Tango Posted September 4, 2014 Posted September 4, 2014 (edited) Hi, We are pleased to be able to announce that work has commenced on the CC version of the C-101! There are many features in this aircraft that are slightly more advanced than those found in the C-101EB, with some new systems added as well. A quick, brief, overview of some of the differences are outlined below: * More powerful engine * Increased takeoff weight * Some minor differences in systems display and operation * More advanced ADI and HSI * More advanced AHRS * Radio altimeter * AoA indexer * AoA instrument * TACAN is replaced by ADF * Advanced Flight Director system * Touch Control Steering (TCS - part of FD system) * IAS hold FD mode * Weapons system * HUD We are still getting acquainted with the aircraft systems, but once the models are sorted out, then I expect the systems will take about a week to update. Stay tuned! 8) Best regards, Tango. Edited September 16, 2014 by Tango
tomcatter Posted September 4, 2014 Posted September 4, 2014 (edited) Great..¡¡¡ Thanks Tango for keeping us so well informed. This smells so good...., just a question, is the C101 taking benefit of the multiplayer capacity that Wags announce today? I´m sure that the CC version is gonna be great and more fun that the EB version, so thanks for the update again. Looking forward to fly this plane¡¡¡ Edited September 4, 2014 by tomcatter
Abburo Posted September 4, 2014 Posted September 4, 2014 Beyond the fact that you present to us a new variant, I am even more glad that you&team are working even harder ;) ... sim future is bright! Romanian Community for DCS World HW Specs: AMD 7900X, 64GB RAM, RTX 4090, HOTAS Virpil, MFG, CLS-E, custom
Tango Posted September 4, 2014 Author Posted September 4, 2014 Great..¡¡¡ Thanks Tango for keeping us so well informed. You're welcome! is the C101 taking benefit of the multiplayer capacity that Wags announce today?Yes. As soon as we're able we will add full multi-crew capability to both variants. We will be adding full rear cockpits to both variants after we have the single crew version of the CC model completed. Hopefully it won't be too long. ;) I´m sure that the CC version is gonna be great and more fun that the EB version, so thanks for the update again. Looking forward to fly this plane¡¡¡8) Beyond the fact that you present to us a new variant, I am even more glad that you&team are working even harder ... sim future is bright! Thank you! 8) Best regards, Tango.
Stratos Posted September 4, 2014 Posted September 4, 2014 Looking forward to this one!! Can't wait! I don't understand anything in russian except Davai Davai!
Overvolt Posted September 5, 2014 Posted September 5, 2014 Tango the full mult-crew functionality is a code developer for you guys or a sistem coming whit the DCS 2.0 for all aircraft incoming? Intel i7 7700K | ASUS MAXIMUN IX Hero | GSkill RBG 3000mhz 32G(4x8G) | MSI Trio 1080ti | 1x M.2 SSD Samsung 960PRO 512G | 1 x WesterDigital 4T | Corsair AX-850W | Monitor Alienware 34" aw3418dw | Oblisidian 800D |CORSAIR H80 | Teclado Logitech G15 |Mouse Razer DeathAdder Elite | Trackir 5 + Clip pro | Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog | Pedal MFG Crosswind
kazereal Posted September 5, 2014 Posted September 5, 2014 Yes. As soon as we're able we will add full multi-crew capability to both variants. We will be adding full rear cockpits to both variants after we have the single crew version of the CC model completed. Hopefully it won't be too long. ;) Very nice! :thumbup: "I would have written a shorter post, but I did not have the time."
Aginor Posted September 5, 2014 Posted September 5, 2014 Good news, and thank you for working the CC! Don't get me wrong, there's nothing wrong with the EB, but things like HUD and weapons just make the CC a tiny bit more interesting for me. :) DCSW weapons cheat sheet speed cheat sheet
Zakatak Posted September 5, 2014 Posted September 5, 2014 Are we getting Mavericks and the anti-ship missiles by chance?
Poker1606688438 Posted September 5, 2014 Posted September 5, 2014 Awesome Tango!. Glad to see the CC pushing forward :thumbup: JM ____________________________________________ DCS A-10C, P-51D, F-15C, F-86F, Hawk
Tango Posted September 5, 2014 Author Posted September 5, 2014 Are we getting Mavericks and the anti-ship missiles by chance? Still researching. It would seem, though we are not sure, that these weapons require an MFD to be operational. The version of the CC we are modelling (at least, initially) only has a HUD. As far as I can tell, it can only drop unguided weapons in the AG role. Note that I have not looked into this in detail, so this could change. Best regards, Tango.
SkateZilla Posted September 5, 2014 Posted September 5, 2014 AGM-65D Mavericks were part of the Avionics Upgrade of the C-101DD. C-101CC did not Carry AGM-65s, Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs
Tango Posted September 5, 2014 Author Posted September 5, 2014 Ahh yes! Thank you. In that case, the CC won't have the AGM-65s. I think the same applies to Sea Eagle. Best regards, Tango.
SkateZilla Posted September 5, 2014 Posted September 5, 2014 (edited) There's mention of "Modernization" of weapons systems on Wiki and several "AvioJet" Info sites, but I cant find any details, and I'm pretty sure it's basically the CC and upgraded them with the DD Avionics packages, since the DD's didn't sell. the BAe Anti-Ship missiles and systems were Used by Chili on the C-101CC in a Trial Phase but never entered service. Edited September 5, 2014 by SkateZilla Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs
Galwran Posted September 5, 2014 Posted September 5, 2014 Ahh yes! Thank you. In that case, the CC won't have the AGM-65s. I think the same applies to Sea Eagle. Best regards, Tango. Too bad. :cry: I believe that I speak for many others when I say that a dual seat attack craft with anti ship missiles would have been great.
Tango Posted September 5, 2014 Author Posted September 5, 2014 (edited) Too bad. :cry: I believe that I speak for many others when I say that a dual seat attack craft with anti ship missiles would have been great. We can look into it, but the aircraft never made it beyond prototype stage. Chile flew the A-36 Halcón with the Sea Eagle, but it [sea Eagle] never entered service. Best regards, Tango. Edited September 5, 2014 by Tango
tomcatter Posted September 5, 2014 Posted September 5, 2014 Too bad. :cry: I believe that I speak for many others when I say that a dual seat attack craft with anti ship missiles would have been great. Well, maybe the C101 is not the best guy to do that job. I think is a really good one for COIN or low threat CAS scenarios, it is agile, flies well and it has not so many complicated systems to hit or stress the pilot, so a quiet good survival chances. But to attack a modern ship you will need more, much more speed, more electronic protection and more sensors that the C101 will give you.
Galwran Posted September 6, 2014 Posted September 6, 2014 Certainly not the best, but currently there is no better twin seat plane in the pipeline.
tomcatter Posted September 8, 2014 Posted September 8, 2014 Indeed, but I will carry that work on my own with the Hornet very soon¡¡¡
Gh0st007 Posted September 10, 2014 Posted September 10, 2014 Going to be an awesome little aircraft!! :) My system specification i9 13900000K/Game board - 64GB of random access memory / Galax 7090/ ViewSonic Elite XG320Q 32 Screen of monitor/ VPC Collective - VPC Sharka50 Grip / Trackir 5/ TPR/ Orion2 F/A-18 Throttle/VPC WarBRD Base/ Hornet grip/F-16 grip/ and most of all a ham sandwich.
Zakatak Posted September 10, 2014 Posted September 10, 2014 Just a recommendation to the Aviojet team. I think if you can find any information on how the Sea Eagle or AGM-65 was supposed to be implemented, you should go ahead and implement them. Other developers (VEAO and LN as far as I know) have admitted to taking some minor liberties in realism department for the fun factor. DCS operates in an alternate universe after all and plenty of fictional elements are already there. A C-101CC Aviojet having some minor software and hardware updates to outfit more powerful weapons prior to being sent to a war in Georgia is quite reasonable. You'll anger the most hardcore of the hardcore, but most people will appreciate the gameplay variety. Being able to stand out among the other trainers will bring you more cash as well.
SkateZilla Posted September 11, 2014 Posted September 11, 2014 Just a recommendation to the Aviojet team. I think if you can find any information on how the Sea Eagle or AGM-65 was supposed to be implemented, you should go ahead and implement them. Other developers (VEAO and LN as far as I know) have admitted to taking some minor liberties in realism department for the fun factor. DCS operates in an alternate universe after all and plenty of fictional elements are already there. A C-101CC Aviojet having some minor software and hardware updates to outfit more powerful weapons prior to being sent to a war in Georgia is quite reasonable. You'll anger the most hardcore of the hardcore, but most people will appreciate the gameplay variety. Being able to stand out among the other trainers will bring you more cash as well. As I Said, AGM 65 was never on the C-101CC, only the C-101DD. Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs
VincentLaw Posted September 11, 2014 Posted September 11, 2014 taking some minor liberties in realism department for the fun factor.I think it is more than a minor liberty to implement weapons that require an MFD to fire if the plane doesn't have an MFD. I am all for developers implementing weapons that an airplane can use but have never used operationally, but I don't think this is that case. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Flagrum Posted September 11, 2014 Posted September 11, 2014 I think it is more than a minor liberty to implement weapons that require an MFD to fire if the plane doesn't have an MFD. I am all for developers implementing weapons that an airplane can use but have never used operationally, but I don't think this is that case. I don't think, you are bound to have a MFD for the 65E - which is, iirc, the MAV that we are talking about. The 65E produces not really an image that the pilot could use for locking on a target. You mainly just need some means to tell the missile the laser code and everything else could be done with the HUD (like it is even possible for the other MAV variants). But of course, this is just my understanding and I admit, I have no clue how the integration was really done for the DD.
lmp Posted September 11, 2014 Posted September 11, 2014 I don't think, you are bound to have a MFD for the 65E - which is, iirc, the MAV that we are talking about. The 65E produces not really an image that the pilot could use for locking on a target. You mainly just need some means to tell the missile the laser code and everything else could be done with the HUD (like it is even possible for the other MAV variants). Does the CC have a laser rangefinder?
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