SkateZilla Posted June 7, 2016 Posted June 7, 2016 Yeah but we've been over this, Super Hornet and Hornet don't share part commonality, so that's out. Canada doesn't need CATOBAR capability, and the engine reliability argument at this point is facetious given the reliability of new engines. Block 60 matches the AESA radar, already has CFTs as a tested and battle proven utility, unlike the the Super Hornet's (which have only ever flown on the Prototype demonstrator). Really Canada would be paying extra cost for an aircraft with extra capability they literally cannot use (CATOBAR). Sure, it's nice to say "F the Man" by not buying Lockheed at this point, but the Super Hornet's a pretty poor choice if you have to buy an American 4th gen fighter. Training Costs Buddy, F-18 Legacy -> F-18 Super Hornet is a quick and extremely easy transition, I've heard this stated by DOZENs of Active Duty Pilots here at NAS Oceana. Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs
GGTharos Posted June 7, 2016 Posted June 7, 2016 It's really irrelevant, Skate. You don't pick the aircraft based on how easy the transition is unless it also brings other benefits. The SH doesn't really bring any - and spares cost will be going up soon as well. Training Costs Buddy, F-18 Legacy -> F-18 Super Hornet is a quick and extremely easy transition, I've heard this stated by DOZENs of Active Duty Pilots here at NAS Oceana. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
SkateZilla Posted June 7, 2016 Posted June 7, 2016 I tried, lol.... Maybe Canada wants to hitch a ride on our Carriers.... Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs
ED Team NineLine Posted June 7, 2016 ED Team Posted June 7, 2016 Admit it, F-16s in RCAF livery would be pretty sexy. I would be ok with that, but I like the Super Hornet as well, so either way :) Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug**
Darkbrotherhood7 Posted June 7, 2016 Posted June 7, 2016 What about the Gripen E/F? It is very capable, and cheaper! :D Maybe good results in the maple flag 2016 exercise can take Rafale to be chosen one... Mission: "To intercept and destroy aircraft and airborne missiles in all weather conditions in order to establish and maintain air superiority in a designated area. To deliver air-to-ground ordnance on time in any weather condition. And to provide tactical reconaissance imagery" - F-14 Tomcat Roll Call [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
GGTharos Posted June 7, 2016 Posted June 7, 2016 How about no? :D [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
Darkbrotherhood7 Posted June 7, 2016 Posted June 7, 2016 How about no? :D :( Mission: "To intercept and destroy aircraft and airborne missiles in all weather conditions in order to establish and maintain air superiority in a designated area. To deliver air-to-ground ordnance on time in any weather condition. And to provide tactical reconaissance imagery" - F-14 Tomcat Roll Call [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Sweep Posted June 7, 2016 Posted June 7, 2016 Ghost, stop hating the Gripen, you Eagle/Raptor/Lightning fanboy. :megalol: Need to find that picture of a CF-3939393939 that I found (or made....i forget...). Lord of Salt
GGTharos Posted June 7, 2016 Posted June 7, 2016 I don't need to hate it. I know that it's just flat out not in danger of being on the list :D [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
Darkbrotherhood7 Posted June 7, 2016 Posted June 7, 2016 Give a chance to the Gripen haha For a bit more, you can have this awesome cockpit: Mission: "To intercept and destroy aircraft and airborne missiles in all weather conditions in order to establish and maintain air superiority in a designated area. To deliver air-to-ground ordnance on time in any weather condition. And to provide tactical reconaissance imagery" - F-14 Tomcat Roll Call [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
GGTharos Posted June 7, 2016 Posted June 7, 2016 For what purpose? Nothing on the list comes from anywhere but Canada or the US. The Gripen isn't anywhere near the short-list for Canada, and likely never will be. Give a chance to the Gripen haha [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
RAZBAM_ELMO Posted June 7, 2016 Author Posted June 7, 2016 The parts commonality between the super bug and the legacy is close to 60% so equipment we already own can still be used and pilot training and crew conversions can also save money in the long term. I believe around end of July the government will begin the competition and selection process. Sent from my SM-G900W8 using Tapatalk Know and use all the capabilities in your airplane. If you don't, sooner or later, some guy who does use them all will kick your ass. — Dave 'Preacher' Pace, USN.
agentdarnell Posted June 7, 2016 Posted June 7, 2016 You are mostly French anyhow so why not the Rafale lol. I jest. My Grandmother was First Nation Iroquois from Canada close to Maine. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Pilotasso Posted June 7, 2016 Posted June 7, 2016 There are no alternatives really. Some mentioned the superhornet but that will reach the end of the line rather quickly compared to the F-35. Either that or the new 6th gen fighter the navy is lobbying for and that wont come to fruition within the next 20 years. .
Darkbrotherhood7 Posted June 7, 2016 Posted June 7, 2016 For what purpose? Nothing on the list comes from anywhere but Canada or the US. The Gripen isn't anywhere near the short-list for Canada, and likely never will be. Really? I thought that the Gripen was in the short-list. Just like the Rafale, Typhoon, SH and F-35. Mission: "To intercept and destroy aircraft and airborne missiles in all weather conditions in order to establish and maintain air superiority in a designated area. To deliver air-to-ground ordnance on time in any weather condition. And to provide tactical reconaissance imagery" - F-14 Tomcat Roll Call [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
RAZBAM_ELMO Posted June 7, 2016 Author Posted June 7, 2016 From what sources have hinted. The competitors are believed to be Typhoon Gripen Lightning 2 Rafael F18 ASH Also sources in the government have not negated an option for Indian built 27mki due to the minister of defences ties to that country. Sent from my SM-G900W8 using Tapatalk Know and use all the capabilities in your airplane. If you don't, sooner or later, some guy who does use them all will kick your ass. — Dave 'Preacher' Pace, USN.
GGTharos Posted June 7, 2016 Posted June 7, 2016 If it's not from North America, Canada isn't buying it. It doesn't matter what 'survey says' :) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
dartuil Posted June 7, 2016 Posted June 7, 2016 Shame canada didnt buy rafale.... i7 2600k -- Noctua NH-D14--Asrock Z75 Pro3--ASUS GTX970 Strix --16Go Ripjaws X 1333--Thermaltake Smart M650--CoolerMaster Silencio 652S--AOC E2752VQ-- Sandisk Extreme II 480GB--Saitek X-52 Pro --SAITEK PZ35 Pedals
Darkbrotherhood7 Posted June 7, 2016 Posted June 7, 2016 (edited) Shame canada didnt buy rafale.... The Rafale is an amazing fighter jet. I wish Brazil had chosen the Rafale, It is my favorite 4th gen fighter jet. And it would be perfect to Canada, but as GG said, only americans fighters jets. :) Edited June 7, 2016 by Darkbrotherhood7 Mission: "To intercept and destroy aircraft and airborne missiles in all weather conditions in order to establish and maintain air superiority in a designated area. To deliver air-to-ground ordnance on time in any weather condition. And to provide tactical reconaissance imagery" - F-14 Tomcat Roll Call [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Darkbrotherhood7 Posted June 7, 2016 Posted June 7, 2016 :megalol::megalol::megalol::megalol: Mission: "To intercept and destroy aircraft and airborne missiles in all weather conditions in order to establish and maintain air superiority in a designated area. To deliver air-to-ground ordnance on time in any weather condition. And to provide tactical reconaissance imagery" - F-14 Tomcat Roll Call [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
RAZBAM_ELMO Posted June 7, 2016 Author Posted June 7, 2016 Man I wish. We have so much airspace we really need an air superiority fighter that can cover over the Arctic and other areas. The f35 is a horrible choice. If only we could get some mud hens god that would be amazing. Unfortunately the liberals won't put the money forward to develop a super arrow. Sent from my SM-G900W8 using Tapatalk Know and use all the capabilities in your airplane. If you don't, sooner or later, some guy who does use them all will kick your ass. — Dave 'Preacher' Pace, USN.
RAZBAM_ELMO Posted June 7, 2016 Author Posted June 7, 2016 :megalol::megalol::megalol::megalol: Sent from my SM-G900W8 using Tapatalk Know and use all the capabilities in your airplane. If you don't, sooner or later, some guy who does use them all will kick your ass. — Dave 'Preacher' Pace, USN.
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