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I am looking for 2 components and I have been all over the internet trying to finding the very best solution without breaking the bank to badly.

 

I'm starting the CMSC but I can't even get my drawing finished until I pin down the displaysal

. I've looked at oLed's and character displays and I cannot find anything that fits properly...except those really expensive 5x7 matrix displays which are almost exactly what is used in this panel. Except there $40.00 a piece. That's just a little too much for this panel.

 

So has anyone finished their CMSC panel yet. I would love to see what you did and the displays you used.

 

The other component I'm looking for is for the CDU display. I was anticipating using a typical 3.5" display with VGA output from my graphics card. That would have me installing a second video card since I'm presently out of video ports.

 

And the big question - has anyone found a display they feel is just outstanding for the CDU?

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John W

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I cheated with the OLED displays from wideview, a compromise but functional.

 

Cheers

 

Peter

 

Any pictures of it Peter?

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John W

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A quick grab with the iPhone. The PRI and SEP buttons are one panel down from the photo, have not yet got the excitement to tear the front panel apart to make the CMSC fit with all buttons (have a 737 to finish before that happens). The project started as a quick and dirty with the MFDs and Simmeters panels. Neat thing about white OLED displays is you simply add a filter to make them any colour you like, and the contrast is amazing.

 

Small correction to my first reply, seller is wide.hk.

 

 

IMG_0754_zpsuorewcfg.jpg

 

And the ebay link

http://r.ebay.com/VvznK7

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Thanks for pictures Peter. I just may have to do that if I can't get my hands on the displays that fit and look like the original.

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John W

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Hi John, not near finished status of either CMSC or CMSP.

I use same I2C 2x20 OLED as Peter on my CMSC (I think). Couldn't get the link posted to work but sure it was active on eBay some weeks ago. Display is easy to connect and interface, space efficient, clear contrast but White. Not perfect but close.

 

Got to replace my oldie 2x16 TFT in the CMSP but haven't yet

 

Complements on your build thread, a true inspiration

 

Best

/Gus

 

Edit: http://www.ebay.com/itm/IIC-I2C-2002-20x2-OLED-Module-Display-Arduino-Example-/200982177125?hash=item2ecb78a565

CMSC_CMSP_Displ.jpg.7d9fcb7272fa8ca71e106e9d2f25825a.jpg


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@Anton, Thanks. I've made some basic testing with green colored plastic with allmost no effect visual change (still White-ish). What material do you suggest ? (got a link ? searching for a material of max 1 mm thick if possible)

 

@Firedawg, strive for perfection isn't a bad thing here but CMSC Panel total width and hight, is true size here. The display is a bit short in hight but horisontal spacing and character placement is very close to the real thing. Lightpanel/faceplate will be adjusted to cover the excess areas and textures adjusted.

Agree on OSRAMs whould be ideal but out of scoop for me due due to cost


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146,05mm being the metric equivalent of 5.75 inches the max width on a control panel back plate for the left and right consoles. It may not apply to CMSP (EWIP) the center of the MIP that is not that wide....


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https://www.shapeways.com/shops/a-10c-warthog-supplies

CNCs and Laser engravers are great but they can't do squat with out a precise set of plans.

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I think it is but this is the CMSC panel of which IMHO there isn't one of in the F-16.

 

cheers

Hans

 

Ah, ok. From my work PC I couldn't see the photo on post #5, I was talking about #8.

 

Alpanumeric displays are not very expencive, though:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Seimens-Pdsp-1881-8-Character-4-70mm-5x7-Yellow-Alphanumeric-LED-Display-/281082370149?hash=item4171d09865:m:mg5-dHX_bYw-CHqDiOlJ2MA

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Sorry I posted CMSP in stead of CMSC THE F16 uses the EWMU (CMSP) that is a max width of 5.75 inch the F16 has an Advanced Threat Display instead of separate RWR and launch indicator panel. The A10 C has the EWPI (CMSC) mounted above the ADI . Used with a RWR and

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https://www.shapeways.com/shops/a-10c-warthog-supplies

CNCs and Laser engravers are great but they can't do squat with out a precise set of plans.

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The CMSC Is a pain in the Ass, due to the Screens.... I trying difrent OLED's Atm, but its not a perfect fit for any of them.

 

Might have to use the real ones, and i have no idea how to get them connected to an Arduino.

 

Ya it sure does it takes tons of time to find components that can make a replica panel.

https://www.shapeways.com/shops/a-10c-warthog-supplies

CNCs and Laser engravers are great but they can't do squat with out a precise set of plans.

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Sorry I haven't had a chance to chime in there guys but this arthritis knocked the crap out of me for almost a week. But I'm back know.

 

Yes indeed, I think the only way to go for the CMSC is the OSRAM displays. They work so well and it really is an important panel from a visual perspective. Its not like every panel is as expensive as this one tends to be but it does look very nice. These are the only shots I have so far. The display is bright and using the green acrylic dumbs that down a bit. They are definitely worth the money.

 

Please don't look at the dust or the edges as they need some touch up.

 

IMG_0500.jpg

 

IMG_0743.jpg

 

The panel is a actually rather stunning when its all clean and shiny.

 

@Gus- Thank you. I am assuming you meant my Photobucket site?

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John W

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John Wall

 

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Thanks Lars. I'm also a fan your efforts. Excellent contributions to the community.

 

It means so much to those just starting out in this endeavor. I only hope I can do the same one day.

 

 

John

Regards

John W

aka WarHog.

 

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