Arden Posted November 25, 2015 Posted November 25, 2015 As per the title goes. Do you fine gentlemen have tips for new Mirage pilots. (such as the "don't roll and pull at the same time", because it'll kill your energy). Any kind of tip is good, be it piloting, start-up procedure, instrumentation, or other.
XeNoise Posted November 25, 2015 Posted November 25, 2015 Only thing what comes to my mind is: If you are in dogfight, flying low don't fly as it would be an f-15 because you'll be down faster than you would be able to notice.
PiedDroit Posted November 25, 2015 Posted November 25, 2015 If you are in dogfight, flying low don't fly as it would be an f-15 because you'll be down faster than you would be able to notice. What does that mean exactly?
Rain Posted November 25, 2015 Posted November 25, 2015 Only thing what comes to my mind is: If you are in dogfight, flying low don't fly as it would be an f-15 because you'll be down faster than you would be able to notice. I don't undestand what do you mean.
Flappie Posted November 25, 2015 Posted November 25, 2015 I think this was supposed to mean something like "M-2000C < F-15". :huh: ---
Cletust8 Posted November 25, 2015 Posted November 25, 2015 M-2000c will eat an amraam long before a dogfight starts
PiedDroit Posted November 25, 2015 Posted November 25, 2015 I think this was supposed to mean something like "M-2000C < F-15". :huh: I think it was more like "don't maneuver as if it was an f-15", but without any details this can't be considered a tip :(
spidergeo Posted November 25, 2015 Posted November 25, 2015 I think the M2000C should be flown like Hadwell flies his Mig 21.
Arden Posted November 25, 2015 Author Posted November 25, 2015 Well, as mentioned in the M2000 discussion thread in the mirage section. It's mentioned to not try and out-turn an F-15 or MiG-29, but instead use the superior roll rate to get into sciccors for instance.
PiedDroit Posted November 25, 2015 Posted November 25, 2015 It's a bit early to ask for tips - without the aircraft. No one has experience with it so it's mostly speculation. Before it is released I guess the best place to ask is in the Mirage-2000 discussion thread.
il_corleone Posted November 25, 2015 Posted November 25, 2015 I expect this aircraft to be almost in par (same figthing style) with the russian planes on the MP enviorement. Im used to fly 21 in Mp , and having a good radar will help the kill ratio a lot, this WILL NOT BE a fresh food for the F15, thats for sure
TomCatMucDe Posted November 25, 2015 Posted November 25, 2015 Only thing what comes to my mind is: If you are in dogfight, flying low don't fly as it would be an f-15 because you'll be down faster than you would be able to notice. do you feel proud when you fly a plane that is newer and superior than smaller and older ones designed for other purposes? the F15C systems arent even simulated, it s a game for kids. just stop bragging around when you fly a toy against a real sim. have a nice evening 2
domini99 Posted November 25, 2015 Posted November 25, 2015 do you feel proud when you fly a plane that is newer and superior than smaller and older ones designed for other purposes? the F15C systems arent even simulated, it s a game for kids. just stop bragging around when you fly a toy against a real sim. have a nice evening Woa someone seems a bit mad. What's gonna a happen when the Typhoon is released, which is a full simulation and not just "a toy" and it goes up against a Mirage? Yelling at the Typhoon pilot won't stop him from firing before you can. I'm sorry, but on paper the Typhoon is superior. After all it's up to the pilot and his skills to prove he is actually superior. So just find a tactic that works, people have also done this with Mig-21's. Don't even mention the F-14. It'll take a dump on you before you even get a glance of it. So don't go head-on with an F14.
Azrayen Posted November 25, 2015 Posted November 25, 2015 What's gonna a happen when the Typhoon is released, which is a full simulation Yeah, right. Cause all needed data are public.
il_corleone Posted November 25, 2015 Posted November 25, 2015 Well, I`m also tired of those Aimmnoob120 , and looks like is what most people fly or shoot (Is there any diference in the style of play of some pilots?), dont know why, the question is, would they fly a fully simulated F15? sorry for Offtopic
Moos_tachu Posted November 25, 2015 Posted November 25, 2015 Don't even mention the F-14. It'll take a dump on you before you even get a glance of it. So don't go head-on with an F14. Talking about game... dodging the Tomcat's missiles, which were designed to intercept non-maneuvering bombers, a kid in a Mirage 2000 should be able to handle that. 1 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Mud, wind and fire.
il_corleone Posted November 25, 2015 Posted November 25, 2015 Well, about the main topic, I am already "sort of" expecting this thing to be released and fly, because in my opinion is more in characteristics, not equal but near, the fighters that populate the MP skies, so first 4th Gen Aircraft with AA capabilities in fully DCS Simulated mode, I cant wait! and also, it will be very usefull in Coop mission with the A10 with Gbus that will need to be lased!
Beagle One Posted November 25, 2015 Posted November 25, 2015 (edited) I can remember pretty well that we had early 80's missions back then in FC2 and the generaö gameflow was better. Now that we have a plethora of 50's-70's aircraft that scenario is even better suited now. F-15 would be retricted to AIM-7 and AIM-9 and no R-77 for the MiG and all "balance" problems be gone. And suddently even the old MiG-21 is back into business as an interceptor. Sabres and MiG-15 were oftten still in service as ground attack Planes back in the 70's in some minor air forces. Edited November 25, 2015 by Beagle One
TomCatMucDe Posted November 25, 2015 Posted November 25, 2015 Woa someone seems a bit mad. What's gonna a happen when the Typhoon is released, which is a full simulation and not just "a toy" and it goes up against a Mirage? Yelling at the Typhoon pilot won't stop him from firing before you can. I'm sorry, but on paper the Typhoon is superior. After all it's up to the pilot and his skills to prove he is actually superior. So just find a tactic that works, people have also done this with Mig-21's. Don't even mention the F-14. It'll take a dump on you before you even get a glance of it. So don't go head-on with an F14. I'm not angry but when I shoot a p51 with my MiG21 I won't come here showing off. It's ridiculous and unbalanced. Show your skills with similar hardware. Again I'm not talking about multiplayer, I am talking about comments minimizing an airplane cause you can shoot it with a toy that doesn't match real life. Your workload is close to 0 with FC3 models compared to real sims
Pikey Posted November 25, 2015 Posted November 25, 2015 Not sure what topic this ended up but its not the one that was started. ___________________________________________________________________________ SIMPLE SCENERY SAVING * SIMPLE GROUP SAVING * SIMPLE STATIC SAVING *
theGozr Posted November 26, 2015 Posted November 26, 2015 Fly it like you stole it.. ;) 1 Fly it like you stole it..
MiG21bisFishbedL Posted November 26, 2015 Posted November 26, 2015 Shoot the Cyberdemon until it dies. Reformers hate him! This one weird trick found by a bush pilot will make gunfighter obsessed old farts angry at your multi-role carrier deck line up!
VTJS17_Fire Posted November 26, 2015 Posted November 26, 2015 the question is, would they fly a fully simulated F15? sorry for Offtopic Of course. This would add superior full simulated avionics to the good amount of weapons - which are also superior - and the fantastic PFM. We wish that for years. Public is public. If you had a flight of Eagles on a public using real tactics you had nothing to counter in DCS. But most of the F-15 pilots fly alone, use wrong tactics (or "playstyle") and don't know their weapons. The lack of a human GCI/ AWACS controller and the design of most of the missions lead to the generic playstyle. Hardware: Intel i5 4670K | Zalman NPS9900MAX | GeIL 16GB @1333MHz | Asrock Z97 Pro4 | Sapphire Radeon R9 380X Nitro | Samsung SSDs 840 series 120GB & 250 GB | Samsung HD204UI 2TB | be quiet! Pure Power 530W | Aerocool RS-9 Devil Red | Samsung SyncMaster SA350 24" + ASUS VE198S 19" | Saitek X52 | TrackIR 5 | Thrustmaster MFD Cougar | Speedlink Darksky LED | Razor Diamondback | Razor X-Mat Control | SoundBlaster Tactic 3D Rage ### Software: Windows 10 Pro 64Bit [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Vectury Posted November 26, 2015 Posted November 26, 2015 Not sure what topic this ended up but its not the one that was started. Hear! Hear! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] -- i7 4790K -- Club 3D R9 290X Royal Ace SOC -- Asus Maximus VII Ranger -- G.Skill Trident X 16GB DDR3-2400 CL10 -- Gelid Tranquillo rev.2 -- Corsair RM850 -- Corsair 760T White -- Windows 10
Arden Posted November 26, 2015 Author Posted November 26, 2015 Quite, can we please get back on topic?
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