Pictures of actual chaff?

[JayPee]

Every military sim I've flown from somewhere in the 90ies until today for some reason models a chaff dispense as a small explosion which expands into an orb shaped cloud (which remains in a perfect orb shape) filled with large pieces of light gray material, often in the form of a triangle.

 

I wonder if somebody has a few pictures of actual chaff release? Modern chaff cartridges consist of fibres instead of the much larger pieces of foil which are being modeled by sim developers in today's sims.

[AlphaOneSix]

You can't really see it, or at least that what I remember when we shot some off of an AH-64 (m-1 chaff cartridge from an M130 dispenser). Well, you could see a cloud, but that was more from the pyrotechnics rather than the actual fibers. The fibers themselves are quite small.

[JayPee]

Pyrotechnics in what form? The fibres lighting up due to the explosion which ejects them from the cartridge?

[Sabre-TLA]

Here is a picture:

 

Figure 24. Deployed chaff round shown as a burst of reflector elements against a sky background.

 

From this site: http://elektroarsenal.net/passive-electro-optic-infrared-electronic-warfare.html

[JayPee]

Nice read, Sabre!

[Fri13]

How is the chaff even releases?

 

When the chaff is packed to cartridge, does the cartridge just blow out in the dispenser so the flash just flies from dispencer?

 

Or does the dispencer fire a cartridge that explodes after a while distributing chaff wide area?

 

I find the chaff dispersions in DCS old looking as a paintbrush from Microsoft Paint.

[Ghostraider]

look here : http://www.chemringcm.com

[vicx]

Chaff looks so poor in DCS that I did this.

 

Delete chaff.edm.

Rename Suidae.edm to Chaff.edm

 

Drop flying pigs. It looks cool.

[vicx]

Sorry :music_whistling:

 

 

 

It is what it is.

 

I only swapped out the chaff in the last two days. I was wondering I could use the chaff class as the basis for a blimp target - answer seems to be that it won't work out.

Edited December 22, 2014 by vicx

[JayPee]

Right..

[Bolt-1]

Chaff looks so poor in DCS that I did this.

 

Delete chaff.edm.

Rename Suidae.edm to Chaff.edm

Drop flying pigs. It looks cool.

 

That is absoloutly epic. How about changing the pig to this.

Edited December 22, 2014 by sobek

[sobek]

Please don't post pics that are offensive/unfit for minors/not safe for work.

[GGTharos]

Like A16 said, you can't really see it, because it looks like this:

 

 

The strips are cut to deal with the current threat of the day - either pre-cut, there may be multiple lengths in the cartridge or the chaff dispenser may be doing the cutting by itself.

 

 

Every military sim I've flown from somewhere in the 90ies until today for some reason models a chaff dispense as a small explosion which expands into an orb shaped cloud (which remains in a perfect orb shape) filled with large pieces of light gray material, often in the form of a triangle.

 

I wonder if somebody has a few pictures of actual chaff release? Modern chaff cartridges consist of fibres instead of the much larger pieces of foil which are being modeled by sim developers in today's sims.

[strikeeagle]

That shit can get into your skin...you have to wear gloves if you pick it up.

 

I was working EOR at WA one flag and a 15 was in the arm pad when chaff just started falling out. Some just floated away. Also when we took the CFT's off of the Strike, it would be caked up on the side of the tank.

[JayPee]

Pictures of actual chaff?

 

Huh where does it have the dispensers?

[Winfield_Gold]

Huh where does it have the dispensers?

 

Looks internal I believe

[Eddie]

That photo shows the empty spaces where the dispensers would be loaded.

 

Most US aircraft use pyrotechnics to "fire" chaff/flare from the dispensers, hence their placement on the aircraft. Other types use mechanical action to push expendables from the dispenser.

 

For chaff, you shouldn't "see" anything more than a puff of smoke from the pyrotechnic charge, or in cases such as the BOL dispensers used on Typhoon/Tornado and other aircraft nothing at all.

[JayPee]

And what do these pyrotechnics do exactly, self ignite when getting in contact with the oxigen in the air around the aircraft?

[Eddie]

It's just a charge to propel the flare/chaff bundle out of the dispenser that's all.