dartuil Posted December 21, 2015 Posted December 21, 2015 I really think they should do a Mirage 2000E its the Export variant of the 2000C so it should require a minimal amount of work/time compared to a whole different aircraft. Its able to carry a Laser/TV targeting pod making the 2000E able to use Laser guided munitions like GBUs and the AS-30L missile. It also used with the Armat sead missile by multiple nations. So that would be a great way to get a multirole aircraft for minimal effort since its visually identical to the 2000C and only very minimal changes to the cockpit (the radar display having other modes since its able to show the picture from the targeting pod aswell) But other then that its just a slightly weaker radar, (RDM radar instead of the RDI in the 2000C being modeld) aswell as some different air-ground modes since it can use guided munitions. It also has the same engine so should have the same flight model as the mirage 2000C. I think this would be a great addon to the mirage 2000C module (maby make it a 10-20$ upgrade for owners of the mirage 2000C) And also since it would not require as much work as a complete new aircraft it might even be out before the F/A-18 making it the first "true" multirole aircraft in the game (wich would be bound to bring more customers) +1 I agree on this. i7 2600k -- Noctua NH-D14--Asrock Z75 Pro3--ASUS GTX970 Strix --16Go Ripjaws X 1333--Thermaltake Smart M650--CoolerMaster Silencio 652S--AOC E2752VQ-- Sandisk Extreme II 480GB--Saitek X-52 Pro --SAITEK PZ35 Pedals
Hummingbird Posted December 21, 2015 Posted December 21, 2015 F-14 and Typhoon will do the same!! I actually think more people are interested in flying the F-16 than those two, mostly because of the fact that it's the most widely fielded of the 4th gen US fighters. Personally I want to fly the F-14 the most and thankfully LS are making that one, but I think overall more people want to fly the F-16.
SparxOne Posted December 21, 2015 Posted December 21, 2015 I actually think more people are interested in flying the F-16 than those two, mostly because of the fact that it's the most widely fielded of the 4th gen US fighters. Personally I want to fly the F-14 the most and thankfully LS are making that one, but I think overall more people want to fly the F-16. Thank you very much, seems like you've said it all !
The_Pharoah Posted December 22, 2015 Posted December 22, 2015 I vote for the F-16. Its in use in many air forces in the world today and has seen extensive combat in Iraq/Afghanistan/Balkans/Israel/Libya/Egypt/Syria/etc. It can do A2A/A2G/SEAD. To top it all off...it is a VERY sexy airplane. 'nuff said. AMD AM4 Ryzen7 3700X 3.6ghz/MSI AM4 ATX MAG X570 Tomahawk DDR4/32GB DDR4 G.Skill 3600mhz/1TB 970 Evo SSD/ASUS RTX2070 8gb Super
tinkmiester Posted December 22, 2015 Posted December 22, 2015 Got to be the harrier , we need a modern day carrier attack . i have the harrier for p3d its awesome plus i want the f18 but wish some one would give us a clue who and when its coming in from ,
Charly_Owl Posted December 22, 2015 Posted December 22, 2015 For me the choice that would make the most sense is the A7. I always wanted to fly one in DCS and it could potentially pave the way for a Vietnam theater. ;) Chuck's DCS Tutorial Library Chuck's Guides on Mudspike Chuck's Youtube Channel Chuck's Patreon
infiltrat0rN7 Posted December 23, 2015 Posted December 23, 2015 The Mudhen, this game needs more multiroles
PiedDroit Posted December 23, 2015 Posted December 23, 2015 (edited) The Mudhen, this game needs more multirolesWhat's Mudhen? Edit: F-15E, I leave that here, might be useful to those who are not intimate with it. Edited December 23, 2015 by PiedDroit
Lt_Maverick Posted December 23, 2015 Posted December 23, 2015 Got to be the harrier , we need a modern day carrier attack . i have the harrier for p3d its awesome plus i want the f18 but wish some one would give us a clue who and when its coming in from , I want to PM you about p3d. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] "The first time I ever saw a jet, I shot it down."- General Chuck Yeager, USAF, describing his first confrontation with a Me262. JayRac3r/Lt_Mav YouTube Channel
Hummingbird Posted December 23, 2015 Posted December 23, 2015 Got to be the harrier , we need a modern day carrier attack . i have the harrier for p3d its awesome plus i want the f18 but wish some one would give us a clue who and when its coming in from , ED are making the F/A-18C which will likely be coming out sometime within the first half of 2016. So you can rest assured on that one :) Really the F-16 is probably the aircraft which will sell the most copies if it gets chosen.
Lt_Maverick Posted December 23, 2015 Posted December 23, 2015 ED are making the F/A-18C which will likely be coming out sometime within the first half of 2016. So you can rest assured on that one :) Really the F-16 is probably the aircraft which will sell the most copies if it gets chosen. Why are so many fixated on the 16 do you think? Just curious. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] "The first time I ever saw a jet, I shot it down."- General Chuck Yeager, USAF, describing his first confrontation with a Me262. JayRac3r/Lt_Mav YouTube Channel
Kev2go Posted December 23, 2015 Posted December 23, 2015 Hope to see the a7 corsair. A Nam era jet attacker. A7 was used by the usaf too. It wasn't exclusive to the Navy on carrier groups. Build: Windows 10 64 bit Pro Case/Tower: Corsair Graphite 760tm ,Asus Strix Z790 Motherboard, Intel Core i7 12700k ,Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 64gb ram (3600 mhz) , (Asus strix oc edition) Nvidia RTX 3080 12gb , Evga g2 850 watt psu, Hardrives ; Samsung 970 EVo, , Samsung evo 860 pro 1 TB SSD, Samsung evo 850 pro 1TB SSD, WD 1TB HDD
Kev2go Posted December 23, 2015 Posted December 23, 2015 (edited) Why are so many fixated on the 16 do you think? Just curious. Why not? F16 is amazing. I mean it was initially designed as a lightweight dogfight to compliment/ support f15 fleets in the cold war. With c variants you've got a modern 4th Gen jet capable of arming amrams. Capable of multirole missions bombing . Using smart munitions. It's an all rounder kind of plane. It's also probably the most plentiful of us jet fighter exports of the 4th generation. You'd be able to pilot the f16 under many countries. I mean there no reason not to want it F18c will be fantastic but f16c" in dcs is a must have. Edited December 23, 2015 by Kev2go Build: Windows 10 64 bit Pro Case/Tower: Corsair Graphite 760tm ,Asus Strix Z790 Motherboard, Intel Core i7 12700k ,Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 64gb ram (3600 mhz) , (Asus strix oc edition) Nvidia RTX 3080 12gb , Evga g2 850 watt psu, Hardrives ; Samsung 970 EVo, , Samsung evo 860 pro 1 TB SSD, Samsung evo 850 pro 1TB SSD, WD 1TB HDD
mig29movt Posted December 23, 2015 Posted December 23, 2015 (edited) Why are so many fixated on the 16 do you think? Just curious. Just have look at how many countries are using it: F-16 operators That's why I'm more interested in an F/A-18C, my country uses it :thumbup: edit: to be honest, I also prefer it more because you see it being used in operations a lot more then the F-16 (that's maybe because it's used by the Navy and not on the mainland?) Edited December 23, 2015 by mig29movt [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Waiting to build a F/A-18C home-pit... ex - Swiss Air Force Pilatus PC-21 Ground Crew SFM? AFM? EFM?? What's this? i7-5960X (8 core @3.00GHz)¦32GB DDR4 RAM¦Asus X99-WS/IPMI¦2x GTX970 4GB SLI¦Samsung 850 PRO 512GB SSD¦TrackIR 5 Pro¦TM Warthog¦MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals
Lt_Maverick Posted December 23, 2015 Posted December 23, 2015 There was a vote somewhere and the AH 64 got top votes for rotorcraft and the 16 for fixed wing. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] "The first time I ever saw a jet, I shot it down."- General Chuck Yeager, USAF, describing his first confrontation with a Me262. JayRac3r/Lt_Mav YouTube Channel
Hummingbird Posted December 24, 2015 Posted December 24, 2015 Why are so many fixated on the 16 do you think? Just curious. Because it's the most famous and widely used of the legacy fighters, an icon within most western airforces and a true multi role fighter.
Ultra Posted December 24, 2015 Posted December 24, 2015 I think a Mig-23 or Mig-25 would go well with our US legacy fighters. The PFM/ASM NATO planes we are getting (M2K, F-18, F-14) greatly outclass our only Soviet PFM/ASM plane, the Mig-21.
Buzzles Posted December 24, 2015 Posted December 24, 2015 (edited) Honestly, for the people wanting the F16, the F18 does pretty much the same thing as it and we're definitely going to get one in the not too distant future. Not to say an F16 wouldn't be nice as it's iconic and can do quite a lot. As such, I'd rather see an aircraft that brings something new to the table like a Harrier. Razbam have already done a Harrier or two for other sims, it'd bring something new in the form of a STOL/VTOL aircraft. Imagine missions where you're operating from a FARP or similar. Either that or an actual bomber of some sort. DCS doesn't have a dedicated bomber yet from any era. Edited December 24, 2015 by Buzzles Fancy trying Star Citizen? Click here!
Vampyre Posted December 25, 2015 Posted December 25, 2015 Honestly, for the people wanting the F16, the F18 does pretty much the same thing as it and we're definitely going to get one in the not too distant future. Not to say an F16 wouldn't be nice as it's iconic and can do quite a lot. Either that or an actual bomber of some sort. DCS doesn't have a dedicated bomber yet from any era. The F-16 is definatly not on my list of must have modules for DCS. There will be an F-16 in DCS eventually but in my opinion there are much more interesting fixed wing aircraft that have not been modeled at all in a hi fidelity combat flight simulator. Presently, I am exceedingly happy with LNS who have taken on my top two favorites, the F-14 Tomcat and F4U Corsair. I'd like to see an F-4E/G, F-111D/E/F, A-6E, F-105D/G, Tu-22M-3 Backfire, Tu-22KD Blinder, B-1B, OV-10A/D, Jaguar GR1/3, Tornado IDS, MC-130H/AC-130H... Heck I'd even want a KC-10A Extender which has both hose and drogue as well as the flying boom refueling systems and can carry cargo before any version of F-16. Truly superior pilots are those that use their superior judgment to avoid those situations where they might have to use their superior skills. If you ever find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck! "If at first you don't succeed, Carrier Landings are not for you!"
Kev2go Posted December 25, 2015 Posted December 25, 2015 (edited) The F-16 is definatly not on my list of must have modules for DCS. There will be an F-16 in DCS eventually but in my opinion there are much more interesting fixed wing aircraft that have not been modeled at all in a hi fidelity combat flight simulator. Presently, I am exceedingly happy with LNS who have taken on my top two favorites, the F-14 Tomcat and F4U Corsair. I'd like to see an F-4E/G, F-111D/E/F, A-6E, F-105D/G, Tu-22M-3 Backfire, Tu-22KD Blinder, B-1B, OV-10A/D, Jaguar GR1/3, Tornado IDS, MC-130H/AC-130H... Heck I'd even want a KC-10A Extender which has both hose and drogue as well as the flying boom refueling systems and can carry cargo before any version of F-16. anything iconic within 4th generation as the f16 is a a must have for dcs. especially due to the fact how widely exported it is. http://www.f-16.net/f-16_users.html Considering multiple 3rd party projects make planes theres no reason to think they will come one at a time or in that order. anywas the F4E there should be a mig23, and perhaps Mig17F vs the f105 & a7 series so we can have a nam scenario. Cant have an F105 without adding some of the Soviet opponents form the vietnam era. Edited December 25, 2015 by Kev2go Build: Windows 10 64 bit Pro Case/Tower: Corsair Graphite 760tm ,Asus Strix Z790 Motherboard, Intel Core i7 12700k ,Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 64gb ram (3600 mhz) , (Asus strix oc edition) Nvidia RTX 3080 12gb , Evga g2 850 watt psu, Hardrives ; Samsung 970 EVo, , Samsung evo 860 pro 1 TB SSD, Samsung evo 850 pro 1TB SSD, WD 1TB HDD
PiedDroit Posted December 25, 2015 Posted December 25, 2015 It's interesting how we can see two different type of opinions emerge, post after post. What's funny is both are soo right :) (A) Yes, the F-16 is super iconic and it would be super awesome to have it available in DCS. (B) But wait! There's a F/A-18C on the way, that is doing pretty much what a F-16C does (more or less), and there are plenty other aircraft that could use some love. I'm more a (B) guy at the moment but that could change in the future :D No need to answer (A) to that post, I know, I agree fully! It will come sooner or later I guess.
Paradox Posted December 25, 2015 Posted December 25, 2015 I prefer the F-18C anyway to the F-16 so for me the question is already answered
Flagrum Posted December 25, 2015 Posted December 25, 2015 So Razbam, now that the Mirage is almost out of the oven. Care to tell us which of your fine aircraft is next for DCS? Harrier GR.9 Source: http://www.476vfightergroup.com/content.php?295-476th-Podcast-Episode-10
BlackLion213 Posted December 25, 2015 Posted December 25, 2015 Harrier GR.9 Source: http://www.476vfightergroup.com/content.php?295-476th-Podcast-Episode-10 I heard the same. It's a great podcast BTW. The Harrier GR.7/9 is an excellent choice, both because it is an excellent aircraft and because of it's commonality with the AV-8B. Razbam also mentioned trying to do a Night Attack AV-8B if the Gr.7/9 goes well. I was hoping for the A-7E, it's one of my top 5 favorite aircraft (with the understanding that my top 3 are all F-14s...:D). But I think that the Harrier is a better choice, mostly because operating a VSTOL aircraft like that will offer a totally different experience from any other fixed wing aircraft in DCS. I am all for diversity in DCS and it will certainly help to bring more users/customers into DCS. Hopefully, they will still do an A-7 in the not-to-distant future. It would pair up really well with the upcoming F-14A and could share theaters and carrier ops. Still, I am very excited to try the Harrier and I hope the project goes well. I will definitely buy it! -Nick
Ultra Posted December 25, 2015 Posted December 25, 2015 Wow, the Harrier GR7/GR9, very impressive. This is very interesting as they will become some of the more modern dedicated attack aircraft we have PFM/ASM of, in addition to the A-10C of course. They will compliment the Warthog well!
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