tusler Posted September 24, 2015 Posted September 24, 2015 please forgive the noob dumb question but what will this ACFT use to attack , like SA-** SAM sites? Will it carry a standoff missile or will we toss bombing against SA13? Thanks Ask Jesus for Forgiveness before you takeoff :pilotfly:! PC=Win 10 HP 64 bit, Gigabyte Z390, Intel I5-9600k, 32 gig ram, Nvidia 2060 Super 8gig video. TM HOTAS WARTHOG with Saitek Pedals
myHelljumper Posted September 24, 2015 Posted September 24, 2015 It is not a primary A-G plane, I don't think it would be ever employed to strike on SAM Helljumper - M2000C Guru Helljumper's Youtube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCK3rTjezLUxPbWHvJJ3W2fA
Revelation Posted September 24, 2015 Posted September 24, 2015 please forgive the noob dumb question but what will this ACFT use to attack , like SA-** SAM sites? Will it carry a standoff missile or will we toss bombing against SA13? Thanks You will have to toss them or drop them. Currently in DCS an aircraft can travel at 35k feet and at 550 knots, drop a mk82 from outside of 13 NM out from a target area. If you increase your altitude and speed you can increase your standoff range a bit more. What that simply means is that you can drop an LGB from a long ways out and let a JTAC on the ground guide your bomb on target. You can try with dumb bombs, though you will need some way of wind correction and I don't know if we will have that in this module. Win 10 Pro 64Bit | 49" UWHD AOC 5120x1440p | AMD 5900x | 64Gb DDR4 | RX 6900XT
tusler Posted September 24, 2015 Author Posted September 24, 2015 Thanks for the info, i think i will buy this module anyway cause it is cool and will provide hours of fun flying around getting shot down for what in reality is pennies. I do wish DCS would implement some weapon for wild weasel even if it was not used in reality just for the fun of it. Either that or give us a F-16 which does have anti sam capability. Ask Jesus for Forgiveness before you takeoff :pilotfly:! PC=Win 10 HP 64 bit, Gigabyte Z390, Intel I5-9600k, 32 gig ram, Nvidia 2060 Super 8gig video. TM HOTAS WARTHOG with Saitek Pedals
dotChuckles Posted September 24, 2015 Posted September 24, 2015 Su25t can perform SEAD tasks and is available on both blue and red coalitions. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
jojo Posted September 25, 2015 Posted September 25, 2015 You will have to toss them or drop them. Currently in DCS an aircraft can travel at 35k feet and at 550 knots, drop a mk82 from outside of 13 NM out from a target area. If you increase your altitude and speed you can increase your standoff range a bit more. What that simply means is that you can drop an LGB from a long ways out and let a JTAC on the ground guide your bomb on target. You can try with dumb bombs, though you will need some way of wind correction and I don't know if we will have that in this module. That would be difficult in M2000C, you can't perform level release on coordinates. You would need a Mirage 2000D for that release. It's not SEAD aircraft... Mirage fanatic ! I7-7700K/ MSI RTX3080/ RAM 64 Go/ SSD / TM Hornet stick-Virpil WarBRD + Virpil CM3 Throttle + MFG Crosswind + Reverb G2. Flickr gallery: https://www.flickr.com/gp/71068385@N02/728Hbi
myHelljumper Posted September 25, 2015 Posted September 25, 2015 It has been said that the 2000C has CCIP AND CCRP delivery methods. Helljumper - M2000C Guru Helljumper's Youtube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCK3rTjezLUxPbWHvJJ3W2fA
Revelation Posted September 25, 2015 Posted September 25, 2015 That would be difficult in M2000C, you can't perform level release on coordinates. You would need a Mirage 2000D for that release. It's not SEAD aircraft... Maybe you are right, but M2M demonstrated a level CCRP release in FSX. Granted that is FSX... They actually demonstrated a slight dive toss with CCRP and level drop with CCRP. Win 10 Pro 64Bit | 49" UWHD AOC 5120x1440p | AMD 5900x | 64Gb DDR4 | RX 6900XT
jojo Posted September 25, 2015 Posted September 25, 2015 It has been said that the 2000C has CCIP AND CCRP delivery methods. Yes, but CCRP in M2000C is not what is it on F-16C... On M2000C it's dive attack, with radar ranging and release during pull up. Mirage fanatic ! I7-7700K/ MSI RTX3080/ RAM 64 Go/ SSD / TM Hornet stick-Virpil WarBRD + Virpil CM3 Throttle + MFG Crosswind + Reverb G2. Flickr gallery: https://www.flickr.com/gp/71068385@N02/728Hbi
PFunk1606688187 Posted September 25, 2015 Posted September 25, 2015 What a fantastically inefficient method of SEAD! Warning: Nothing I say is automatically correct, even if I think it is.
myHelljumper Posted September 25, 2015 Posted September 25, 2015 I remember that zeus say it can delivery a bomb on a specific point that has been entered in the INS by level CCRP, I might be wrong... Helljumper - M2000C Guru Helljumper's Youtube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCK3rTjezLUxPbWHvJJ3W2fA
jojo Posted September 25, 2015 Posted September 25, 2015 What a fantastically inefficient method of SEAD! Why the hell an Air Defense fighter should perform SEAD ??????? Does F-15A/C perform SEAD ? Fxxz no ! Mirage fanatic ! I7-7700K/ MSI RTX3080/ RAM 64 Go/ SSD / TM Hornet stick-Virpil WarBRD + Virpil CM3 Throttle + MFG Crosswind + Reverb G2. Flickr gallery: https://www.flickr.com/gp/71068385@N02/728Hbi
myHelljumper Posted September 25, 2015 Posted September 25, 2015 Why the hell an Air Defense fighter should perform SEAD ??????? Does F-15A/C perform SEAD ? Fxxz no ! +1 Helljumper - M2000C Guru Helljumper's Youtube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCK3rTjezLUxPbWHvJJ3W2fA
VincentLaw Posted September 25, 2015 Posted September 25, 2015 (edited) Why the hell an Air Defense fighter should perform SEAD ???????Maybe you should ask Dassault what they were thinking when they had the idea. Edited September 25, 2015 by VincentLaw [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
jojo Posted September 25, 2015 Posted September 25, 2015 Maybe you should ask Dassault what they were thinking when they had the idea. Mirage 2000 is a family. An airframe with different weapon systems. We won't get anywhere until you understand the difference between Mirage 2000 E (export RDM) and French Mirage 2000 C RDI specialized in air defense... Mirage fanatic ! I7-7700K/ MSI RTX3080/ RAM 64 Go/ SSD / TM Hornet stick-Virpil WarBRD + Virpil CM3 Throttle + MFG Crosswind + Reverb G2. Flickr gallery: https://www.flickr.com/gp/71068385@N02/728Hbi
Moos_tachu Posted September 25, 2015 Posted September 25, 2015 ... and that in France the SEAD mission was left to the Jaguar with AS37, and later to the Mirage 2000D / Rafale with GBU / AASM / Scalp. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Mud, wind and fire.
PiedDroit Posted September 25, 2015 Posted September 25, 2015 (edited) lol, can I complain that the Mirage 2000 has a hook but won't operate from an aircraft carrier? What about vertical takeoff? It has a huge engine! Please implement vertical takeoff! Mirage III V could do it after all. I know people are desperate for another SEAD aircraft but not every new module is automatically one, this is getting embarrassing... Edited September 25, 2015 by PiedDroit Disclaimer: First 2 lines are a joke.
Chrinik Posted September 29, 2015 Posted September 29, 2015 I think people are so giddy for the F/A-18 C they literally wish every plane is one. Since they can´t wait. I mean, the F/A-18 C will be the first aircraft (I consider FC3 to be toys) in this sim that can literally do everything. Carrierops? Check. GBUs? Check. ARMs? Check. ASMs? Check. Mavericks? Check. Air to Air? 12 Spamraam check. So yeah, M-2000 C S5 RDI can not use ARM, ASM or any of that sort...we should be lucky it can even drop GBUs, even if they require buddy laze. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] GCI: "Control to SEAD: Enemy SAM site 190 for 30, cleared to engage" Striker: "Copy, say Altitude?" GCI: "....Deck....it´s a SAM site..." Striker: "Oh...." Fighter: "Yeah, those pesky russian build, baloon based SAMs." -Red-Lyfe Best way to troll DCS community, make an F-16A, see how dedicated the fans really are :thumbup:
Wizard_03 Posted September 29, 2015 Posted September 29, 2015 I think people are so giddy for the F/A-18 C they literally wish every plane is one. Since they can´t wait. I mean, the F/A-18 C will be the first aircraft (I consider FC3 to be toys) in this sim that can literally do everything. Carrierops? Check. GBUs? Check. ARMs? Check. ASMs? Check. Mavericks? Check. Air to Air? 12 Spamraam check. So yeah, M-2000 C S5 RDI can not use ARM, ASM or any of that sort...we should be lucky it can even drop GBUs, even if they require buddy laze. I would have to agree with you, I personally cannot wait for the F-18 for all the reasons you mentioned, its a fighter with few limitations on what it can do. However the mirage 2000 RDI version we are getting is a dedicated A2A fighter and is very well suited to that job. People need to appreciate that. F-18C is a like a swiss army knife and that's how it was made and this thing is a just knife (a great knife but not much more) other versions of the mirage 2000 are more mutirole. But I'm perfectly happy with the one we are getting, once the typhoon and F-14 are out we will have a good assortment of pure A2A platforms which I think is what we need. DCS world already has many CAS and A2G platforms. DCS F/A-18C :sorcerer:
Voodooflies Posted October 1, 2015 Posted October 1, 2015 M2M M2000C includes ARMAT missile which is an anti-radiation missile. It also have Mk82, Mk82 SE, EXOCET, rockets, even GBU 12 (source: M2M FB page). So for instance, the delivery of a GBU 12 will require a JTAC or a buddy lase. However, I wonder if you can shoot ARMAT missile on INS coordinates from the PCM. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Cool Breeze Posted October 1, 2015 Posted October 1, 2015 M2M M2000C includes ARMAT missile which is an anti-radiation missile. It also have Mk82, Mk82 SE, EXOCET, rockets, even GBU 12 (source: M2M FB page). So for instance, the delivery of a GBU 12 will require a JTAC or a buddy lase. However, I wonder if you can shoot ARMAT missile on INS coordinates from the PCM. You may want to read this thread. http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=147288 The RAZBAM version for DCS only has an RDI radar that is optimized for Air to Air and not capable of using the ARMAT, Excocet.:( I would have liked to have them as well, but as our French friends say, C'est La Vie! We are going to have to be content with the Su-25T for the Iron Hand mission just a bit longer until the F/A-18C comes out. Till then:book::joystick::pilotfly::thumbup: "For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and there you will long to return." Leonardo Da Vinci "We are tied to the ocean. And when we go back to the sea, whether it is to sail or to watch - we are going back from whence we came." John F. Kennedy
Isegrim Posted October 1, 2015 Posted October 1, 2015 (edited) Su25t can perform SEAD tasks and is available on both blue and red coalitions. This is not really correct. The Countrys SU25-T is available for, can be all dropped into one Coalition by the Mission Builder. Just as a sidenode. :book: Edited October 1, 2015 by Isegrim "Blyat Naaaaa" - Izlom
WildBillKelsoe Posted October 1, 2015 Posted October 1, 2015 razbam demonstrated a couple of years ago the VTOL capability in DCS, they posted it on your tube. AWAITING ED NEW DAMAGE MODEL IMPLEMENTATION FOR WW2 BIRDS Fat T is above, thin T is below. Long T is faster, Short T is slower. Open triangle is AWACS, closed triangle is your own sensors. Double dash is friendly, Single dash is enemy. Circle is friendly. Strobe is jammer. Strobe to dash is under 35 km. HDD is 7 times range key. Radar to 160 km, IRST to 10 km. Stay low, but never slow.
HiJack Posted October 1, 2015 Posted October 1, 2015 razbam demonstrated a couple of years ago the VTOL capability in DCS, they posted it on your tube. Yes, this one:
WildBillKelsoe Posted October 14, 2015 Posted October 14, 2015 no it was a true harrier in dcs in batumi with F2 view. it was on razbams channel, which has many names, razbam, radzamb, etc.. I can't find it. Perhaps they took it down. AWAITING ED NEW DAMAGE MODEL IMPLEMENTATION FOR WW2 BIRDS Fat T is above, thin T is below. Long T is faster, Short T is slower. Open triangle is AWACS, closed triangle is your own sensors. Double dash is friendly, Single dash is enemy. Circle is friendly. Strobe is jammer. Strobe to dash is under 35 km. HDD is 7 times range key. Radar to 160 km, IRST to 10 km. Stay low, but never slow.
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