in an escort role. For interception, I would take a Dora. Nothing to scoff at there. For forward defense, the Spitfire, hands down. For a fighter-bomber, the P-47D was really the only choice on this list. I don't really know much about the K4.

[NineLine]

I tend to think that the later version German aircraft get underplayed a little as the war had turned by the time they came into service, they didnt have the numbers and the quality of pilot was getting lower all the time... I think both D9 and K4 are pretty mean airplanes... that said, I voted for the Spitfire... I mean it wins on sexy alone :)

[USARStarkey]

I voted for the P-51 because I think it is going to really surprise people. It is as fast as usual and dives really well and has its well-known E-retention etc. The thing I think will startle most sim -jocks is that in this game it also TURNS quite nicely once you learn to ride its stall. It turns particularly well when its loaded with a comparable fuel load to lighter interceptors. I can get sustained 20sec turns at 68% fuel and at 25% I can manage 18.96 seconds. That is far better than other sims rate the Mustang. Aces high by comparison give the 51 a 21 second turn time at 25% fuel at sea level. The AI Dora doesn't even come close to being able to turn with you, which is probably why the AI stick to the vertical, which you can do just as well if you stay fast and don't get stuck in a slow speed sustained climb with the thing :)

 

Also, Just posting my 2 cents. I don't want this to be a debate so if you post don't start making direct responses to other people if your intent is to be contentious.

[Pandacat]

Whichever one is most OP when the game comes out.

 

Yep 100% agreed. No matter how well you simulate, you can only apporach the real world not copy it.

[leafer]

You left out the best looking fighter in that era: Bf 109, so I voted P-51.

[NineLine]

109 is on there :P

[leafer]

Oi...and I looked twice. :doh:

[NineLine]

Oi...and I looked twice. :doh:

 

 

3rd time's the charm :)

[howie87]

Well, the jug can out dive everything else on that list but climbing isn't its strong point. Probably a good plane to run away in though!

[Friedrich-4B]

Well, the jug can out dive everything else on that list but climbing isn't its strong point. Probably a good plane to run away in though!

 

The paddle-bladed prop helped improve the ROC - can't remember the stats off hand.

 

(Then there's the old joke about P-47 pilots being able to unstrap and run around the cockpit dodging bullets...)

[USARStarkey]

Paddle P-47 holds about 3200frpm. The thing alot of people don't notice about the P-47 with the paddle prop is that it holds it climb rate really well. It starts at 3200 and at 20,000 it it still holding 3000fpm. While that is not amazing or anything at first glance, what this means is that above 20k where the P-47 was supposed to rule the sky, It climb would be better than a 190 and about equal, or maybe just slightly worse than a 109. Not the Dora or K of course.

[JtD]

Which Fw 190D, Spitfire, P-47 and P-51 subtype? Can I assume whichever variant I consider best?

[Harakou]

Which Fw 190D, Spitfire, P-47 and P-51 subtype? Can I assume whichever variant I consider best?

 

I would assume the variants we're going to have in-game.

[leafer]

3rd time's the charm :)

 

lol Now you know why I didn't make detective.

 

Back on topic. If some poor sap think he'll get a kill first time he climbed in DCS wwii anything I have a P-51 waiting for him. :P

[gavagai]

Spitfire gets the votes because it has always been made ez-mode in other flight sims. I really don't see how a Mk IX is going to match the 109K and 190D-9, unless people are silly enough to turn on the deck, which they will be.

[leafer]

Spitfire gets the votes because it has always been made ez-mode in other flight sims. I really don't see how a Mk IX is going to match the 109K and 190D-9, unless people are silly enough to turn on the deck, which they will be.

 

So true.

[Yob]

It is all about pilot, that is why i can be on the WW2 server and be in a really bad place against 2 or 3 Human flyers and still come out with my arse in tact.......

 

With the Spitfire mk IX, you need to realize that in climbing it can beat a P-51D mustang, which is not to shaby. So it will really matter who the pilot is and if they and how they use their aircraft to it's strength and exploit E/A weaknesses..

 

Elijah

Spitfire Fan

[USARStarkey]

I also agree regarding pilot skill. I do think however that pilot skill is much more important in this sim than it is in many others. Not only are the planes far more complex and have higher learning curves, the physics modeling in this allows for tactics that I have never previously been able to perform in other sims. The advanced aerodynamic simulation allows players to squeeze every last ounch of performance from their planes in ways that are not possible in other sims. When playing Aces High or Il2, you always knew EXACTLY what was going to happen because the FM's were simplistic and based on scripts. A great many things are not taken into account in other sims, and some of the things that are aren't modeled as accurately as might be desired. I think that we are going to discover all sorts of things out about these planes that will be different from their modeling in previous sims. I have noticed that energy fighting in this sim is much different than it is in others.