even with use of nosewheel F-86 puulls to left on takeoff

[Ramstein]

even with use of nosewheel F-86 puulls to left on takeoff. I believe a while back it had neutral steering. Then, not sure when, it seemed the plane pulls to the left and I keep having to use the nose wheel 'S'

key along with the stick and rudder to jeep it straighter down the runway and take-off.

 

My CH pedals seem set right in the settings, and nothing wrong. I don't remember needing any trim in the past it just taxied, took off and landed nicely. Now, it seems like it has a problem. It may start straight on take-off and a hundred feet down it starts going left a bit, and I have to sue the 'S' Key to help straighten it back again.. What happened?

 

I noticed there are a couple threads about RPM and hydraulics, but that should not be any problems with hydraulics, with pump at idle it should be good..... I more rpm, and yes, probably better... but still should be no issues because at take-off it has full rpm. I am trying a curve in differential braking, and may get rid of it just to eliminate it as having any affect, although I like the curve on the differential braking, but that should only be on when brakes applied.

 

Ideas? Anyone else? Thanx

[Sryan]

Heya, normally it's great if you upload a track with these kind of problems, but I have a hunch at what the problem might be.

 

The Nosewheel steering function is only powered when you hold down the steering button. What might be the case is that you center your rudder at the same time you let go of the nosewheel steering key. this causes the nosewheel to be jammed in an off-centre position. When rolling on the runway after a taxi, make sure to hold the nosewheel steering key for a few seconds with the rudders centered to allow the nosewheel to level out. You can use the F2 external view option to observe if the wheel has leveled out properly.

 

Also note that nosewheel steering during take-off is normal and in compliance with the manual; page 12 untill a speed of 50kts has been achieved to allow control surfaces to become effective.

[Ramstein]

here is the track.. it pulled would not go straight...had to constantly use stick, 'S' Key, pedals, etc... actually, after I corrected it, it then wanted to pull right,, but had to get into air during the fight with the steering...

10-16-15_f-86_PULL_To_Left.trk

[Dingo_Bob]

you've been sat with 0% power and toggled flaps, so one pf the flaps is fully down and the other is up check your hydralics,

 

bring power up to 50% / 80% and let hydro build up again to use reset flaps

 

or

 

Do complete shutdown, call in ground power, restart, kill GP once complete, while sitting idle you need throttle @ 50% - 80% to keep hydro systems online

Edited October 16, 2015 by Dingo_Bob

[Ramstein]

did a long runup, still no difference... btw, this mission is the instant action, 'take-off'. From the sim menu.

 

a while back, I never had a steering problem with the F-86. Not sure how long ago this problem started, but I have been flying the DCS F-86 for (1 year ?) I just hadn't been flying it a few short months... been flying other aircraft... then came back to the F-86 recently. Our squad rotates to different aircraft for squad practice nights.

10-17-15_f-86_PULL_To_Left_after_long_Runup.trk

Edited October 17, 2015 by Ramstein

[Ramstein]

trying again, trying to check nose wheel with long s' key press with engine up, before takeoff, al controls were neutral except throttle during runup, and a while on s key to make sure front when was straight before letting go of brakes..

10-17-15_f-86_PULL_To_Left_after_long_Runup2.trk

[Ramstein]

I should change this to pull to right, I have to pull to left when the takeoff goes to right, after attempted correction, of pulling left with s' key, it straightens for a only a short while then turns again... not sure if it makes any difference which direction it is pulling, should only go straight, except with rudder, for tiny direction corrections.

[Ramstein]

Thank you for your help! really appreciate it!

 

Maybe fixed after resetting axis control in F-86 control panel. Brakes also maybe sticking still.

 

Not long ago, after using Saitek for like 15 years, a couple sets of Saitek sticks and pedals over the years, I changed my Saitek pedals for CH pedals, I still have the Saitek X-52 pro stick.

 

I also recently went from Win 8.1 to Win10. Saitek didn't release any Win10 drivers, so we really were screwed badly until they released beta drivers for Win10. Win10 gave me problems, I went back to Win 8.1.

 

Now the F-86 seems to be the only one with steering issues.

 

Sticking brakes still an issue? I have to keep upon this myself. Maybe put a dead zone in when no brakes applied. I am not sure yet

10-17-15_f-86_maybe_fixed_after_reset axis controls.trk

Edited October 17, 2015 by Ramstein

[Art-J]

The deadzone might be worth trying. What does the input preview (Ctrl Enter) show when You're doing these takeoffs?

[Shahdoh]

Thank you for your help! really appreciate it!

 

Maybe fixed after resetting axis control in F-86 control panel. Brakes also maybe sticking still.

 

Not long ago, after using Saitek for like 15 years, a couple sets of Saitek sticks and pedals over the years, I changed my Saitek pedals for CH pedals, I still have the Saitek X-562 pro stick.

 

I also recently went from Win 8.1 to Win10. Saitek didn't release any Win10 drivers, so we really were screwed badly until they released beta drivers for Win10. Win10 gave me problems, I went back to Win 8.1.

 

Now the F-86 seems to be the only one with steering issues.

 

Sticking brakes still an issue? I have to keep upon this myself. Maybe put a dead zone in when no brakes applied. I am not sure yet

 

I use saitek peddles, but these settings should help out all the same.

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=130129

[Ramstein]

The deadzone might be worth trying. What does the input preview (Ctrl Enter) show when You're doing these takeoffs?

 

a couple days Ago I used the (Crtl-Enter) to see what the controls are doing, and the brakes were not on...) but none the less.... Anyways, I made vast improvements like I said in a post or two back with resetting the control panel in the game for the F-86.

 

:joystick:

[Art-J]

Out of curiosity, I made three test flights, using the instant take-off mission as You suggested, not touching controls after hitting "fly" button, except throttling full back and then throttling up. On the first two, the plane turned a bit to the left, but only about half of gunsight ring diameter, on the third one, it turned to the right (?!) even less. Nothing I couldn't counteract with rudder after a few seconds, not using any brakes at all.

 

Mind You, I don't have proper rudder pedals (using the ones from racing wheel) and I operate brakes only by the means of buttons, so when they're off, they're off for good. I would hazard a guess Your pedals might have caused some tiny inputs before, not picked up by CtrlEnter screen, but sufficient to produce unwanted yaw to the left.

[Ramstein]

I fly IL-2, COD, and DCS... so too many aircraft to list, but the problems seemed to only on that aircraft at that time... :joystick:

[Lion13]

check flaps both down

 

I had the same problem and found the left flap did not deploy. Made takeoffs a bear.

[golani79]

I had the same problem and found the left flap did not deploy. Made takeoffs a bear.

 

With sufficient RPM the left flap also should move - just increase your RPM and try to lower / raise them again.

[Holbeach]

Your right wheel isn't turning (rolling), Therefore your right brake is stuck on.

 

 

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[BIGNEWY]

Your right wheel isn't turning (rolling), Therefore your right brake is stuck on.

 

 

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this

 

check your control inputs