Noob gaming pc build

[126mx]

trying to build my first gaming pc....im open to thoughts ideas suggestions

just copied and pasted my build from pcpartspicker

 

 

CPU AMD FX-4350 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor

$89.89

 

Thermal Compound Arctic Silver 5 High-Density Polysynthetic Silver 3.5g Thermal Paste

$5.98

 

Motherboard MSI 970A-G46 ATX AM3+ Motherboard

$51.98

 

Memory G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory

$36.99

 

Storage Sandisk SSD PLUS 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive

$44.88

 

Video Card MSI GeForce GT 740 2GB Video Card

$61.99

 

Case Thermaltake VL80001W2Z ATX Mid Tower Case

$22.99

 

 

Power Supply Corsair CSM 450W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply

$24.99

 

Optical Drive Lite-On iHAS124-14 DVD/CD Writer

$13.98

 

Operating System Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 OEM (64-bit)

$87.75 Buy

 

Total: $441.42

[HeadHunter52]

Great prince on the RAM. I use it without issues.

I run a EVGA GTX 750Ti vid card. It pulls all its power from the bus. No card edge power requirements at all. Runs cool and quiet. I do get close to max memory usage on it, but it hasn't died.

[Drona]

Please don't get AMD, for DCS especially. If you want to play with low frames in DCS, then go ahead. Ideally, you'd want to get an i7-4790k, possibly the fastest processor out there. It's costly but its worth every penny. If you can't afford that get an i5-4690k. Failing that, get an i3, even those are faster than AMD. You could probably get a bigger SSD say 256GB. Vid card, get an nvdia 970 if possible, if not a 750ti is adequate. I have the 750ti, it's pretty good but you can't turn all the graphics details to high.

 

I was an AMD user earlier and I regretted buying AMD the day I put an Intel inside. The difference in DCS is night and day.

[cichlidfan]

Agreed. For DCS single core performance is what matters. In the case of the SSD, I think you will find that DCS, assuming you plan on buying a few modules and the Nevada map (not to mention a beta install as well), along with Windows, is going to take up a significant portion of a 128GB drive.

 

You also might want to bump the PSU wattage up just a bit (but I tend to over do that so YMMV). ;)

[slowhand]

Is $450 what u are looking to spend?you should build so you can upgrade down the line. I have to agree w/both Cic and Kunz:thumbup:do some leg work get the best that you can afford:doh:

[dburne]

Agree with going Intel processor, they are much better for flight simming/games.

 

Sounds like you are on a budget, an i5 processor would do very well for you.

[Demon_]

Forget the tiny SSD and get a Seagate 7200.14 1TB.

Edited November 7, 2015 by Demon_

[Sryan]

You gotta watch out with that OEM version of windows 7. OEM stands for original equipment manufacturer. I don't have any expierence with it myself but as far as I understand, you're not eligble for certain types of support as that is the task of the 'equipment manufacturer' and to install it you need a OPK ( OEM preinstallation kit ) whatever that may be. Better educate yourself if you're not better off with the windows 7 retail version.

 

I've never ran into framerate troubles with my old phenom II X6 1100T and HD6990 combo. and I don't do now with my FX8350 and R9 290. Everything maxed out. So don't let people talk you out of AMD. sure the intel stuff is great but also very pricey. that i7 4790k is €350.

 

Also, why exactly are you buying thermal paste? there is some pre-applied so you won't need it for the first few months.

[126mx]

thanks a lot for all the replies you guy. I read somewhere on here single core performance did not matter but Ill take your all's advice.

 

Yes, im trying to keep tower as far under $500 as possible Im only looking for medium framerates/ gameplay, if anyone out there loves trying to get a good budget build on pcpartspicker and could suggest one that would be great.

 

and as for the thermal paste Im a noob and was not aware it came pre applied lol

[126mx]

why is he getting smooth gameplay with this 6 core 3.5 ghz if single core performance is better?

 

[Sryan]

that processor is good enough for smooth DCS gameplay. However you have to take into account that he has GTX 980 graphics card. that graphics card alone costs €520+

[Aluminum Donkey]

trying to build my first gaming pc....im open to thoughts ideas suggestions

just copied and pasted my build from pcpartspicker

 

 

CPU AMD FX-4350 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor

$89.89

 

Thermal Compound Arctic Silver 5 High-Density Polysynthetic Silver 3.5g Thermal Paste

$5.98

 

Motherboard MSI 970A-G46 ATX AM3+ Motherboard

$51.98

 

Memory G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory

$36.99

 

Storage Sandisk SSD PLUS 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive

$44.88

 

Video Card MSI GeForce GT 740 2GB Video Card

$61.99

 

Case Thermaltake VL80001W2Z ATX Mid Tower Case

$22.99

 

Power Supply Corsair CSM 450W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply

$24.99

 

Optical Drive Lite-On iHAS124-14 DVD/CD Writer

$13.98

 

Total: $441.42

 

As others have said, stay away from that AMD processor. For a *great* budget build, an old Core 2 Duo or Quad will give outstanding gaming performance if you're willing and able to put together an inexpensive watercooling setup. These old chips will overclock to more than 4.0 GHz when WC'd, and give amazing framerates in DCS World and numerous other games. You can pick up a Q6600 for 20 bucks or so, my Q9650 is a bit easier to keep cool and overclocks to 4.0+ GHz pretty easily and only set me back 40 bucks. It probably would have been 20 or 30 if I'd haggled a bit, but I wanted it :) My watercooling setup cost maybe $40, but I made a lot of it myself.

 

Save money by not getting a new optical drive. Nobody uses those anymore for anything but the operating system installation--everything else is done online, and you can use cheap USB drives for moving stuff around if you want.

 

A 500W power supply is sufficient for just about any single video card rig. Anything more is expensive overkill. My ultra-cheap Bestbuy 500W PSU is years old, and happily runs my uber-clocked Core 2 Quad and GTX 760 OC'd video card, along with 2 hard drives, a 240GB SSD, and my old DVD drive, all on my ancient P5Q mobo. It's an excellent gaming rig that gives great performance on everything I do. I only use one screen, a 1920 x 1080, which is pretty much the standard for cheap-but-good.

 

To save even more dough, don't bother putting your system in a case! I have an early ATX case, but I've run desktop PCs in true "desktop" configuration--which is, leave everything lying on the desktop. It makes cooling the mobo and video card much easier!

 

With some thought and effort you can get great gaming performance on very little dough, even less than a decent newer gaming console :)

 

Peace and happy warfare :D

Ian

[Aluminum Donkey]

why is he getting smooth gameplay with this 6 core 3.5 ghz if single core performance is better?

 

 

Because he's running it at 3.5 GHz, that's why. But for DCS World, there are four cores not doing much of anything--and you still have to pay for them.

 

DCS World only uses two cores, an old Core 2 Duo is fine and very, very cheap. You can buy a couple for probably $10 each and pick the best one, then overclock it to over 4.0 GHz with a good cheap watercooling setup. Keeping the chip cool is the key to getting great performance out of a very inexpensive gaming rig.

 

Single-threaded performance is KING in gaming; DCS World is no exception, and the only way to do that is running the highest possible core clock speeds. Adding more cores just burns through money that you could spend on a decent watercooling setup, or even a high-end air-cooled heatsink, both of which *will* actually improve performance in DCS World by allowing higher core clock rates. Processors with more cores just cost more money, that's all, and the extra ones are just along for the ride.

 

I'm using an old quad-core just because it was cheap. A Duo will be *really* cheap, and decent ones can be run very fast. There are mobo's out there that use DDR3 with the LGA775 socket, which is the CPU socket for Core 2 consumer desktop processors. My old rig still uses DDR2, and it's never been a performance bottleneck for me. DDR2 is just getting hard to find, and DDR3 is cheaper.

 

Just stay with an Intel processor and don't get suckered into the numerous-cores hype, it won't make any difference in DCS and will just drain your wallet. That's money you could put into a decent video card, like a GTX 760 which costs less than $200 used, and allows you to fly DCS with all of the graphics goodies turned up all the way on a single 1080 screen with framerates typically around 40 FPS or more, which is excellent for flight simming.

 

I have a GTX 760 2GB card myself, which is a) cheap, and b) lets me fly huge mega-furballs with 40 aircraft in the air all shooting at each other and I still get awesome smooth framerates :)

 

Peace and happy warfare :D

Ian

[Bodo]

On the topic of OEM or retail. They are identical, it's just more of a legal issue.

 

You can install both copies on one PC at a time. However the OEM version should be tied to one PC for the duration of its lifetime and can't then be used on another. I believe a retail version can be used on up to 5 different machines, as long as only one at a time. Upgrades or new builds etc.

 

Having said that I had an OEM copy of windows and my motherboard blew within a short amount of time and MS were fine with activating it. Might have had to phone and state it is only used on one machine, I think.

[OverStratos]

I´m just going to reaffirm the others in this thread. Stay away from AMD CPUs for now. Intel Haswell Pentium or lesser i3 will bring you a noticeable increase in performance over any FX CPU, also the AM3 platform is really outdated. (i.e. no PCI-e 3.0) In DCS, single thread is king now.