gamerbwoi Posted May 11, 2014 Posted May 11, 2014 Is anybody else looking forward to this? RazBam, Please start a KickStarter campaign.. I understand it has nearly the same role as the A10? Granted the A10 has a huge ass gun, and can carry a lot more munitions, but realistically, the Av-8b 2 utilises the maverick, and GBU's just as the A10 does.. SO from a technical perspective surely this would be an easy one in terms of Avionics? Am i right in thinking that the flight systems and aerodynamics are the tricky part?
joey45 Posted May 11, 2014 Posted May 11, 2014 It's more to do with the Game Engine limits then anything else. The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. "Me, the 13th Duke of Wybourne, here on the ED forums at 3 'o' clock in the morning, with my reputation. Are they mad.." https://ko-fi.com/joey45
gamerbwoi Posted May 11, 2014 Author Posted May 11, 2014 It's more to do with the Game Engine limits then anything else. You see, now how does this help? Come on Joey- Explain this.. Im genuinely interested so the more i learn, the more i love.. So be as detailed as you can while explaining like im five..
Terrorvogel Posted May 11, 2014 Posted May 11, 2014 Is anybody else looking forward to this? Yes it is! I can´t wait to give my money to this great plane. Really hope this will be made in near future. Regards Terrorvogel ASROCK X79 Extreme11 (WC), i7-4930K (WC), 32GB G.Skill TridentX, Vertex 3 120GB, GTX 980ti, 3x 39,5" Philips 4K, TrackIR 5, TM Warthog with PeterP´s FFB2 Mod, 2xSaitek Throttle, 2x Thrustmaster Cougar MFD Bezel, Simped Vario Pedals modded with toe brakes, Opencockpit Cards, 4x Soundcard, 2x Buttkicker Gamer 2, 4x GTX 950 with tons of touchscreens...
Einherjer Posted May 11, 2014 Posted May 11, 2014 Hope so also! Untill this will happen i have to fly the flyable harrier Mod
joey45 Posted May 11, 2014 Posted May 11, 2014 The harrier has been in the game since LO v1. But it hasn't been enabled due to the VTOL limits in the game code. But I can hear you scream "BUT what about FSX?".. - A] DCS engine is not the FSX engine. B] FSX does not have VTOL (ask Razbam). As the DCS engine evolves over time then we will see VTOL and 2+ MP in game. Making the model is easy, making the Cockpit is easy (any info in making one will be nice) But makiing the VTOL Flight model is not especially a PFM/ASM one. The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. "Me, the 13th Duke of Wybourne, here on the ED forums at 3 'o' clock in the morning, with my reputation. Are they mad.." https://ko-fi.com/joey45
gamerbwoi Posted May 11, 2014 Author Posted May 11, 2014 The harrier has been in the game since LO v1. But it hasn't been enabled due to the VTOL limits in the game code. But I can hear you scream "BUT what about FSX?".. - A] DCS engine is not the FSX engine. B] FSX does not have VTOL (ask Razbam). As the DCS engine evolves over time then we will see VTOL and 2+ MP in game. Making the model is easy, making the Cockpit is easy (any info in making one will be nice) But makiing the VTOL Flight model is not especially a PFM/ASM one. What you on about FSX for? Im talking about DCS.. We know DCS has VTOL capability..
phant Posted May 11, 2014 Posted May 11, 2014 It's more to do with the Game Engine limits then anything else. What game engine limit? Bye Phant
gamerbwoi Posted May 11, 2014 Author Posted May 11, 2014 What game engine limit? Bye Phant Thats what i asked..
gamerbwoi Posted May 11, 2014 Author Posted May 11, 2014 New Module.. Who would pay uprfront for a module if they knew they could have the Module within 6 months? ie DCS HARRIER.. £40 upfront to promise a 6 month delivery.. 2
cichlidfan Posted May 11, 2014 Posted May 11, 2014 At this point you are trolling. ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup:
gamerbwoi Posted May 11, 2014 Author Posted May 11, 2014 At this point you are trolling. Because i listened to you?
Scrim Posted May 11, 2014 Posted May 11, 2014 That the DCS engine doesn't have VTOL. Seriously, that was pretty easy to read in Joey's last post. That may be a reason, but considering how much attention RAZBAM seems to be giving DCS, I doubt it's the only reason. 1
gamerbwoi Posted May 11, 2014 Author Posted May 11, 2014 That the DCS engine doesn't have VTOL. Seriously, that was pretty easy to read in Joey's last post. That may be a reason, but considering how much attention RAZBAM seems to be giving DCS, I doubt it's the only reason. Seriously... Have you even read these posts?
Flagrum Posted May 11, 2014 Posted May 11, 2014 Because i listened to you? Or ... because you crosspost the same topic 3 or 4 times, in seemingly random sub-forums now?
gamerbwoi Posted May 11, 2014 Author Posted May 11, 2014 Or ... because you crosspost the same topic 3 or 4 times, in seemingly random sub-forums now? Ive never heard of a man who wanted to sell his product in 1 shop? Ive placed this (along with other queries) in genuine places i think it needs to go, i only put it in here based upon cichlidfan's advice.. But even he is now complaining.. What a crock! If i honestly thought you guys would moan like suck a massive prolific bunch of grandads i probably wouldnt have asked.. But every thread i start is genuine, and is only asked in curiosity. Ill tell you this though, im put off by some of the community. Upto now, the only nice people ive dealt with is the Developers who have been honest, taken my questions, and given me some real and true feedback based upon my questions.. And i now genuinely know how much hardwork half of you guys are making it for them.. 2
Flagrum Posted May 11, 2014 Posted May 11, 2014 (edited) .... blah blah ... :doh::doh::doh: Whatever you are really up to ... this attitude will not help you. edit: and which advise do you mean? ... you should hang around a while and read the forums, then start a thread like this again. ... this? Edited May 11, 2014 by Flagrum
sobek Posted May 11, 2014 Posted May 11, 2014 Ive placed this (along with other queries) in genuine places i think it needs to go, i only put it in here based upon cichlidfan's advice.. Well, you need to get a clue about forum netiquette. Crossposting is not cool. Thread closed. Good, fast, cheap. Choose any two. Come let's eat grandpa! Use punctuation, save lives!
sobek Posted May 11, 2014 Posted May 11, 2014 That the DCS engine doesn't have VTOL. Seriously, that was pretty easy to read in Joey's last post. Actually that is pretty nonsensical. The DCS engine has anything that the developer puts into it. There is no reason why thrust vectoring should not be possible. Good, fast, cheap. Choose any two. Come let's eat grandpa! Use punctuation, save lives!
Scrim Posted May 11, 2014 Posted May 11, 2014 (edited) Gamer: Yeah, those things totally prove that VTOL is in the DCS engine, don't they? The ability of an airframe to move vertically without horizontal movement does not equal VTOL. Sobek: Perhaps. I don't know why it's not in the engine, I was replying to questions about what Joey had written. Whether or not it's up to 3rd party devs to put such features into DCS I don't know, and I consider it irrelevant at this stage, as I don't believe RAZBAM are actively developing anything for DCS. Edited May 11, 2014 by Scrim
Silver_Dragon Posted May 11, 2014 Posted May 11, 2014 gamerbwoi, I sorry by you, but if you read the video info, that only a experiment. A test over the engine. That no show the real AFM of a Harrier or aplicable to them. This is a showcase of aerodynamic forces modelling in DCSW. The DCSW MiG-21BIS aircraft was used as a test-bed for this experiment. For Work/Gaming: 28" Philips 246E Monitor - Ryzen 7 1800X - 32 GB DDR4 - nVidia RTX1080 - SSD 860 EVO 1 TB / 860 QVO 1 TB / 860 QVO 2 TB - Win10 Pro - TM HOTAS Warthog / TPR / MDF
Blaze Posted May 11, 2014 Posted May 11, 2014 We experimented and had VTOL working perfectly with EFM back in 2012...entirely possible, it's all up to the person writing the flight model... The notion that "DCS World doesn't support VTOL" is complete bull. 1 i7 7700K | 32GB RAM | GTX 1080Ti | Rift CV1 | TM Warthog | Win 10 "There will always be people with a false sense of entitlement. You can want it, you can ask for it, but you don't automatically deserve it. "
gamerbwoi Posted May 11, 2014 Author Posted May 11, 2014 We experimented and had VTOL working perfectly with EFM back in 2012...entirely possible, it's all up to the person writing the flight model... The notion that "DCS World doesn't support VTOL" is complete bull. I love you dude.. Where's your website? Im making a donation for showing up..
phant Posted May 11, 2014 Posted May 11, 2014 (edited) That the DCS engine doesn't have VTOL. What about Mi-8, UH-1 and Black Shark? Yes, generally VTOL is indicate for aicrafts but the concept is the same in terms of coding. Razbam have a list of priority about DCS releases and that's only reasons: nothing about DCS limits for VTOL flight model. Viceversa they have some problems with FSX engine limits: http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=1847808&postcount=410 Bye Phant Edited May 11, 2014 by phant
sobek Posted May 11, 2014 Posted May 11, 2014 The ability of an airframe to move vertically without horizontal movement does not equal VTOL. You really should watch the . Good, fast, cheap. Choose any two. Come let's eat grandpa! Use punctuation, save lives!
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