#04 - MINI-UPDATE & COLD STARTUP

[Rabbit_]

Yes, sound is currently a little on the basic side and will be vastly improved. This has mainly been due to the way that sound is implemented in the core engine, and changes therein.

This might come with a day 1 patch, before release itself or just after -- depending on how fast we can implement our new soundset.

 

It's great to read this. Thank You.

[Sceptre]

Yes, sound is currently a little on the basic side and will be vastly improved. This has mainly been due to the way that sound is implemented in the core engine, and changes therein.

This might come with a day 1 patch, before release itself or just after -- depending on how fast we can implement our new soundset.

 

is good!

[mig29movt]

Yes, sound is currently a little on the basic side and will be vastly improved. This has mainly been due to the way that sound is implemented in the core engine, and changes therein.

This might come with a day 1 patch, before release itself or just after -- depending on how fast we can implement our new soundset.

 

Souns like you are on the edge of finishing :beer:

[Sceptre]

Souns like you are on the edge of finishing :beer:

 

I see what you did there ( ͡º ͜ʖ ͡º)

[Cedaway]

Thanks for the answer Cobra.

Very satisfied with it :)

[Skulleader]

WOW super work guys, what can I say ?

After have watch this video I'm on my knees and I pray the ED god for one very close release.

This video is awesome, the cockpit is a real master piece, the sound is just incredible and the 3D model perfect !!!

I really love all the detail from the undercarriage, it's awesome...

My credit card is ready and hot, now wait, wait... Leatherneck I would like to thank you again for this incredible and beautiful video.

Bye Skull.

[FoReIgNeR]

Insta-buy, can't wait for this module to release!

[Sceptre]

I'm on my knees and I pray the ED god for one very close release.

 

( ͡º ͜ʖ ͡º)

[f-18hornet]

Today I just watched start up from one year old beczl's video and I compared it to this one and it's like totally different plane.:thumbup:

[ff4life4]

Today I just watched start up from one year old beczl's video and I compared it to this one and it's like totally different plane.:thumbup:

 

Link?

[f-18hornet]

I downloaded it from Youtube previous year. I was collecting videos with that MiG. So it is not available there anymore.

[ff4life4]

gotcha thanks

[mongol-29]

LS you have not properly animated leaf feeding the engine. On earth when the engine is idling, taxiing, when the engine is not enough air entering through air intake they appear under the action of suction pressure in the channel of the air intake. In flight, the pressure in the channel increases due to the incident flow of air and they are closed.

You, on the contrary.

[Cobra847]

LS you have not properly animated leaf feeding the engine. On earth when the engine is idling, taxiing, when the engine is not enough air entering through air intake they appear under the action of suction pressure in the channel of the air intake. In flight, the pressure in the channel increases due to the incident flow of air and they are closed.

You, on the contrary.

 

Check 4:02, the auxiliary intakes open at that point due to increased engine thrust. In the final shot (where I throttle down), the excess air doors open (front).

Note that my speed is still very low in the last shot (due to the vertical meanouvre)

Edited July 10, 2014 by Cobra847

[Sauer Kaese]

Check 4:02, the auxiliary intakes open at that point due to increased engine thrust. In the final shot (where I throttle down), the excess air doors open (front).

Note that my speed is still very low in the last shot (due to the vertical meanouvre)

 

Hi Cobra,

 

many thanks for this great update!

 

I have a question: on the video the wheels are still rotating further though. But in the true life take off the wheels braked by a automatic braking system after take off.

 

Thus the question is: is either the brake of the wheels after take off not also modeled (which I think is not bad at all), or the system was not turned on?

 

greeting

[Cobra847]

Hi Cobra,

 

many thanks for this great update!

 

I have a question: on the video the wheels are still rotating further though. But in the true life take off the wheels braked by a automatic braking system after take off.

 

Thus the question is: is either the brake of the wheels after take off not also modeled (which I think is not bad at all), or the system was not turned on?

 

greeting

 

Apologies, I saw your post on this previously and forgot to reply.

 

I lack the expertise to answer this actually. I believe ABS was on, but I'm honestly not sure if it deals with braking the gear when collapsing them.

 

I'll consult with Novak, this might be a bug. :)

[mongol-29]

Here for example MiG-21MF - sash recharge discovered since the launch of the engine and all the while taxiing.

start

MiG-21bis taxiing see from 2:47

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmSiujVaJk4

and there is still much everywhere and immediately after starting the engine shutters opened it's just physics;)

Edited July 11, 2014 by mongol-29

[ff4life4]

1.2.9 будет включать в себя только Сейбр и несколько исправлений.

Изначально 1.2.9 не планировали, но в связи с незавершенностью нового рендера в 1.3.0 приняли решение выпускать Сейбр в старом рендере, т.е. в рамках 1.2.9.

 

Translation

1.2.9 will include only a few fixes and Sabre.

Initially 1.2.9 not planned, but due to the incompleteness of the new renderer in 1.3.0 Sabre decided to release the old render, ie under 1.2.9.

 

 

So they are going to have release 1.2.9 for the Sabre, because 1.3 and Edge isnt ready yet.

 

Is there any chance that the Mig-21 will be release along with Sabre.

 

More reading on this http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=80468&page=552

 

Edit: 1.3.0 seems delayed for few months

Edited July 11, 2014 by ff4life4

[Cobra847]

Here for example MiG-21MF - sash recharge discovered since the launch of the engine and all the while taxiing.

start

MiG-21bis taxiing see from 2:47

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmSiujVaJk4

and there is still much everywhere and immediately after starting the engine shutters opened it's just physics;)

 

Confirmed, and fixed. The animation argument was flipped by mistake and we missed it. Thank you!

 

Gear braking on closing is also now implemented.

[Teeter]

Confirmed, and fixed. The animation argument was flipped by mistake and we missed it. Thank you!

 

Gear braking on closing is also now implemented.

 

Great recommendations happening here and fantastic responses by you as well Cobra. Good feelings in general about the way this is working. Can't wait to hear some more news!

[outlawal2]

Man, I read some of these posts and continue to be amazed at the detail level that these DEVS are putting into these modules...

 

Then I am blown away by the knowledge of the folks on this forum that can point out absolutely miniscule details about these planes... the level of detail is extraordinary in both cases!

[Teeter]

Man, I read some of these posts and continue to be amazed at the detail level that these DEVS are putting into these modules...

 

Then I am blown away by the knowledge of the folks on this forum that can point out absolutely miniscule details about these planes... the level of detail is extraordinary in both cases!

 

The wonders of collaboration never cease to amaze me. There are many developers out there who would raise their chin to suggestions like these and ignore consumer input. Good feelings, LN

[Esac_mirmidon]

The EDGE and 1.3.0 delay could boost in any way the Mig-21 release?

 

Now it seems that integration on 1.3.0 and EDGE could be made with more time and this could means an earlier release than expected if there are no urgent work to integrate it now so fast.

 

Only a personal thought. Please don´t read this as "Are we there yet? "

[ff4life4]

The EDGE and 1.3.0 delay could boost in any way the Mig-21 release?

 

Now it seems that integration on 1.3.0 and EDGE could be made with more time and this could means an earlier release than expected if there are no urgent work to integrate it now so fast.

 

Only a personal thought. Please don´t read this as "Are we there yet? "

 

As i Mentioned before they are doing a 1.2.9 release for Sabre, Hope they consider doing the Mig21 as well

[Auger73]

Check 4:02, the auxiliary intakes open at that point due to increased engine thrust. In the final shot (where I throttle down), the excess air doors open (front).

Note that my speed is still very low in the last shot (due to the vertical meanouvre)

 

I never paid attention to these doors on MiG-21's before, but after watching a number of videos of 21s on the ground, it looks like the door position on your excellent model has a bug.

 

From the videos, the purpose of the doors seems to be to allow sufficient airflow into the engine in conditions when ram air pressure into the main intake is low. The doors seem to follow these basic rules:

1. If the engine is off, the doors are closed.

2. If the engine is on, and the plane is not moving, the doors are open.

3. If the engine is on, and the plane is moving quickly, the doors are closed.

 

If you looks at the following pictures of 21s, you can see the door position in shutdown 21s, as well as 21s that are taxiing:

http://www.hottail.nl/airforces/czech/Mig-21.html

Edited July 11, 2014 by Auger73