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*Rage* · July 6, 2006

Then please....please....read the manual and learn to IFF. Its great to see new blood in Hyperlobby and on the major servers but seriously, to avoid pissing people off learn how to Identify friend from foe.

Its extremely irritating to be friendly locked at almost point blanc range from behind. Its even more irritating to be shot at continously by a friendly who doesnt understand Buddy spike/Friendly lock/im a friendly/stop locking me/STOP LOCKING ME.

Just now on the 504 server i had one rookie telling another that the way to IFF was to see if the missile fired. If it didnt then the target was a friendy!....Another guy was asking bogeys he'd locked up if they were friend or foe (by typing messages and then asking them to flare). Seriously this sounds funny now but people get irritated online and tempers lost.

Please....its great to get more people online but before you do and have a bad experience from someone shouting abuse at you for teamkilling them, have a flick through the manual and learn to IFF.

I realise mistakes are made, even experienced players have killed buddies (myself included)....so if you do...dont send them a 'woops lol' message..just a quick apology and learn from your mistake.

Oh and one more thing....dont abuse the ecm...i dont even carry ecm pods anymore. Most people online dont use them correctly and get killed for it.

ECM ON is not part of the startup procedure....its only useful in some situations.

Ok...rant off. Have fun online.

4c Hajduk Veljko · July 6, 2006

Then please....please....read the manual...

Second that! It takes time and dedication to learn this beatifull simulator. And the manual is only 250 pages, lots of those are pictures and tabless.

So, read the manual before getting into the cockpit. That's what the real pilots do as well.

GGTharos · July 6, 2006

Just now on the 504 server i had one rookie telling another that the way to IFF was to see if the missile fired. If it didnt then the target was a friendy!

What! This wasn't in the manual! I'll start using this awesome feature right now! ;)

July 6, 2006

Oh and one more thing....dont abuse the ecm Most people online dont use them correctly and get killed for it.
ECM ON is not part of the startup procedure....its only useful in some situations.

READ THIS AGAIN AND AGAIN............ECM ON IS NOT PART OF THE STARTUP PROCEDURE.

Romik · July 7, 2006

I sign under excluding ECM from startup procedure!

Arbitrator · July 7, 2006

calm down body!;)

Its extremely irritating to be friendly locked at almost point blanc range from behind. Its even more irritating to be shot at continously by a friendly who doesnt understand Buddy spike/Friendly lock/im a friendly/stop locking me/STOP LOCKING ME.

i think some people do that either didn't know you were talking to them or they just want to kill you deliberately, there are couple bloody pilots out there, but they will be ban soon as the server spots them out.

Just now on the 504 server i had one rookie telling another that the way to IFF was to see if the missile fired

maybe sometimes people just like to mess around with newbees, just try to give them a hard time after they got their friendly kills.

so those are some of responses for you.:thumbup:

ARM505 · July 7, 2006

Just now on the 504 server i had one rookie telling another that the way to IFF was to see if the missile fired.

Hilarious! I'll bet the RL military will be jumping all over this 'experten tactic' when they hear of it!

GhostRiderLSOV · July 7, 2006

Now that I got FC's replacement disc, I should try flying online again. Don't worry, I check the left MFD on the F-15C to see if the target is friendly or not and what aircraft type. ;)

Kenan · July 7, 2006

I get locked occasionally and some keep the lock for eternity..although I'm ECM off and they can tell I'm a friendly.

Sometimes I get temptaed to u-turn and smack them with an Alamo from close range, just to tech them a lesson.

BTW,

Just now on the 504 server i had one rookie telling another that the way to IFF was to see if the missile fired. If it didnt then the target was a friendy!....

ROTFLMAO :D

dynamocl · July 7, 2006

Its even better when people come online and ask how to start the engines, or "why don't the instruments work on the 25?".

But regarding IFF, some of us fly in ground attack aircraft. We don't have this hi tech new fangled radar thingey. We don't have a nice cue saying friend or not on a MFD (in fact we don't even have MFDs). Sometimes when F-15s or Migs are on both sides and we have a good heat signal. We require a more help to IFF, and I must say, once or twice I have got someguys on TS to drop a flare to check... only becuase we have no electronic or visual clues any other way.

Better to check before firing, instead of fire and hope.

*Rage* · July 7, 2006

Hehe....its not ground pounders that are at fault but rather 15/27/33/29 jocks.

Typically ill be about to engage a bandit 50-60km away when all of a sudden im locked from extremely close range from 6.....and i think whoa...one of those pesky migs must have got past EWR and my radar unnnoticed and ended on my 6....but im not dead yet....diving break turn while popping chaff and flares.....toggle on Schlem....select archer....ahh i see him....gaining angles on him...obviuosly he doesnt dogfight much......ahh dammit its a friendly:mad:

nevermind that the attack profile has been lost and the RWR screaming nonsense at me. :punch:

PaddyTB · July 7, 2006

At the risk of sounding stupid.

Is there anyway of telling if the plane you have locked up is a bad guy

when in the F-15 STT.

I can only tell in TWS mode.

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I'll have someone locked up but I dont know who it is.

1. I change to TWS and lose the lock in the process only to lose any advantage I had and get shot down.

or

2. I take a guess and fire. (This often leads to posts like #1)

I know the IFF in the 15 isnt great in this game, but is there a way

to tell while in STT mode.

Thanks

Shaman · July 7, 2006

Now think about all these nubs that use taxiways on our dedicated servers for takeoff what results that they crash all over the place blocking taxiways for others.

omgamibig · July 7, 2006

I think the problem with online IFF would be far less serious if AWACS wouldn't get shot down so early. Or if there would be one in the first place.

3Sqn_Sven · July 7, 2006

Nice post rage, and seconded. Tired of this happening over and over again.

S77th-GOYA · July 7, 2006

At the risk of sounding stupid.

Is there anyway of telling if the plane you have locked up is a bad guy
when in the F-15 STT.

I can only tell in TWS mode.

You can tell if a locked plane is enemy in TWS mode?

PaddyTB · July 7, 2006

You can tell if a locked plane is enemy in TWS mode?

Ahhh No.

My post does read funny. :huh:

What I mean, is that I need to break the lock to see Who I did have locked.

I normally do this with TWS. Ocassionaly with RWS.

So .... No I cant IFF in either TWS or RWS with a Plane locked.

Sorry for confusion.

Sure would be nice if I could.

Its easy to IFF in the russian planes.

Cheers

PaddyTB

enigma6584 · July 7, 2006

Its even better when people come online and ask how to start the engines, or "why don't the instruments work on the 25?".

But regarding IFF, some of us fly in ground attack aircraft. We don't have this hi tech new fangled radar thingey. We don't have a nice cue saying friend or not on a MFD (in fact we don't even have MFDs). Sometimes when F-15s or Migs are on both sides and we have a good heat signal. We require a more help to IFF, and I must say, once or twice I have got someguys on TS to drop a flare to check... only becuase we have no electronic or visual clues any other way.

Better to check before firing, instead of fire and hope.

Another thing that helps a lot is if you have all the players on one team talking on the teamspeak channel usually provided by the hosting server. I have had it happen to me where I'm ingressing on the target, no friendlies on my radar, my buddies talking to me on teamspeak letting me know where they are etc., fire the missile. Then, some guy on my team, not on same teamspeak channel etc, happens to be in the weeds out in front and starts climbing in altitude toward my target just in time for my "pitbull" 120 to pick him up. He is not a happy camper.:music_whistling:

Stealth_HR · July 7, 2006

Its even better when people come online and ask how to start the engines, or "why don't the instruments work on the 25?".

Perhaps people really should get a stamp on their head saying "RTFM". Maybe that'd get the point across. I mean, how hard is it to remember to Shift-L, Alt-Home, Shift-Home? :pilotfly:

But regarding IFF, some of us fly in ground attack aircraft. We don't have this hi tech new fangled radar thingey. We don't have a nice cue saying friend or not on a MFD (in fact we don't even have MFDs). Sometimes when F-15s or Migs are on both sides and we have a good heat signal. We require a more help to IFF, and I must say, once or twice I have got someguys on TS to drop a flare to check... only becuase we have no electronic or visual clues any other way.

I'm glad someone speaks for us Frog and Hog drivers. Of course we're not built to shoot down jets, but damn, some of us have itchy R-73 fingers. Giving a bit of IFF for us in unconventional ways isn't the worst crime in the world. ;)

cool_t · July 7, 2006

Here we go again!

They need to fix the Eagle and Stop plucking its feathers.

http://www.af.mil/factsheets/factsheet.asp?fsID=101

Ok, IFF, Data link, friendly aircraft beacons, ecm codes, IFF.

Whats the deal with the programers, before Flaming Clifs we had little issues with the Eagle, I STILL CANT GET MY POWER PLANTS TO 107% LIKE THE REAL F-15c. God!!!!!!

No FAST packs, no air to ground mode, Lose lock at 20nm.

I do not hear any of you guys complaning about your Migs and Su's, whats the deal?

:book:

Arbitrator · July 8, 2006

one easy way to solve the problem is just simply put f15 on one side and su's and mig's on the other side. on the f15 side, you can add a su27 to balance the game, or just put f15, su27, a10 vs. su33, mig 29 and su25 series. this makes it much easier.

plus in real life, it's very rear to see f15 up agaisnt another f15.

just do it like the 169 server. problem solved.

Weta43 · July 8, 2006

I might be reading you wrong, but if you're complaining about the guage not going to 110% anymore, it's becasue the AFTER-burner works AFTER the last set of turbines & doesn't effect engine RPM, which is what the gauge shows.

Allochtoon · July 8, 2006

Boohoo all the noobs are faggots and i am leetar Tom Cruise cocky pilot. :D

Seriously, it adds to the realism that you get shot down by friendly's, ED implemented that. I never fly with ECM's aswell, plus that i take-off from taxi-ways because a) i master it b) its useful when vulchers are above.

I think the best way to correct a beginner is get on his six when he constantly locks you up and scare the shit out of him. If he fires you should be able to dodge his missiles plus its good training.

*Rage* · July 8, 2006

Boohoo all the noobs are faggots and i am leetar Tom Cruise cocky pilot. :D

Seriously, it adds to the realism that you get shot down by friendly's, ED implemented that. I never fly with ECM's aswell, plus that i take-off from taxi-ways because a) i master it b) its useful when vulchers are above.

I think the best way to correct a beginner is get on his six when he constantly locks you up and scare the shit out of him. If he fires you should be able to dodge his missiles plus its good training.

Ridiculous.

Allochtoon · July 8, 2006

Ridiculous.

This whine thread is.

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