DCS : F4U-1 Corsair

[Silver_Dragon]

38 minutes ago, ESA_maligno said:

¿Que es más falso que un duro de madera?, ¿qué haya gente que prefiera el módulo a los complementos?. ED siempre ha dado prioridad a la creación de módulos el reste va detrás y eso es un hecho por mucha rasgadura de vestidura y adalid de causas EDicticas…

Lo vuelvo a repetir; otra cosa sería vender un mapa con dos atolones y miles de millas marinas de la Segunda Guerra mundial donde no tengas ni una unidad naval japonesa….; ahí o desarrollas complementos (transportes, destructores, submarinos, hidroaviones, acorazados, portaviones, portaviones ligeros, etc)

Y si sacas esos complementos los debes sacar adecuadamente. 
Puedes escudarte en comparaciones, requisitos, etc…; pero la realidad es la que es y ante los hechos…; las palabras (escritas en este caso) no son sino un canto al sofismo 

Dicho esto; dejad tranquilos a los que ya están convencidos de que la calidad está en el módulo y no en los complementos y mucho menos escudarse en esos giros para realizar velados ataques a sus ideas

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En la lengua de la pérfida…

 

What is more false than a hardwood? Are there people who prefer the module to accessories? ED has always given priority to the creation of modules the rest goes behind and that is a fact for a lot of tearing of clothing and adalid of EDictic causes...

I repeat it again; another thing would be to sell a map with two atolls and thousands of nautical miles of the Second World War where you do not have a single Japanese naval unit....; there or you develop accessories (transports, destroyers, submarines, seaplanes, battleships, aircraft carriers, light aircraft carriers, etc.)

And if you take out those accessories, you must take them out properly.

You can hide in comparisons, requirements, etc...; but reality is what it is and before the facts; the words (written in this case) are but a song to sophicism

That said; leave alone those who are already convinced that the quality is in the module and not in the accessories and much less hide in those turns to make veiled attacks on their ideas

Ataques a sus ideas...

Te recuerdo que ED tiene su equipo de creación de assets (los que han metido los bombarderos y demas asistencia a comienzos de este año) y cierto M1A2, T-155 Firtina, MRAPs y otros por venir (que hay que seguir actualizando lo viejo de lomac y añadir mas material)......, ademas del equipo especializado de la WW2 ¿O donde crees que salió el CV-6 Enterprise, el Mogami y el AM6 Zero visto en "2024 and Beyond"? (confirmado por ED), ahi se está trabajando (ya confirmaron que vienen mas buques Useños y Japoneses), y si, es gente a parte de los equipos 3D que te crea el material externo e interno de los modulos.

Te recuerdo que el mapa de Marianas, tanto Moderno, como el actual de WW2 son gratuitos, no vas a tener que pagar absolutamente nada por el (En si, ED está trabajando en 4 mapas mas) y que las unidades de la WW2 de ED las añadirá al Pack de asistencia de la WW2 sin coste (No, no hay un "Pack de asistencias del Pacifico WW2"). Magnitude 3 tiene las suyas, de las que ha hablado durante este tiempo, que vendrán con el F4U Corsair, y por ahora, no sabemos la lista completa de lo que vendrá, que ya ha confirmado M3, que hay muchas mas en desarrollo, aparte de las unidades IA mostradas en "2024 and Beyond", Y en si, la misma M3 ha dejado caer que podría venir mas "material" japones en plan "modulo" si hay suerte, asi que aqui, eso de "esto se quedará corto" no sirve. Y No, no tengo que convencer a nadie, a las pruebas me remito... 

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Attacks on their ideas...

I remind you that ED has a asset creation team (the ones that have put in the bombers and other assistance at the beginning of this year) and certain M1A2, T-155 Firtina, MRAPs and others to come (that we have to continue updating the old lomac and add more material)......., in addition to the specialized equipment of WW2 Or where do you think the CV-6 Enterprise, the Mogami and the AM6 Zero seen in "2024 and Beyond" came from? (confirmed by ED), work is being done there (they have already confirmed that more US and Japanese AI ships are coming), and yes, it is people apart from the 3D teams that create the external and internal material of the modules.

I remind you that the Marianas map, both Modern and the current WW2 map are free. You will not have to pay absolutely anything for it (ED Map teams working on other 4 maps...) and that the ED WW2 units will be added to the WW2 Assistance Pack at no cost. (No, there is no "WW2 Pacific Assistance Pack"). Magnitude 3 has its own, which it has talked about during this time, which will come with the F4U Corsair, and for now, we do not know the complete list of what will come, which M3 has already confirmed, that there are many more in development, apart of the AI units shown in "2024 and Beyond", And in fact, the same M3 has dropped that more Japanese "material" could come in a "module" plan if there is luck, so here, that of "this will fall short " It does not work. And no, I don't have to convince anyone, I refer to the evidence...

Edited May 13, 2024 by Silver_Dragon

[Hammer1-1]

34 minutes ago, Hunter Joker said:

It's seems that we have a lot of people whose menstrual cycle coincides...



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jesus this kid really hurts my head sometimes. its like fighting with a 12 yr old girl know-it-all.

Edited May 13, 2024 by Hammer1-1

[ESA_maligno]

hace 12 minutos, Silver_Dragon dijo:

Ataques a sus ideas...

Te recuerdo que ED tiene su equipo de creación de assets (los que han metido los bombarderos y demas asistencia a comienzos de este año) y cierto M1A2, T-155 Firtina, MRAPs y otros por venir (que hay que seguir actualizando lo viejo de lomac y añadir mas material)......, ademas del equipo especializado de la WW2 ¿O donde crees que salió el CV-6 Enterprise, el Mogami y el AM6 Zero visto en "2024 and Beyond"? (confirmado por ED), ahi se está trabajando (ya confirmaron que vienen mas buques Useños y Japoneses), y si, es gente a parte de los equipos 3D que te crea el material externo e interno de los modulos.

Te recuerdo que el mapa de Marianas, tanto Moderno, como el actual de WW2 son gratuitos, no vas a tener que pagar absolutamente nada por el (En si, ED está trabajando en 4 mapas mas) y que las unidades de la WW2 de ED las añadirá al Pack de asistencia de la WW2 sin coste (No, no hay un "Pack de asistencias del Pacifico WW2"). Magnitude 3 tiene las suyas, de las que ha hablado durante este tiempo, que vendrán con el F4U Corsair, y por ahora, no sabemos la lista completa de lo que vendrá, que ya ha confirmado M3, que hay muchas mas en desarrollo, aparte de las unidades IA mostradas en "2024 and Beyond", Y en si, la misma M3 ha dejado caer que podría venir mas "material" japones en plan "modulo" si hay suerte, asi que aqui, eso de "esto se quedará corto" no sirve. Y No, no tengo que convencer a nadie, a las pruebas me remito... 

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Attacks on their ideas...

I remind you that ED has a asset creation team (the ones that have put in the bombers and other assistance at the beginning of this year) and certain M1A2, T-155 Firtina, MRAPs and others to come (that we have to continue updating the old lomac and add more material)......., in addition to the specialized equipment of WW2 Or where do you think the CV-6 Enterprise, the Mogami and the AM6 Zero seen in "2024 and Beyond" came from? (confirmed by ED), work is being done there (they have already confirmed that more US and Japanese AI ships are coming), and yes, it is people apart from the 3D teams that create the external and internal material of the modules.

I remind you that the Marianas map, both Modern and the current WW2 map are free. You will not have to pay absolutely anything for it (ED Map teams working on other 4 maps...) and that the ED WW2 units will be added to the WW2 Assistance Pack at no cost. (No, there is no "WW2 Pacific Assistance Pack"). Magnitude 3 has its own, which it has talked about during this time, which will come with the F4U Corsair, and for now, we do not know the complete list of what will come, which M3 has already confirmed, that there are many more in development, apart of the AI units shown in "2024 and Beyond", And in fact, the same M3 has dropped that more Japanese "material" could come in a "module" plan if there is luck, so here, that of "this will fall short " It does not work. And no, I don't have to convince anyone, I refer to the evidence...

 

Te vuelvo a repetir por tercera vez, ¿y qué tiene que ver eso con querer tener el módulo del Corsair tal cual?

No hace falta que me describas todo lo que hace o deja de hacer ED,  ¿qué hay de malo en tener un módulo sin añadidos?. Cuando salió el Mustang se compró por su calidad que es el fuerte de ED; pues lo mismo con el Corsair; luego vendrá el resto…; o no…; pero crucificar a la gente por expresar esa idea es de una vileza superlativa. 
 O puede que es que todavía no sepas de qué están tratando esta conversación…..

y me voy a dormir que en Canarias es una hora menos pero en la Península ya es martes

 

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I'll tell you again for the third time, and what does that have to do with wanting to have the Corsair module as it is?

You don't need to describe everything that ED does or doesn't do, what's wrong with having a module without additions? When the Mustang came out it was bought for its quality that is the strong of ED; well the same with the Corsair; then the rest will come...; or not...; but to crucify people for expressing that idea is of a superlative vileness.

And I'm going to sleep because in the Canary Islands it's an hour less but in the Peninsula it's already Tuesday

Edited May 13, 2024 by ESA_maligno

[Silver_Dragon]

32 minutes ago, ESA_maligno said:

Te vuelvo a repetir por tercera vez, ¿y qué tiene que ver eso con querer tener el módulo del Corsair tal cual?

No hace falta que me describas todo lo que hace o deja de hacer ED,  ¿qué hay de malo en tener un módulo sin añadidos?. Cuando salió el Mustang se compró por su calidad que es el fuerte de ED; pues lo mismo con el Corsair; luego vendrá el resto…; o no…; pero crucificar a la gente por expresar esa idea es de una vileza superlativa. 
 

y me voy a dormir que en Canarias es una hora menos pero en la Península ya es martes

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I'll tell you again for the third time, and what does that have to do with wanting to have the Corsair module as it is?

You don't need to describe everything that ED does or doesn't do, what's wrong with having a module without additions? When the Mustang came out it was bought for its quality that is the strong of ED; well the same with the Corsair; then the rest will come...; or not...; but to crucify people for expressing that idea is of a superlative vileness.

And I'm going to sleep because in the Canary Islands it's an hour less but in the Peninsula it's already Tuesday

Que Magnitude 3, haya decidido construir "assets" para el F-4U, que desde que empezaron a desarrollar el modulo (Leatherneck), ya se hablaba del portaviones Essex por -Rudel- (y un mapa de Iwo Jima que nunca llegó a confirmarse), es simplemente una decisión de ellos como empresa (para eso son 3rd parties), y no, no tiene que ver nada ED. Pasa lo mismo con Heatblur, que te ha hecho el Forrestal y algunas cosas mas, ademas de lo que viene, pero volvemos a lo mismo, son sus decisiones. 

ED en los tiempos del P-51D no tenía ese equipo de asistencias de WW2, y ni se lo planteaba (El P-51D fue un concepto de hacer un aparato de pistón por Yo-Yo), hasta que llegó el "drama" de RRG Stuidios y ED recogío los restos, incluyendo a ese equipo de asistencias de la WW2. Y si, la otra 3rd party que hace modulos, Octopus-G no te hace asistencias, aunque la comunidad está loca por que se haga equipamiento del frente del este, y porque son "dos" tipos haciendo sus modulos y porque por ahora no se lo han planteado (tal vez algún día nos dan la sorpresa).

Y ya que estamos, pongo la pregunta. F4U Corsair "pelado" (sin asistencias para despues del lanzamiento) ¿Si o No?".

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That Magnitude 3 has decided to build "assets" for the F-4U, which since they began the module developing (Leatherneck) it was already talking about the Essex aircraft carrier by -Rudel- (and a Iwo Jima map that was never confirmed), is simply a decision made by them as a company (that's what they are 3rd parties for), and No, it has nothing to do with ED. The same thing happens with Heatblur, who has done the Forrestal to you and some other things, in addition to what is coming, but we return to the same thing, they are their decisions.

ED at the time of the P-51D did not have that WW2 assets pack, and did not even consider it (The P-51D was a proff of concept to making a piston aircraft on DCS World by Yo-Yo), until the reach the "drama" of RRG Stuidios and ED collected the remains, including that WW2 assets team. And yes, the other 3rd party that makes modules, Octopus-G, does not making assets, although the community is crazy about making equipment from the Eastern Front, and because there are "two" guys making their modules and because they has other plans, and because for now they have not considered it (maybe one day they will surprise us).

And since we are here, I ask the question. F4U Corsair "bare" (without assets to after launch) Yes or No?"

Edited May 13, 2024 by Silver_Dragon

[Hammer1-1]

at this point they might as well make the entirety of the pacific fleet, the island hopping campaigns, all the other aircraft that the F4U went up against, all the countries and the assets flew with and against...you know, like Battle of Stalingrad kinda spinoff and might as well call it a new simulator...you can wait another 8+ years.

theres this thing called "biting off more than you can chew". one of the unbreakable Murphy's Laws of Combat is "if you take more than your fair share of objectives, then you will have more than your fair share of objectives to take." people want to keep complaining about why its taking so long, its because of this...and really, whos fault is that?

[Lionel Mandrake]

4 hours ago, Hunter Joker said:

It's seems that we have a lot of people whose menstrual cycle coincides...



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Just the inevitable Hammer 1-1 freak out because people disagree with him.

 

A simple update from the Devs would put most of this to bed but it's obviously very hard to write a forum post.

[Hammer1-1]

Yeah. IM the one freaking out. Whos the one crying about not having any updates again? Hey, M3...stop the presses, this guy needs an update! Nothing gets done until this guy gets his update, its written in stone by God upon the mountaintop when nobody was around looking. He deserves nothing less!

Quiet down LM; men are talking.

 

Edited May 14, 2024 by Hammer1-1

[BIGNEWY]

9 hours ago, Hayrake YE-ZB said:

Looks like the recent solar storm stirred up the Corsair drama again!

people looking for drama will always find it. 

Folks please get back on topic, the back and forth here isnt needed. When Mag3 are ready to share news they will. 

thank you 

[ESA_maligno]

hace 49 minutos, BIGNEWY dijo:

people looking for drama will always find it. 

Folks please get back on topic, the back and forth here isnt needed. When Mag3 are ready to share news they will. 

thank you 

Dese cuenta Vd. que cualquier suceso infortunado de la vida que sea capaz de conmover vivamente a alguien; puede tal vez, incitar a una exclamación vivaz ante un foro adecuado; sea benevolente en su inquisición y un azote para aquellos que con su insaciable voracidaz atacan tales sentimientos....

 

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En inglés para aquellos que no disfrutan del placer del castellano:

 

Realize that any unfortunate event in life that is capable of deeply moving someone; may, perhaps, incite a lively exclamation before an appropriate forum; be benevolent in your inquisition and a scourge for those who attack such feelings with their insatiable voracity....

[ESA_maligno]

hace 10 horas, Silver_Dragon dijo:

Que Magnitude 3, haya decidido construir "assets" para el F-4U, que desde que empezaron a desarrollar el modulo (Leatherneck), ya se hablaba del portaviones Essex por -Rudel- (y un mapa de Iwo Jima que nunca llegó a confirmarse), es simplemente una decisión de ellos como empresa (para eso son 3rd parties), y no, no tiene que ver nada ED. Pasa lo mismo con Heatblur, que te ha hecho el Forrestal y algunas cosas mas, ademas de lo que viene, pero volvemos a lo mismo, son sus decisiones. 

ED en los tiempos del P-51D no tenía ese equipo de asistencias de WW2, y ni se lo planteaba (El P-51D fue un concepto de hacer un aparato de pistón por Yo-Yo), hasta que llegó el "drama" de RRG Stuidios y ED recogío los restos, incluyendo a ese equipo de asistencias de la WW2. Y si, la otra 3rd party que hace modulos, Octopus-G no te hace asistencias, aunque la comunidad está loca por que se haga equipamiento del frente del este, y porque son "dos" tipos haciendo sus modulos y porque por ahora no se lo han planteado (tal vez algún día nos dan la sorpresa).

Y ya que estamos, pongo la pregunta. F4U Corsair "pelado" (sin asistencias para despues del lanzamiento) ¿Si o No?".

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That Magnitude 3 has decided to build "assets" for the F-4U, which since they began the module developing (Leatherneck) it was already talking about the Essex aircraft carrier by -Rudel- (and a Iwo Jima map that was never confirmed), is simply a decision made by them as a company (that's what they are 3rd parties for), and No, it has nothing to do with ED. The same thing happens with Heatblur, who has done the Forrestal to you and some other things, in addition to what is coming, but we return to the same thing, they are their decisions.

ED at the time of the P-51D did not have that WW2 assets pack, and did not even consider it (The P-51D was a proff of concept to making a piston aircraft on DCS World by Yo-Yo), until the reach the "drama" of RRG Stuidios and ED collected the remains, including that WW2 assets team. And yes, the other 3rd party that makes modules, Octopus-G, does not making assets, although the community is crazy about making equipment from the Eastern Front, and because there are "two" guys making their modules and because they has other plans, and because for now they have not considered it (maybe one day they will surprise us).

And since we are here, I ask the question. F4U Corsair "bare" (without assets to after launch) Yes or No?"

 

Me alegra que retomemos la cuestión fundamental, solo espero, que los "elementos" agitadores y misóginos (que por cierto no se ha hecho alusión todavía a tal uso descalificativo de un atributo biológico femenino por parte de los dotados de labor policial en el foro, más allá de sumarse a la gracia) no entren cual paquidermo desbocado (en su tercera acepción de la lengua castellana).

 

Pues los que sean muy fanáticos del F4U lo querrán tener lo antes posible. En mi caso, al igual que pasó con el Mustang, si está bien simulado no necesito inicialmente nada más, de hecho para mi es un gusto trabajar en el avión sin ni siquiera volarlo, estuadiar los manuales, llevarlos o adaptarlos al castellano, crear el curso de adaptación, el de conversión viniendo de otros "molinetes", crear la academia CQTU, etc...., luego para mi lo principal es tener el Corsair, todo lo demás es accesorio.

Dicho ésto, es mi opinión particular, que espero sea respetable. Lo que por desgracia unos post más atrás, expuesto por otros participantes de este foro se vió vilipendiado por execrables e indecentes comentarios.

 

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En inglés para otros usuarios que no entiendan el español (editado).

I am glad that we return to the fundamental issue, I only hope, that the agitating and misogynistic "elements" (which by the way no reference has yet been made to such disqualifying use of a female biological attribute by those endowed with police work in the forum, beyond joining the grace) do not enter like a runaway pachyderm (in its third meaning of the Spanish language).

Well, those who are big fans of F4U will want to have it as soon as possible. In my case, as happened with the Mustang, if it is well simulated I do not initially need anything else, in fact for me it is a pleasure to work on the plane without even flying it, study the manuals, take them or adapt them to Spanish, create the adaptation course, the conversion course coming from other "molinetes", creating the CQTU academy, etc..., then for me the main thing is to have the Corsair, everything else is accessory.

That said, it is my personal opinion, which I hope is respectable. What was unfortunately exposed a few posts ago by other participants in this forum was vilified by execrable and indecent comments.

 

Edited May 14, 2024 by ESA_maligno

[BIGNEWY]

Please keep on topic here. 

Last warning. 

Thank you 

[Hayrake YE-ZB]

We would be wise to not get this topic closed.

Think about the logic here. The developers must be making some progress, or ED would have pulled the plug on the project and either offered it to someone else, or taken it over themselves. Badgering between players won’t make the Corsair arrive one second quicker, it’s just venting frustration over different personal expectations.

There is nothing that we can do about it.

[billythebassman]

On 5/8/2024 at 10:34 AM, ThorBrasil said:

I believe that the F-4U is already ready, but it should not be launched until the Second World War Marianas map is finalized with the units that will come. Everything must be released at practically the same time. Of course this is what I believe.

May I ask the basis for your belief that the F-4U is ready?  That would be an important statement if it were based on some verifiable evidence...otherwise more wishful thinking.

[Lionel Mandrake]

16 hours ago, Hammer1-1 said:

Yeah. IM the one freaking out. Whos the one crying about not having any updates again? Hey, M3...stop the presses, this guy needs an update! Nothing gets done until this guy gets his update, its written in stone by God upon the mountaintop when nobody was around looking. He deserves nothing less!

Quiet down LM; men are talking.

 

 

"I'm not freaking out" Hammer 1-1. 

Proceeds to immediately freak out with a huge post full of hyperbole.

 

[Hammer1-1]

13 minutes ago, Lionel Mandrake said:

"I'm not freaking out" Hammer 1-1. 

Proceeds to immediately freak out with a huge post full of hyperbole.

 

FYI Im not the topic to be discussing in case you havent been paying attention to the warnings above. Again, just FYI.

[Lionel Mandrake]

On 5/10/2024 at 3:01 AM, BIGNEWY said:

thank you 

You still didn't answer his question.

[freehand]

21 minutes ago, Lionel Mandrake said:

You still didn't answer his question.

What are you talking about what question.

[Hammer1-1]

Im willing to bet his sock puppets question.

[Lionel Mandrake]

On 5/10/2024 at 12:51 AM, Gunfreak said:

@BIGNEWY

A couple of years back ED said there was no coordination between  the Mag3 Corsair and the WW2 Marianas map. 

Is this still the case?

This question.

Don't freak out on me again Hammer 1-1, it's ok to be wrong.

[Lagricole]

Guys, Mag 3 or Leathernek said that there will be no more updates before the module come out so please stop the unnecessary debate on this topic. Just be patient stop trying to make theories, wait for this beautiful plane 

 

[billythebassman]

3 hours ago, Lagricole said:

Just be patient stop trying to make theories, wait for this beautiful plane 

It's just that if Mag 3 has given up or abandoned this project, and they are still telling  us to stop bothering them and just wait, I think we are entitled to know that.  

 

[BIGNEWY]

53 minutes ago, billythebassman said:

It's just that if Mag 3 has given up or abandoned this project, and they are still telling  us to stop bothering them and just wait, I think we are entitled to know that.  

 

if it was abandoned it wouldn't be here on the forum. Again, just need to continue to be patient, when they are ready they will post. 

[Silver_Dragon]

1 hour ago, billythebassman said:

It's just that if Mag 3 has given up or abandoned this project, and they are still telling  us to stop bothering them and just wait, I think we are entitled to know that.  

 

Last Anual Update was on December 2023
https://magnitude-3.com/2023/11/04/2023-annual-update/

Appears on "2024 and Beyond" ED video On January 2024. Last post on Facebook was on February 2024. 

 

 

[Stackup]

21 hours ago, Lionel Mandrake said:

This question.

That would be because Nineline already answered it.  

 

[evensen007]

At this point with all the years of silence stacking up, I really wish a more experienced and established dev was put in stewardship of one of the most legendary and beloved WW2 fighter aircraft of all time. Imagine Heatblur carrying it's torch. Hell, they've released 3 modern jet aircraft recreations in the time M3 has been developing the corsair.