ebabil Posted September 18, 2015 Posted September 18, 2015 guys can you release a short ccrp and ccip video about this bird. i think some guys will decide if they are going to buy this plane by examining these sepecs. (including me lol) FC3 | UH-1 | Mi-8 | A-10C II | F/A-18 | Ka-50 III | F-14 | F-16 | AH-64 | Mi-24 | F-5 | F-15E| F-4| Tornado Persian Gulf | Nevada | Syria | NS-430 | Supercarrier // Wishlist: CH-53 | UH-60 Youtube MS FFB2 - TM Warthog - CH Pro Pedals - Trackir 5
RNeves Posted September 18, 2015 Posted September 18, 2015 I assume you mean 20 nm (not kts), that's 37 km, quite close to 40 km, it's not that bad actually 1 knot = 1nm, so it's basically the same. That' exactly what I meant! An FC F15's radar and the mirage's will be toe to toe... [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] "Your eyes only see what your mind is ready to comprehend" ________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Asus Z170 Pro Gaming - Intel I7-6700K - 16GB DDR4 @ 2400MHz HyperX Savage - Strix GTX 960 DC II 2GB OC Edition - Seagate 1TB
PiedDroit Posted September 18, 2015 Posted September 18, 2015 guys can you release a short ccrp and ccip video about this bird. i think some guys will decide if they are going to buy this plane by examining these sepecs. (including me lol) You can check this video: I know it's not DCS but it will give you an idea of the symbology and procedure. It's kind of off-topic, sorry OP :music_whistling:
Revelation Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 guys can you release a short ccrp and ccip video about this bird. i think some guys will decide if they are going to buy this plane by examining these sepecs. (including me lol) In another thread it was mentioned that they are finishing up the coding of the INS system. They can't really show true CCIP/CCRP until it's done. Win 10 Pro 64Bit | 49" UWHD AOC 5120x1440p | AMD 5900x | 64Gb DDR4 | RX 6900XT
jojo Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 guys can you release a short ccrp and ccip video about this bird. i think some guys will decide if they are going to buy this plane by examining these sepecs. (including me lol) Go see the real one here: http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2477532&postcount=10 It's Mirage 2000N but it's the same mode on Mirage 2000 C. Forget what you know about CCRP. Dive/ aiming + radar ranging/ pull up & release. That's it. The system really knows target position only after radar ranging, then it displays roll & pull up orders. Target coordinates are an help for aiming, just that. This is a fighter with secondary attack mission. During cold war training was 80% AA and 20% AG. But the aircraft has the capability to carry most of unguided AG weapons in use in FAF in late 1980' But it has BVR radar & missiles, fly by wire, internal ECM so much more advanced than Mirage III ! 1 Mirage fanatic ! I7-7700K/ MSI RTX3080/ RAM 64 Go/ SSD / TM Hornet stick-Virpil WarBRD + Virpil CM3 Throttle + MFG Crosswind + Reverb G2. Flickr gallery: https://www.flickr.com/gp/71068385@N02/728Hbi
NeilWillis Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 1 knot = 1nm, so it's basically the same. Wrong! A nm (Nautical mile) is a measure of distance. a knot is a measurement of speed - 1 knot = 1 nautical mile per hour. Very very different things.
RNeves Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 Wrong! A nm (Nautical mile) is a measure of distance. a knot is a measurement of speed - 1 knot = 1 nautical mile per hour. Very very different things. Right!!! LOL Forgot about the "per hour" detail.... :D [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] "Your eyes only see what your mind is ready to comprehend" ________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Asus Z170 Pro Gaming - Intel I7-6700K - 16GB DDR4 @ 2400MHz HyperX Savage - Strix GTX 960 DC II 2GB OC Edition - Seagate 1TB
Moos_tachu Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 (edited) i am a naval aviator in my country, so i am tired of flying old aircraft (mirage III) I would like to believe that, I really would :) But a naval aviator in Argentina would fly Super Etendard, not Mirage III. And whichever he would fly, he would not be tired about it! Especially when you know the last Mirage III's will be retired from service in a couple weeks (days?), will not be replaced, and will be deeply missed... Anyway... Coming back to the MICA, it will be decades before we get an accurate simulation of this missile (sorry guys). MICA is so classified that when French Air Force goes to Red Flag, they don't debrief MICA kills in the main room as others do, they use a separate room for authorized French personnel only, and then they share the results. At least that's what they did a few years ago... As a student, my solid fuel rocket teacher was an engineer who had worked on MICA propulsion. The only thing he knew about the missile's performance was that you can take the range from the marketing leaflet and add +xx%. But he had no idea how much xx was. So the best MICA we'll ever have in DCS would be at best a thoughtful guess from the real stuff. Edited September 19, 2015 by Moos_tachu [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Mud, wind and fire.
BlackLion213 Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 Yes, you can enter new coordinates in flight. In fact you don't even need geographical coordinates because you can enter them as polar coordinates, ie: a bearing angle and distance to fly. I was indicating that on a normal mission, the target coordinates would already been input in the INS by the ground crew or by the pilot at the start of the flight. In extremis, you can point your aircraft at the target, click on the lock and then allow the computer to calculate a CCRP solution. Thats a really interesting feature, didn't know such a thing existed, quite useful though. Can't wait to try it. Thanks to you and the rest of the Razbam team for creating this remarkable looking module. I can't wait to fly her and it came a big step closer today! Best, Nick
Cool Breeze Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 . Forget what you know about CCRP. Dive/ aiming + radar ranging/ pull up & release. That's it. So it will be like the CCRP "Toss" bombing in the FC3 SU-27? Swell, straight and level bombing always seems so boring to me! Looks like I'm going to have to make some new friends flying A-10s and the F/A-18s when they get released to do some spotting for me.:thumbup: "For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and there you will long to return." Leonardo Da Vinci "We are tied to the ocean. And when we go back to the sea, whether it is to sail or to watch - we are going back from whence we came." John F. Kennedy
Cool Breeze Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 Adding an over the shoulder capable missile to DCS would be heart breaking! Lol Your trailing a Mirage 2K, see a missile launch and it immediately comes right back at you! I would be a sight to watch, right up to the point it shreds your aircraft!:megalol: "For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and there you will long to return." Leonardo Da Vinci "We are tied to the ocean. And when we go back to the sea, whether it is to sail or to watch - we are going back from whence we came." John F. Kennedy
Chrinik Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 (edited) ok cool! will it have a ground radar mode? if i point my aircraft to lets say a tank, i will be too close if i was able to see it so a ccrp solutioon will be kind of illogical right? :joystick: Have you ever flown the SU-27, Mig-29, A10 or SU-25? Point pipper at target, hold trigger, pull level, wait for bombs to drop. Who needs a targeting pod for that? Even with a targeting pod, CCRP is considered less accurate then CCIP because there is no way you will hit the exact spot you need. The only reason the A-10C does it with the TGP is when it drops LGBs and the terminal guidance relies on the TGP to paint the target with the laser...try CCRPing in it with dumb bombs and see how much the TGP helps you...not alot. If you need to be that close to spot a tank, CCIP is your friend. Otherwise, I have no problems spotting a tank target from a couple kilometers out with the mk.1 Eyeball, putting a pipper on it, and pulling level in time. Computer does the rest. Then you go on and compare the RADAR with that of the MiG-21...serriously, have you even googled the Mirage 2000 C? You are sick of flying old tech, yet, even the A-10C in this module is old by now and we won´t ever get a truely "modern" aircraft because the tech is classified to such high degrees nobody could do anything about it. And even if you flew a modern bird yourself and made the module yourself, you´d be sued by your government and the maker of the original plane for releasing classified data to the public. So sorry, 80ies and 90ies tech it will be for a while. Edited September 19, 2015 by Chrinik [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] GCI: "Control to SEAD: Enemy SAM site 190 for 30, cleared to engage" Striker: "Copy, say Altitude?" GCI: "....Deck....it´s a SAM site..." Striker: "Oh...." Fighter: "Yeah, those pesky russian build, baloon based SAMs." -Red-Lyfe Best way to troll DCS community, make an F-16A, see how dedicated the fans really are :thumbup:
thaisocom Posted September 22, 2015 Posted September 22, 2015 I wonder if A-10C can provide a buddy lase for M2000? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] CM HAF-X | Corsair HX1000i | ASUS P8P67Pro | Intel Core i7 2600 @ 4.0GHz | Corsair CWCH70 | G.Skill 8GB DDR3 1600MHz | ASUS GeForce GTX 970 4GB | Plextor M5Pro 256GB | WD Caviar Black 1TB * 2 RAID 0 | WD Caviar Green 2TB | Windows 10 Professional X64 | TM HOTAS Warthog | Saitek Pro Flight Rudder Pedal
Aginor Posted September 22, 2015 Posted September 22, 2015 (edited) I certainly hope so, and so do others. The question that hasn't been answered yet (AFAIK) is whether (and if yes how) it will be possible to set the laser code. EDIT: But that is a bit OT in this topic, which is about active missiles Edited September 22, 2015 by Aginor DCSW weapons cheat sheet speed cheat sheet
NakedSquirrel Posted September 23, 2015 Posted September 23, 2015 I'm curious. How does the Super 530 performance compare to the Aim-7 Sparrow and R-27 performance? I don't know much about the missile type. It seems like it has somewhat similar stats, but I can't find very good sources on it. Modules: A10C, AV8, M2000C, AJS-37, MiG-21, MiG-19, MiG-15, F86F, F5E, F14A/B, F16C, F18C, P51, P47, Spitfire IX, Bf109K, Fw190-D, UH-1, Ka-50, SA342 Gazelle, Mi8, Christian Eagle II, CA, FC3
Chrinik Posted September 23, 2015 Posted September 23, 2015 From what I read from RAZBAMs updates, the Super 530D will pretty much outrange both of them by a large margin. But we´ll have to wait and see. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] GCI: "Control to SEAD: Enemy SAM site 190 for 30, cleared to engage" Striker: "Copy, say Altitude?" GCI: "....Deck....it´s a SAM site..." Striker: "Oh...." Fighter: "Yeah, those pesky russian build, baloon based SAMs." -Red-Lyfe Best way to troll DCS community, make an F-16A, see how dedicated the fans really are :thumbup:
Aginor Posted September 23, 2015 Posted September 23, 2015 It is a pretty good missile judging from all I could read about it. But I agree, we will have to wait and see how it is implemented. DCSW weapons cheat sheet speed cheat sheet
NakedSquirrel Posted September 23, 2015 Posted September 23, 2015 From what I read from RAZBAMs updates, the Super 530D will pretty much outrange both of them by a large margin. But we´ll have to wait and see. Hopefully it's not way out of the ballpark. It's a little heavier with a slightly smaller warhead than the Aim-7, which might give it a few km boost. It certainly has a unique fin configuration I suppose it is difficult to tell until it is put into the physics of the game, since the game calculates a bit more than just 'max range' for missiles. Modules: A10C, AV8, M2000C, AJS-37, MiG-21, MiG-19, MiG-15, F86F, F5E, F14A/B, F16C, F18C, P51, P47, Spitfire IX, Bf109K, Fw190-D, UH-1, Ka-50, SA342 Gazelle, Mi8, Christian Eagle II, CA, FC3
Hook47 Posted September 24, 2015 Posted September 24, 2015 Wont we get any active missiles like the MICA? The module seems absolutely fantastic but this absence will make it very weak against a mig29 or f15. Also, we will get ccip and ccrp modes, but how will those work if the mirage doesnt come with target designators? I kill MiG 29s and F-15s with the MiG-21... The mirage will be anything but weak! :megalol:
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