ilya1502 Posted June 12, 2015 Posted June 12, 2015 (edited) Hello, everyone! I think this can be of a great interest to the community, as it was for me. This is an excerption from the book "Life-Long Runway" written by the Soviet Air Force test pilot Vladimir Kondaurov. The story is that in 1976 the Soviets got an F-5E to test. Here is what the test pilot made out of it. The translation was made by myself. English is not my native language, so, please, forgive me if the text is not perfect. Edited March 10, 2022 by ilya1502 4
Kayos Posted June 12, 2015 Posted June 12, 2015 Good read, thanks! Interesting too. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
SDsc0rch Posted June 12, 2015 Posted June 12, 2015 fantastic read! i'm glad we got "several" FSU a/c to glean intel from - and in fact fight against i'm also glad that the big wheels of the bureaucratic process over there deemed it more important to protect their national pride than to take seriously the lessons gleaned from the western technology dropped in to their laps i7-4790K | Asus Sabertooth Z97 MkI | 16Gb DDR3 | EVGA GTX 980 | TM Warthog | MFG Crosswind | Panasonic TC-58AX800U [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Rangi Posted June 13, 2015 Posted June 13, 2015 Thank you. Great read and translation. PC: 6600K @ 4.5 GHz, 12GB RAM, GTX 970, 32" 2K monitor.
karambiatos Posted June 13, 2015 Posted June 13, 2015 Do you have a link to the original text, or the name of the book where it's from? A 1000 flights, a 1000 crashes, perfect record. =&arrFilter_pf[gameversion]=&arrFilter_pf[filelang]=&arrFilter_pf[aircraft]=&arrFilter_DATE_CREATE_1_DAYS_TO_BACK=&sort_by_order=TIMESTAMP_X_DESC"] Check out my random mods and things
Rombik Posted June 13, 2015 Posted June 13, 2015 Do you have a link to the original text, or the name of the book where it's from? I think it's from http://testpilot.ru/review/runway/volga/volga_xvi.htm Found by keywords: 1976 F-5E актубинск
ilya1502 Posted June 13, 2015 Author Posted June 13, 2015 Exactly. Here is the link to the book index. The parts 4 and 5 are missing though, I couldn't find an online variant with these parts :(
ilya1502 Posted June 13, 2015 Author Posted June 13, 2015 FSU a/c to ... fight against Did you mean the "Red Eagles" squadron experiment?
Cool Breeze Posted June 13, 2015 Posted June 13, 2015 Excellent article Ilya! Thank you for sharing! "For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and there you will long to return." Leonardo Da Vinci "We are tied to the ocean. And when we go back to the sea, whether it is to sail or to watch - we are going back from whence we came." John F. Kennedy
ilya1502 Posted June 13, 2015 Author Posted June 13, 2015 Excellent article Ilya! Thank you for sharing! You're welcome! A very interesting book indeed. It would be interesting to read something like this about the "Red Eagles", which set similar experiments on the other side of the ocean.
SDsc0rch Posted June 13, 2015 Posted June 13, 2015 two good books on the subject... http://www.amazon.com/Red-Eagles-Americas-General-Aviation-ebook/dp/B004X7533K and http://www.amazon.com/Scream-Eagles-Dramatic-Account-Fighter/dp/0743497244 i've got them both - a lotta good stuff in there (note - the first one is very "documentary" ---- a lot of data, not very enjoyable reading - actually had a hard time pushing through - second one is much more enjoyable) this one "may" be good - it looks interesting, but i haven't read it.. http://www.amazon.com/Americas-Secret-MiG-Squadron-CONSTANT/dp/1849089760 i7-4790K | Asus Sabertooth Z97 MkI | 16Gb DDR3 | EVGA GTX 980 | TM Warthog | MFG Crosswind | Panasonic TC-58AX800U [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
ilya1502 Posted June 13, 2015 Author Posted June 13, 2015 Thanks! It turned out that I have the first one on my wishlist at Amazon, but it is still good to learn about the others and that the first one is not the best :thumbup:
javelina1 Posted June 14, 2015 Posted June 14, 2015 Thank you, enjoyed reading that! :thumbup: MSI MAG Z790 Carbon, i9-13900k, NH-D15 cooler, 64 GB CL40 6000mhz RAM, MSI RTX4090, Yamaha 5.1 A/V Receiver, 4x 2TB Samsung 980 Pro NVMe, 1x 2TB Samsung 870 EVO SSD, Win 11 Pro, TM Warthog, Virpil WarBRD, MFG Crosswinds, 43" Samsung 4K TV, 21.5 Acer VT touchscreen, TrackIR, Varjo Aero, Wheel Stand Pro Super Warthog, Phanteks Enthoo Pro2 Full Tower Case, Seasonic GX-1200 ATX3 PSU, PointCTRL, Buttkicker 2, K-51 Helicopter Collective Control
ViFF Posted June 14, 2015 Posted June 14, 2015 ahhh.... SO THAT is where the Russians got their hands on the technology to make MiG-28!!!! just kidding Top Gun :) Excellent read! thank you very much ilya, I enjoyed the whole article and shared with my squad mates. S! 1 IAF.ViFF http://www.preflight.us Israel's Combat Flight Sim Community Website
ilya1502 Posted June 14, 2015 Author Posted June 14, 2015 Excellent read! thank you very much ilya, I enjoyed the whole article and shared with my squad mates. You're welcome! :)
tomcatter Posted June 14, 2015 Posted June 14, 2015 Very interesting to see how things, some times, can be so random in devoloping technology, good to learn. Thanks mate 1
aaron886 Posted June 14, 2015 Posted June 14, 2015 Excellent read, thank you Ilya! I think you captured the meaning perfectly.
Boberro Posted June 14, 2015 Posted June 14, 2015 Cool text! Reminder: Fighter pilots make movies. Bomber pilots make... HISTORY! :D | Also to be remembered: FRENCH TANKS HAVE ONE GEAR FORWARD AND FIVE BACKWARD :D ಠ_ಠ ツ
Hummingbird Posted June 23, 2015 Posted June 23, 2015 Just to add to this, here's a MiG-15 vs F-86 energy graph produced by a pilot called Boyd. I don't see the connection, what's your point?
streakeagle Posted June 23, 2015 Posted June 23, 2015 The article leaves me eager to get my hands on DCS F-5E. If only they had made one with more power... F-20 :) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Hummingbird Posted June 23, 2015 Posted June 23, 2015 Just information, as presented in a video. I make no claim of fact or otherwise. I was simply avoiding a new thread. But this thread is about the F-5E & MiG21 as seen through the eyes of a Soviet test pilot, where does the MiG-15 & F-86 ever come into the picture? If there's something I've learned posting on these forums it's that if you want to discuss something other than the original topic, then you need to make a new thread for it, otherwise you risk getting a warning.
speckfire Posted June 23, 2015 Posted June 23, 2015 Thanks Ilya, I really enjoyed the article. 1 Speed is life !!!
ilya1502 Posted June 24, 2015 Author Posted June 24, 2015 I was simply avoiding a new thread. I think the subject you suggested deserves a separate thread. Why not?
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