OMG, the Huey is a dream to fly

[b00ce]

I know one thing, if I sat there and simply increased the collective in both the Huey and the Blackshark,,, which one is going to roll over and crash almost immediately,,LOL

 

The blackshark, of course. :music_whistling:

[Nevyn]

This is interesting!! I fly the Blackshark, just recently got into the Huey,,, I must be doing something wrong indeed! I can bearly get off the ground in the Huey,,, I try no trim, I try to pre trim,, as soon as I lift off, I am going all over the place, I cant simply get the skids off the ground and slowly go forward straight? Its been a weird stuggle. I have no problems with the Black shark?

 

It just tales lots of practice bro, I get better every time I fly it, I can now land with out breaking a part off or meeting my maker, I never ever thought I would be able to fly it, but it's taken me awhile to get right, an FFB joystick helped me alot though I must say, much easier when you can feel the trim, my Huey skills have got a lot better since I got my hands on an FFB stick.

 

Can't land on farps, ships or building's, I just cant get the huey into a hover yet, but I am getting close, try and try again is the only way really.

Edited March 27, 2015 by Nevyn

[=Mac=]

In the HUEY

First: Torque. The Huey will want to twist to the right. The left rudder pedal corrects for that below translation speeds. Pulling hard on the collective will increase torque. Correct for it harder. Just like riding a bicycle, once you get the hang of it, you won't even think about it.

 

Second: Hovering. It is very easy as long as you keep a bit of left rudder in to correct for torque. Approaching the hover area at speed, you need to slow down. Tilt tail down (AND collective down!), watch your Vertical Velocity Indicator against an unwanted climb and wait. Soon, you will feel the characteristic shudder, feel a growing twist to the right (add in some left rudder) and hear the rotor go from "whup, whup, whup" to a soft "Fff Fff Fff". (God, I just love it when it does that!) Once you feel you are really slow, begin to get level and watch for drift. Keep in mind that to slow down you tilt against travel and if you un-tilt too soon, you still are traveling. Tilt again. If, on the other hand, you tilt too long, you'll be backing up (or drifting sideways). Tilt the other way to slow that down.

 

Third (same for all helos): VRS means Vortex Ring State. That's the donut of air around your rotors that will drop you out of the sky viciously. Basically, your rotors blow air downwards, your motion is also going downwards, and thus your wind will begin downwards, move outwards and upwards, then your rotors will pull that air back down creating, in effect, a roiling donut of air that provides you with zero lift. If high enough, tilt out of the verticle and pull on the collective.

 

Finally, keep an ear out for your rotor speed. If you pull hard and long on the collective, the Huey's engine won't keep up and your rotor speed will drop with that nasty little alarm going off. Keep an ear out for rotor over-speed, too. It's similar to an auto-rotation maneuver except the engine will be trying to keep up with the rapidly spinning rotor.

 

Hope this helps whoever needs it.

 

Oh, by the way, if you have a clean install of the Huey, a good joystick/throttle/rudder pedal setup and your Huey still acts like a bucking bronco when you try to lift off, it's possible you have an older version of the Huey: update. Or, your joystick and collective are not centered for some reason. I use zero curves on all input devices and the Huey is still a dream to fly. I take off or land anywhere. True, the rough weather at an oil rig tends to be a fight, but that's true with real life helos, as well.

Edited March 27, 2015 by =Mac=

[Chic]

Well done Mac.

[b00ce]

Oh, by the way, if you have a clean install of the Huey, a good joystick/throttle/rudder pedal setup and your Huey still acts like a bucking bronco when you try to lift off, it's possible you have an older version of the Huey: update. Or, your joystick and collective are not centered for some reason. I use zero curves on all input devices and the Huey is still a dream to fly. I take off or land anywhere. True, the rough weather at an oil rig tends to be a fight, but that's true with real life helos, as well.

Turning on the hydraulic system also helps. :music_whistling:

 

As for VRS, you need to be descending well above 1000 FPM to go into it. Keep your descent rate around 500 FPM to make things nice and smooth (And recoverable in a pinch). Be careful though, as you start slowing down and you leave ETL; you will need to pull additional power to keep from falling out of the sky. There's definitely a "dead" zone in the collective range between forward flight and hovering (Even in ground effect). You'll notice your VSI start to drop once you get below ~20 KIAS, if you anticipate this you can keep your glide slope nice and even.

[Python]

Where are the oil rigs? Don't think I've seen one in DCS? I do tend to stick to fast jets mind.

[Yurgon]

Where are the oil rigs? Don't think I've seen one in DCS? I do tend to stick to fast jets mind.

 

You can place them in the Mission Editor: Static objects -> Structures -> Oil platform.

 

Or pick the UH-1H Instant Action mission "Old Rig Landing" :thumbup:

[Socket7]

There are 2 oil rigs in the game just outside the city of Sochi also.

[Chic]

There are 2 oil rigs in the game just outside the city of Sochi also.

 

I remember when I was breakin in on Huey. Landing on one of those rig platforms was just a dream. Now I'm landing on moving Tango Charlie and sling loading in my sleep.

 

VERY gratifying.

[Fakum]

Thanks for the advice guys,,,,

[Nevyn]

In the HUEY

First: Torque. The Huey will want to twist to the right. The left rudder pedal corrects for that below translation speeds. Pulling hard on the collective will increase torque. Correct for it harder. Just like riding a bicycle, once you get the hang of it, you won't even think about it.

 

Second: Hovering. It is very easy as long as you keep a bit of left rudder in to correct for torque. Approaching the hover area at speed, you need to slow down. Tilt tail down (AND collective down!), watch your Vertical Velocity Indicator against an unwanted climb and wait. Soon, you will feel the characteristic shudder, feel a growing twist to the right (add in some left rudder) and hear the rotor go from "whup, whup, whup" to a soft "Fff Fff Fff". (God, I just love it when it does that!) Once you feel you are really slow, begin to get level and watch for drift. Keep in mind that to slow down you tilt against travel and if you un-tilt too soon, you still are traveling. Tilt again. If, on the other hand, you tilt too long, you'll be backing up (or drifting sideways). Tilt the other way to slow that down.

 

Third (same for all helos): VRS means Vortex Ring State. That's the donut of air around your rotors that will drop you out of the sky viciously. Basically, your rotors blow air downwards, your motion is also going downwards, and thus your wind will begin downwards, move outwards and upwards, then your rotors will pull that air back down creating, in effect, a roiling donut of air that provides you with zero lift. If high enough, tilt out of the verticle and pull on the collective.

 

Finally, keep an ear out for your rotor speed. If you pull hard and long on the collective, the Huey's engine won't keep up and your rotor speed will drop with that nasty little alarm going off. Keep an ear out for rotor over-speed, too. It's similar to an auto-rotation maneuver except the engine will be trying to keep up with the rapidly spinning rotor.

 

Hope this helps whoever needs it.

 

Oh, by the way, if you have a clean install of the Huey, a good joystick/throttle/rudder pedal setup and your Huey still acts like a bucking bronco when you try to lift off, it's possible you have an older version of the Huey: update. Or, your joystick and collective are not centered for some reason. I use zero curves on all input devices and the Huey is still a dream to fly. I take off or land anywhere. True, the rough weather at an oil rig tends to be a fight, but that's true with real life helos, as well.

 

 

This was pretty helpful, I actually managed to land on a farp tonight, will wonders never cease.

[Fakum]

Yeah, I had the same experience last night trying to apply this,, I did see improvements, but I understand it, just need to apply it,, thanks

[DrDetroit]

Great tips guys, this will help a lot. I just picked up the DLC and absolutely love it! A nice addition to my AC hanger in DCS.

 

I've thousands of hours in all iterations of F4 since '98, LOMAC and FC, DCS A10C, etc, but I can't hover very well yet in the Huey, and my takeoffs are abysmal, but I can get it off the ground in a very ugly manner and cruise around. Man, nothing like I remember Janes Longbow from years back, which is my last time in the pilots seat in a rotary AC.

 

Anyhow, thanks again for the tips. I'm going to strap on the Huey and take her for a ride for a while tonight and get some stick time.

 

Good day,

 

DrDetroit

[=Mac=]

I flew up to the summit of some mountain northeast of Gudauta somewhere around 7,000 feet or so and tried to land on the "rooftop" angles of that mountain. Seems to me the ground effect of the rooftop (inverted V) is left on the left side and right on the right side. Cool as hell but I just can't land on it without crashing. (Not a complaint, though!)