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[RaXha]

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Possible but a bit of a stretch, the JA 37 would make much more sense and is relativly similar to the Viggen externally.

 

A draken would likely only come as a full module.

 

 

The J 35 is just as likely as the JA 37, they were both in active service alongside the AJS 37. The J 35J was in active service until 1998 within the Swedish airforce.

Edited February 26, 2016 by RaXha

[Skjold]

The J 35 is just as likely as the JA 37, they were both in active service alongside the AJS 37. The J 35J was in active service until 1998 within the Swedish airforce.

 

Yeah i know, i might have but if one of them would be included the logical choice would be the Viggen due to (external) commonality and probably at least some other commonality. I am (guessing) that it would be easier for them to make an AI J 37 then it would be an J 35. The J 35 also shares weapons with the AJS however.

 

I am not saying that the Draken wouldn't make sense as an AI unit as i personally saw them in service in the 90s but i also kinda doubt Cobra would try to build up hype for an AI unit. All previous hints were related to full modules (F-14, AJS 37 & F4U-1D) why would the behaviour change now?

 

Edit: I actually don't agree with my own "A draken would likely only come as a full module." statement anymore, you're right about that one.

Edited February 26, 2016 by Skjold

[mattebubben]

The J 35 is just as likely as the JA 37, they were both in active service alongside the AJS 37. The J 35J was in active service until 1998 within the Swedish airforce.

 

And actually the last draken to leave service internationally was with Austria in 2005!!!.

 

Thats about the same time as the Fighter viggen that left service in 2004/2005

(Only reasons they left service that early was budget cuts and the fact we had over 120 Gripens made at that point)

 

And the last fighter Viggen was built in 1990 while the last draken was made in 1972 (with no new built aircraft after that only upgrades etc)

 

But yea in swedish service the Draken left active service in 1998

(by that time only one Wing was still flying the draken)

 

Thats the Same year the AJS-37 left service.

 

The AJS-37 could have been kept in service for a few more years though

(was retired mostly due to budget cuts)

 

The Draken could probably have been kept a little longer too but they were getting tired and with the JAS-37 Gripen arriving in numbers there was no reason to keep them in service.

 

Funnily Enough the nation that retired their Drakens first (Denmark) where the ones that had the most advanced variant (the Danes had a significantly different Draken variant that had no radar and was optimised for the Strike / Recce roles and in the 80s they had been upgraded with Huds and Laser targeting systems)

but they where retired in 1993 due to post cold war budget cuts where as they could easily have service into the 2000s.

 

6 of the Danish Drakens where sold to the National Test Pilot School in the US though (California)

 

Where a few are still flying (though they are about to be retired apparently and they are looking for buyers as they still have more hours on them)

Edited February 26, 2016 by mattebubben

[renhanxue]

All makt åt Tengil, vår befriare!

 

"Befriare" translates to "liberator". AI B-24 to go with the F4U?

[Frisco1522]

Or maybe Cobra is just tired of us complaining.

I mean, look at that face...

:lol::megalol:

Frisco1522

[SilentGun]

AI B-24 to go with the F4U?

 

AI B-24 to go with the F4U?....

 

AI B-24 to go with...

 

AI B-24...

 

B-24...

 

 

 

THIS... would make my life complete. (if i could fly it of course:music_whistling:)

[King_Hrothgar]

We need an AH-64 to go along with that!

 

Think about all the moneyz you'd make. Yes, greed is good. You know you want to make an AH-64. You know it would outsell the MiG-21, Viggen, F-4U and F-14 combined.:yes:

[Frisco1522]

You know it would outsell the MiG-21, Viggen, F-4U and F-14 combined.:yes:

Hmm, don't think any module can beat the Tomcat. :thumbup:

 

Frisco1522

[Muppetlord]

Hmm, don't think any module can beat the Tomcat. :thumbup:

 

This. :pilotfly:

[mattebubben]

Hmm, don't think any module can beat the Tomcat. :thumbup:

 

Frisco1522

[BlackLion213]

Think about all the moneyz you'd make. Yes, greed is good. You know you want to make an AH-64. You know it would outsell the MiG-21, Viggen, F-4U and F-14 combined.:yes:

 

Well, lets see:

 

Firebirds (1990)

 

 

Grossed $14,800,000 in domestic ticket sales (for you, I rounded up ;)).

 

Top Gun (1986)

 

 

Grossed $356,800,000 in domestic ticket sales.

 

You never know....but your horse is looking a little gimpy King Hrothgar... :smilewink:

 

-Nick

[pered]

Hrothgar always there to cause controversy.

 

 

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[Frisco1522]

Multicrew Viggen, maybe...

 

...nah. Still gotta go with the cat.

 

But I still can't wait till the Viggen comes out! :joystick:

 

Frisco1522

[King_Hrothgar]

Well, lets see:

 

Firebirds (1990)

 

Grossed $14,800,000 in domestic ticket sales (for you, I rounded up ;)).

 

Top Gun (1986)

 

Grossed $356,800,000 in domestic ticket sales.

 

You never know....but your horse is looking a little gimpy King Hrothgar... :smilewink:

 

-Nick

 

 

Hrothgar always there to cause controversy.

 

 

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Yes, because everything I say is completely serious and I'd never make a joke or use sarcasm. You should be reading this in the most boring monotone voice imaginable too.:noexpression:

 

 

:D

 

Seriously though, there is no question the AH-64 would be one of the better selling DCS modules. It's sitting next to the F-16C as the most requested module. Whether it would sell better than the F-14 or not is hard to say. I suspect it would sell slightly worse among US buyers, but should have broader international appeal given how widely used it is. Where that balances out is anyone's guess. I also have zero expectation of LNS ever making a chopper for DCS. Other than Rudel's little jest, they've shown no interest in making any. I'm looking at BST and Polychop for that kind of thing.

[BlackLion213]

Yes, because everything I say is completely serious and I'd never make a joke or use sarcasm. You should be reading this in the most boring monotone voice imaginable too.:noexpression:

 

 

:D

 

King Hrothgar, I kid!

 

I rather enjoy your posts and perspective. I merely saw the opportunity to respond to your joke with numbers that could almost seem relevant. :P

 

Talk about the pot calling the kettle black......:D

 

I would certainly buy an AH-64, BTW. Jokes about Fire Birds aside (which seems to be all that is said about that movie :)) - the AH-64 is a really intriguing machine that I would love to fly.

 

I just like to poke fun at things....you know the feeling right? ;)

 

-Nick

[BlackLion213]

Hmm, don't think any module can beat the Tomcat. :thumbup:

 

Frisco1522

 

Multicrew Viggen, maybe...

 

...nah. Still gotta go with the cat.

 

But I still can't wait till the Viggen comes out! :joystick:

 

Frisco1522

 

Great gif and picture Frisco! :D

 

-Nick

 

PS - I'm a big fan of these as well!

 

 

 

Varks and Lions! Good times!

[King_Hrothgar]

King Hrothgar, I kid!

 

I rather enjoy your posts and perspective. I merely saw the opportunity to respond to your joke with numbers that could almost seem relevant. :P

 

Talk about the pot calling the kettle black......:D

 

I would certainly buy an AH-64, BTW. Jokes about Fire Birds aside (which seems to be all that is said about that movie :)) - the AH-64 is a really intriguing machine that I would love to fly.

 

I just like to poke fun at things....you know the feeling right? ;)

 

-Nick

 

Sad thing is I didn't take that as a joke, so many here would make that kind of argument and be completely serious about it. Anyways, yeah, Firebirds is deserving of much ridicule, if for no other reason than this:

 

I think the same of Top Gun, but for some reason most give it a pass. I blame it on the abs. So many abs in that movie.:P

[BlackLion213]

I think the same of Top Gun, but for some reason most give it a pass. I blame it on the abs. So many abs in that movie.:P

 

:megalol:

 

I fondly remember Fire Birds from when I was a kid (hence I had to mention it in this thread :)). I definitely place it in the same class as Top Gun. The only real advantage that Top Gun has over all the other aviation movies (IMHO) is an abundance of really high quality flying footage. It still remains more or less second to none (excluding the likes of "Fighter Fling" of course - I'm referring to studio produced films).

 

Though it turns out that Amazon has Fire Birds on instant - I might have to take a walk down memory lane tomorrow. :D

 

-Nick

[MethWolf]

Seriously though, there is no question the AH-64 would be one of the better selling DCS modules. It's sitting next to the F-16C as the most requested module.

 

This whole "you guys should make X because it would sell well" meme is getting pretty tired.

 

There are at least 18 aircraft in DCS, depending on how you count (something like 25 if you include variants) and many more planned. Not one of them is an F-16 or an AH-64. Do you really think the reason for this is that the devs just hadn't considered potential sales?

[King_Hrothgar]

Complain to Rudel for bringing it up.

[MethWolf]

I'd love an apache if it was done well and I have no problem with Rudel bringing it up.

 

I'm just really tired of reading "this module would get so many sales" from everyone who just wants to say "I'd love this as a module if it was done well."

 

Why do we always gotta talk about business I wanna talk about planes

[Frisco1522]

Complain to Rudel for bringing it up.

That's Rudel for yah! :smilewink:

 

Frisco1522

[QuiGon]

I just noticed that Cobra has designated himself as LNSs "Delaymeister" (eng. Delay Master) in his sig :D

 

Is that new? It sure is true though :lol:

[WinterH]

Has been so for months, aptly may I add :P.

[-Rudel-]

A title of worthy distinction above and beyond the call of duty.