[1.2.10] unable to touch the deck of Amiral Kouznetsov with F-15

[Ergo95FRA]

Hi all ,

 

since 1.2.8 and introduction of new AFM F-15C model, it's impossible to land on the Russian Carrier. Before, even the F-15 is not able to land on a carrier, we can Touch & Go with it. Moreover, it's possible to modif .lua script aircraft file to active tail hook of the F-15 and then, try to land on a carrier, even this plane can not in real life because the gear is not enought strong (like F-14 for exemple). The hook is normally just for emergency landing on a runway... I know ^^. But, with old model (SFM), we could land on the Amiral Kouznetsov or CVN but now the F-15 fall through the deck and crash in the water .... :( . That really umbarrassing. Because even the F-86 (new production , and in Beta) could touch the deck. F-15 have now a realistic physics for landing and yet, this is it what crash on the fight deck ( I mean fall through it)

 

So I hope this will be modif and improve in futur. That rest a big challenge and I like it ;-)

[JulienBlanc]

Spell checker! hehe

 

I get what you mean though, the F-15 doesn't clip anymore on the carriers.

Same issue with many other planes...

Although I couldn't possibly tell what's wrong with them and what's not :/

[NineLine]

I dont think i could report this as a bug as the F-15 isnt meant to land on a carrier, especially a Russian one....

 

;2149771']Hi all ,

 

since 1.2.8 and introduction of new AFM F-15C model, it's impossible to land on the Russian Carrier. Before, even the F-15 is not able to land on a carrier, we can Touch & Go with it. Moreover, it's possible to modif .lua script aircraft file to active tail hook of the F-15 and then, try to land on a carrier, even this plane can not in real life because the gear is not enought strong (like F-14 for exemple). The hook is normally just for emergency landing on a runway... I know ^^. But, with old model (SFM), we could land on the Amiral Kouznetsov or CVN but now the F-15 fall through the deck and crash in the water .... :( . That really umbarrassing. Because even the F-86 (new production , and in Beta) could touch the deck. F-15 have now a realistic physics for landing and yet, this is it what crash on the fight deck ( I mean fall through it)

 

So I hope this will be modif and improve in futur. That rest a big challenge and I like it ;-)

[Nate--IRL--]

Noted.

 

Nate

[Wolf Rider]

F-15 not designed for carrier ops...

[Ergo95FRA]

I dont think i could report this as a bug as the F-15 isnt meant to land on a carrier, especially a Russian one....

 

I know I said it during my report. But even if it wasn't for carrier landing (especially russian carrier) this is not normal it fall through the deck. I think you didn't understand all. I said it fall in the water ... throught the deck . Even the F86 can touch and go.... and the F15 too before AFM so this is not normal it can't now.

[Ergo95FRA]

Sorry but , I call it "Bug" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5G4uEPSs2k&feature=youtu.be

 

now with my F-86 Sabre (AFM too and one of the lastest module) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_stY0dCGC0k&feature=youtu.be

Edited August 23, 2014 by Ergo95[FRA]

[Nate--IRL--]

It is a bug and it has been reported.

 

Nate

[NeilWillis]

I'd suggest the real bug in this situation is that the Kusnetsov doesn't blow you out of the sky before you're within 5 miles of the carrier deck!

 

This can hardly be a priority when the F-15 is not a carrier airframe. Why should it be able to do something it wasn't designed to do? The best way to solve the issue is to land where it is meant to land - on a nice long concrete or tarmac runway!

 

I have also noted that the Fw190 D-9 cannot carry out VSTOL take off and landings (probably due to the lack of vectored thrust). I wouldn't call that a bug either though!

Edited August 23, 2014 by NeilWillis

[joey45]

Could be the connectors that are used?.... or not, could be the carrier collison model....?

the A01A can not but the A10C can.

I'd suggest the real bug in this situation is that the Kusnetsov doesn't blow you out of the sky before you're within 5 miles of the carrier deck!

if it's on your side then it wont.

Edited August 23, 2014 by joey45

[Ergo95FRA]

I take the Russians in friendly in the editor (just easy) On virtual aerobatic server there is just one team too (ru et usa on in the same team). So no , there isn't a bug ^^

 

Could be the connectors that are used?.... or not, could be the carrier collison model....?

the A01A can not but the A10C can.

 

if it's on your side then it wont.

 

yeah maybe something like that ; a collision model but for each plane. Because I think if it was the carrier collision model , that would affect all the plane.

 

and yes you're true. I take the russian in my side for that

Edited August 23, 2014 by Ergo95[FRA]

[Darkwolf]

not surprised - even UH1 is not usable on ship. :/

[tarracta]

I'd suggest the real bug in this situation is that the Kusnetsov doesn't blow you out of the sky before you're within 5 miles of the carrier deck!

 

This can hardly be a priority when the F-15 is not a carrier airframe. Why should it be able to do something it wasn't designed to do? The best way to solve the issue is to land where it is meant to land - on a nice long concrete or tarmac runway!

 

I have also noted that the Fw190 D-9 cannot carry out VSTOL take off and landings (probably due to the lack of vectored thrust). I wouldn't call that a bug either though!

 

ROFL. Even if you fly a F-15 against a skyscraper it has to crash and not fly through it and crash on the ground. Even if no airframe is designed to break into smithereens, it has to do it when you drive it against a concrete wall.

[Ergo95FRA]

precisely ;-) !

[Zabuzard]

ROFL. Even if you fly a F-15 against a skyscraper it has to crash and not fly through it and crash on the ground. Even if no airframe is designed to break into smithereens, it has to do it when you drive it against a concrete wall.

 

 

 

Imo no need to take effort, spend time, manpower, money etc. on an event that should never happen in normal gaming.

Youre right that it shouldnt happen but theres far more important stuff.

[Ergo95FRA]

well , for me I think this is important because bug like that are not supposed to be here. That appear and disappear after several patch and appear again ... why ? Sometimes, things have to be totally repaired before to continue improvement

[NineLine]

;2161049']well ' date=' for me I think this is important because bug like that are not supposed to be here. That appear and disappear after several patch and appear again ... why ? Sometimes, things have to be totally repaired before to continue improvement[/quote']

 

I am unable to orbit the moon with the F-15 either, I should be able to because I want to, correct?

 

The F-15 isnt carrier based, especially a russian carrier, ED isnt going to spend a lot of time on that, sorry.