Flying the KA-50in DCS 1.5

[Isegrim]

I feel the UPKs are a bit underrated, actually. Still, Rockets area great panic weapon.

 

In my opinion the 23mm Pods are one of the most effective weapons systems for the KA-50.

 

Here is Why.

> It saves ammunition for the gun.

> You can fire more salvos with more accuracy than the S-8s can deliver.

> They are surprisingly powerfull.

> They look cool.:D

> Fire without TA or Shkval on is more easy.

> Can take out all unarmored or low armored vehicles including

BTR's/Strelas/Mummvees/MTLB's and such other Clutter wich is not

worth a single 30mm 2A42 round.

 

The only Downsides for me are.

> They Can also run out of Ammunition:cry:

> You cant drop them. :pain:

 

ISE

Edited October 11, 2015 by Isegrim

[majapahit]

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[majapahit]

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[MiG21bisFishbedL]

In my opinion the 23mm Pods are one of the most effective weapons systems for the KA-50.

 

Here is Why.

> It saves ammunition for the gun.

> You can fire more salvos with more accuracy than the S-8s can deliver.

> They are surprisingly powerfull.

> They look cool.:D

> Fire without TA or Shkval on is more easy.

> Can take out all unarmored or low armored vehicles including

BTR's/Strelas/Mummvees/MTLB's and such other Clutter wich is not

worth a single 30mm 2A42 round.

 

The only Downsides for me are.

> They Can also run out of Ammunition:cry:

> You cant drop them. :pain:

 

ISE

 

It's for those reasons I like keeping a load out with S-8KOMs and the UPKs titled "COIN/Soft Targets."

[dburne]

My goodness, I am getting there. I have been reading and studying the manual for the past several days, with some flying sessions in between. I am up to almost page 200 in the manual, have been studying on the different cockpit instrument panels along with the switches and levers.

Trying to familiarize myself with them, then load up a flight and try to apply some of what I have learned, by seeing the same in the actual cockpit and starting to understand some of those instruments I am looking upon.

 

I have several different modules for DCS, my problem previously has been I just seemed overwhelmed by it all and never took the time to actually truly learn one specific module. I really like the Ka-50, so I am determined to learn this thing and get to where eventually I can actually fly a combat mission and know what I am doing. Ultimately to do some good campaign flying hopefully.

 

So I am still plugging away!

[Reaper6]

My goodness, I am getting there. I have been reading and studying the manual for the past several days, with some flying sessions in between. I am up to almost page 200 in the manual, have been studying on the different cockpit instrument panels along with the switches and levers.

Trying to familiarize myself with them, then load up a flight and try to apply some of what I have learned, by seeing the same in the actual cockpit and starting to understand some of those instruments I am looking upon.

 

I have several different modules for DCS, my problem previously has been I just seemed overwhelmed by it all and never took the time to actually truly learn one specific module. I really like the Ka-50, so I am determined to learn this thing and get to where eventually I can actually fly a combat mission and know what I am doing. Ultimately to do some good campaign flying hopefully.

 

So I am still plugging away!

 

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=150087

 

Reaper6

[FeistyLemur]

So I'm starting to get a lot more comfortable with the controls in my training. Been practicing around Mozdok in the cold start mission. Moving around the tarmac, landing on rooftops in the city for practice.

 

Do you think they kick you out of the Russian air force if you pull up to the stop lights and start a lowrider bouncing contest with your KA-50?

 

[dburne]

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=150087

 

Reaper6

 

Thanks , we have the grandkids this weekend so I will be busy with them. Plus I don't have a mic or TeamSpeak yet... Looks like it will be very informative!

[dburne]

So I'm starting to get a lot more comfortable with the controls in my training. Been practicing around Mozdok in the cold start mission. Moving around the tarmac, landing on rooftops in the city for practice.

 

Do you think they kick you out of the Russian air force if you pull up to the stop lights and start a lowrider bouncing contest with your KA-50?

 

 

Lol, that is the same mission I am doing all my practicing in, mainly doing the taking off and then some cross country flying and then back. Going to have to try that rooftop thing.

[AussieFX]

I would recommend you go through Wags training videos and get yourself onto the shooting range mission and destroy some trucks.

 

And get familiar with auto-hover, it enables you to get your head into the cockpit and sort out your weapons. Something that's not so important in real life where you can feel for the switches but in the sim you need to look. I do anyway.

 

I'm one of those who also thinks it's not a good idea to read the manual front to back, htere's is too much info to retain and you will end up more confused than ever. Refer to it as needed.

 

Enjoy, it's a real accomplishment to master.

She's like a wife...if you don't use it, you lose it! :P

[dburne]

I would recommend you go through Wags training videos and get yourself onto the shooting range mission and destroy some trucks.

 

And get familiar with auto-hover, it enables you to get your head into the cockpit and sort out your weapons.

 

Thanks for the tips!

I do think studying the manual in regards to the cockpit instruments along with their location and what they do is helping me, once I get through that part I will take a break from it and check out some of those videos.

 

I have become somewhat proficient in my flying, and also auto hovering as well. I am excited to get to where I can learn more about navigating and weapon employment, really looking forward to that.

 

Thanks,

[FeistyLemur]

I did my first successful combat campaign mission tonight in 1.5 in the KA-50. The escort convoy mission. I was really struggling with it then I got my second monitor set up with the shkval and abris finally. Beautiful to have a half screen shkval.

 

Slewing the cannon around with trackir and the shkval slaved to your helmet mounted display mowing down soldiers with HE rounds is really awesome.

 

My love of helicopters from the Janes longbow days is coming back. The KA-50 might be making things tough for the mig21 to remain my favorite module now.

[doveman]

Slewing the cannon around with trackir and the shkval slaved to your helmet mounted display mowing down soldiers with HE rounds is really awesome.

 

Sounds awesome. How exactly do you do that? Guess you have to be careful not to move your head when looking down at the shkval on the second monitor, if the weapons are aimed by where you're looking on the main monitor?

[FeistyLemur]

Sounds awesome. How exactly do you do that? Guess you have to be careful not to move your head when looking down at the shkval on the second monitor, if the weapons are aimed by where you're looking on the main monitor?

 

By holding town the uncage/aim shkval button on the stick with the helmet sight it it just constantly follows it. So once you have the target area from looking out the window you just keep holding it down and glance over at the shkval monitor and start slewing it around at will and spraying the countryside with bullets. Better yet exploding bullets.

 

It's got a little jitteryness to it but overall it's a lot of fun.

 

My second monitor is to my right so I can move my eyes to it without moving my head then I can even still see enough of the main view to rotate the helicopter around through peripheral vision.

 

It's also really nice for scanning the horizon or towns you're approaching.

Edited October 17, 2015 by FeistyLemur

[doveman]

By holding town the uncage/aim shkval button on the stick with the helmet sight it it just constantly follows it. So once you have the target area from looking out the window you just keep holding it down and glance over at the shkval monitor and start slewing it around at will and spraying the countryside with bullets. Better yet exploding bullets.

 

It's got a little jitteryness to it but overall it's a lot of fun.

Thanks, sounds great. Can't wait to try that.

[Slazi]

Slewing the cannon around with trackir and the shkval slaved to your helmet mounted display mowing down soldiers with HE rounds is really awesome.

 

This is actually very very useful in tight situations. I remember doing this on a multiplayer server and killing multiple AA sites that should have killed me easily. Definitely worth practicing.

[dburne]

I did my first successful combat campaign mission tonight in 1.5 in the KA-50. The escort convoy mission. I was really struggling with it then I got my second monitor set up with the shkval and abris finally. Beautiful to have a half screen shkval.

 

Slewing the cannon around with trackir and the shkval slaved to your helmet mounted display mowing down soldiers with HE rounds is really awesome.

 

 

Congrats, sounds very exciting!

Really looking forward to getting to that point myself, I am getting closer and feel it will not be much longer now.

 

At least this time I feel I am properly learning the Ka-50 and will be much better equipped to handle it and actually know what I am doing.

[dburne]

I am getting there gang! I have been studying and learning both navigating and starting to learn weapon employment, just finished my first run at the shooting range, and managed to actually blow some stuff up finally for the first time!

 

Now I feel like I am actually getting somewhere!

[dburne]

Well I am certainly progressing, but oh my gosh I am now working on the advanced ABRIS training. All those menu options, things one can edit, change, etc... not sure how in the world I am going to get my arms wrapped around all of this.

 

I so want to get to where I can fly combat and ideally some SP campaign flying, but at this rate not sure when or even if I will ever get to that point. Perhaps I would have been better off flying the dang thing in game mode rather than sim mode LOL.

Also some of the training missions are a little bugged requiring many mouse clicks on a button or buttons to get it to continue to progress.

 

Ah perseverance, but at this rate it is going to be a while yet.

[Fishbreath]

You need almost none of the ABRIS editing stuff for flying preplanned missions. It's most useful if you're trying to plan a new route on the fly.

[dburne]

You need almost none of the ABRIS editing stuff for flying preplanned missions. It's most useful if you're trying to plan a new route on the fly.

 

Ah ok whew, good to know. Moving ahead then lol...

 

Thanks,

[kontiuka]

Also some of the training missions are a little bugged requiring many mouse clicks on a button or buttons to get it to continue to progress.

I think you'll have more luck if you just keep the button pressed until the training mission trigger activates. I think the instructor mentions that in mission 1 or something.

[dburne]

I think you'll have more luck if you just keep the button pressed until the training mission trigger activates. I think the instructor mentions that in mission 1 or something.

 

I will give that a try, thanks will let you know how it works next time I do some more training.

[Reaper6]

You need almost none of the ABRIS editing stuff for flying preplanned missions. It's most useful if you're trying to plan a new route on the fly.

 

I would have to completely disagree. ABRIS is one of the most if not the most useful piece of equipment in the KA50. People just don't bother with it, because they don't want to spend the hours upon hours that it takes to learn its features.

 

Reaper6

[Fishbreath]

I've spent the hours on hours, and the ABRIS section in my employment guide is eventually going to be the longest one, I think. It's extremely useful if I've landed at a FARP and want to deviate from my briefed mission, and for planning approaches and such, but 95% of its uses in a given, prebriefed mission are outside of the EDIT tab, and drawing lines isn't that hard to remember. Certainly in-depth knowledge of the planning functions of the ABRIS is not at all necessary to be combat ready. They're very useful for more advanced pilots, but I don't think newcomers need to worry about it all that much.