Tango Posted November 18, 2014 Author Share Posted November 18, 2014 (edited) I'm a bit confused can some one explain if the CC and EB are going to be two different modules or if it's going to be in a package The two modules will be sold together. EB is the trainer/aerobatic version, whilst CC is the light attack version. They have different cockpits, so we have to essentially make two modules, though systems commonality is around 90%. I'm also little interested in a SFM trainer. AFM is something useful in a future dual seat trainer where you could teach a cadet the nuances of flight without the need to revisit it and correct bad habits learned in SFM. I hope at least you will sell only one version as a "beta" and avoid the "SFM" - "SFM Beta - AFM Release" confusing strategy VEAO had. The only reason for doing this is because AFM is new to us, and is very complex (there is as much work in AFM development as there is in the whole of the rest of the module). In addition, obtaining aerodynamic data is hard, and consequently it all takes time. By releasing SFM versions first, you get to fly the module earlier, and we get the income to support further development. Best regards, Tango. Edited November 18, 2014 by Tango Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaelu Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 I agree with you Tango, just saying that you should not sell "cheap SFM only" version. Sell directly Beta module with SFM and auto update for AFM/PFM when ready. It will reduce the confusion, especially if you want to sell it on your site store and DCS Store. I'm thinking that due to your collaboration with VEAO you will have some numbers about the efficiency of this strategy. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] I5 4670k, 32GB, GTX 1070, Thrustmaster TFRP, G940 Throttle extremely modded with Bodnar 0836X and Bu0836A, Warthog Joystick with F-18 grip, Oculus Rift S - Almost all is made from gifts from friends, the most expensive parts at least Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aginor Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 Yeah, I guess most people want to have AFM anyway, if possible. The only downside of that tactic would be hundreds of people asking you "where is my AFM?" two days after SFM release. DCSW weapons cheat sheet speed cheat sheet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradox Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 Wasn't confusing at all IMO It's really very simple. If I didn't know better I'd say that some people make a conscious effort to misunderstand these things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tango Posted November 19, 2014 Author Share Posted November 19, 2014 (edited) Hi, just saying that you should not sell "cheap SFM only" version. Sell directly Beta module with SFM and auto update for AFM/PFM when ready. It will reduce the confusion, especially if you want to sell it on your site store and DCS Store. My personal opinion agrees with you, but what we actually do is still being discussed. There may be factors beyond our control that affect our decision. We will announce product pricing when we are closer to release. :thumbup: Yeah, I guess most people want to have AFM anyway, if possible. The only downside of that tactic would be hundreds of people asking you "where is my AFM?" two days after SFM release. We will clearly outline approximate timescales when we are closer to release, so people know what to expect. Like you, we can't wait for AFM either. :D Best regards, Tango. Edited November 19, 2014 by Tango Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkateZilla Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 I'm a bit confused can some one explain if the CC and EB are going to be two different modules or if it's going to be in a package It was answered. First picture (WIP) of the C-101CC cockpit. Spot all the differences with the C-101EB! :P Both versions will be part of the same product C-101 for DCS World. EB is on ED testing phase, and CC it will join soon. The EB version is intended for training and CC has light attack capabilities. Pictures were taken from DCS 1.2.10 version. Soon more news about CC development. :D Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentGun Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 C-101CC Update (Probably asked already) but do you guys think the c-101 will be a 2014 release? I just started to look into this aircraft and I'm really excited for it! (And I am not usually excited about trainers) Link to my Imgur screenshots and motto http://imgur.com/a/Gt7dF One day in DCS... Vipers will fly along side Tomcats... Bugs with Superbugs, Tiffy's with Tornado's, Fulcrums with Flankers and Mirage with Rafales... :)The Future of DCS is a bright one:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aginor Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 Last time they talked about it the Aviodev guys sounded rather confident that it will be a 2014 release, so yeah, I guess we can still hope for it. DCSW weapons cheat sheet speed cheat sheet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tango Posted November 23, 2014 Author Share Posted November 23, 2014 (edited) Given it is nearly the end of November, it's looking unlikely. There are some issues we are waiting for ED's help to resolve, and we are working like crazy to get the CC version completed, but it still has to go through the test cycle after that. As soon as we know, you'll know! Best regards, Tango. Edited November 23, 2014 by Tango Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tango Posted December 14, 2014 Author Share Posted December 14, 2014 Hi, Quick update: things are progressing very nicely. We'll have some more news for you imminently. Best regards, Tango. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oesau Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 Roger that Tango - thanks for the update Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudel_chw Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 Hi, Quick update: things are progressing very nicely. We'll have some more news for you imminently. Best regards, Tango. Thanks a lot for the update, I'm looking forward to the C-101 ... this will be the first DCS aircraft that I will try to create a livery for, since I'd love the oportunity to fly an aircraft in chile's colors ... like this sample: :D Cheers! Eduardo For work: iMac mid-2010 of 27" - Core i7 870 - 6 GB DDR3 1333 MHz - ATI HD5670 - SSD 256 GB - HDD 2 TB - macOS High Sierra For Gaming: 34" Monitor - Ryzen 3600X - 32 GB DDR4 2400 - nVidia GTX1070ti - SSD 1.25 TB - HDD 10 TB - Win10 Pro - TM HOTAS Cougar - Oculus Rift CV1 Mobile: iPad Pro 12.9" of 256 GB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazinger Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kontiuka Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Looking forward to a more tango-gible update.:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tango Posted December 16, 2014 Author Share Posted December 16, 2014 Hi Rudel chw, :music_whistling::music_whistling: Best regards, Tango. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudel_chw Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 :) i hadnt realized that the module would already came with a chilean livery ... Its great, i will be waiting for the moment it becames available for purchase. Best regards. Eduardo For work: iMac mid-2010 of 27" - Core i7 870 - 6 GB DDR3 1333 MHz - ATI HD5670 - SSD 256 GB - HDD 2 TB - macOS High Sierra For Gaming: 34" Monitor - Ryzen 3600X - 32 GB DDR4 2400 - nVidia GTX1070ti - SSD 1.25 TB - HDD 10 TB - Win10 Pro - TM HOTAS Cougar - Oculus Rift CV1 Mobile: iPad Pro 12.9" of 256 GB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tango Posted December 16, 2014 Author Share Posted December 16, 2014 Hi, Yes it will! Thanks for the support! 8) Best regards, Tango. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven68 Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Looks nice Tango! Intel i5-9600K @ 3.7GHz Gigabyte Z370XP SLI Mobo G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) 288-Pin DDR4 GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 2070 8GB 256-Bit GDDR6(Assume the latest driver version) Thermaltake Water 3.0 Certified Liquid Cooling System Windows 10 Professional Oculus Rift-S /TrackIR 5 in case VR dies Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog w/ Thrustmaster T-Flight Rudder Pedals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajdary Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Cool, waiting for it!:pilotfly: Phanteks Enthoo Evolv Tempered Glass, Asus ROG Maximus IX Hero, Intel i7 7700K @ 4.8, Corsair HX 1000i, Nzxt Kraken 62, 32gb DDR4 3000Mhz Corsair Dominator Platinum, Nvme SSD Samsung 960 Evo 1Tb, Asus Strix OC 1080ti, Philips 43" 4K Monitor + 2 x Dell 24" U2414H, Warthog HOTAS, Track IR 5, Obutto R3volution, Buttkicker Gamer 2, MFG Crosswind pedals, Occulus Rift CV1, Windows 10 Pro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xilium Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 Very nice !!!! Cant waaaaittttt ;) GIGABYE Z97P-D3 KINGSTON 16GB 1600MHZ INTEL I5-4690K OC 4.3GHZ SSD SAMSUNG EVO 240 256GB / SSD CRUCIAL MX500 1TB / WESTERN BLACK 2TB ASUS STRIX 970GTX 4GB SOUNDBLASTER Z-SERIES THUSTMASTER T16000M / TWCS MODULES: F-14 / UH-1 / A-10 / F-86 / KA-50 / MIG-21 / MI-8 / NEVADA / COMBINED ARMS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overvolt Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 This bird will be suportted to 2 seats fly on MP? Intel i7 7700K | ASUS MAXIMUN IX Hero | GSkill RBG 3000mhz 32G(4x8G) | MSI Trio 1080ti | 1x M.2 SSD Samsung 960PRO 512G | 1 x WesterDigital 4T | Corsair AX-850W | Monitor Alienware 34" aw3418dw | Oblisidian 800D |CORSAIR H80 | Teclado Logitech G15 |Mouse Razer DeathAdder Elite | Trackir 5 + Clip pro | Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog | Pedal MFG Crosswind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tango Posted December 27, 2014 Author Share Posted December 27, 2014 Hi, This bird will be suportted to 2 seats fly on MP? Eventually, yes. Best regards, Tango. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kazereal Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 So you can't talk about release dates yet but when can we start pre-purchasing? :D Nice work all the time and keeping people informed about progress. :thumbup: "I would have written a shorter post, but I did not have the time." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uboats Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 (edited) is it currently in SFM? Edited December 31, 2014 by uboats [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] My DCS Mods, Skins, Utilities and Scripts | Windows 10 | i7-4790K | GTX 980Ti Hybrid | 32GB RAM | 3TB SSD | | TM Warthog Stick | CH Pro Throttle + Pro Pedal | TIR5 Pro | TM MFD Cougar | Gun Camera: PrtScn | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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