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Mid month is 10 to 20.

I explain early is 1st to 9th and end 21 to 30th.

U see me?

So I expect 11 to 18th.

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Mid month is 10 to 20.

I explain early is 1st to 9th and end 21 to 30th.

U see me?

So I expect 11 to 18th.

 

We can only hope you're right. :)

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Is landing without flaps the regular procedure? Or did you forget it?

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Is landing without flaps the regular procedure? Or did you forget it?

 

The aircraft has no trailing edge flaps and the leading edge slats are controlled by the FBW system.

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Thanks! :thumbup:

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Mid month is 10 to 20.

I explain early is 1st to 9th and end 21 to 30th.

U see me?

So I expect 11 to 18th.

 

Im expecting a delay, I always expect the worst :D. :doh:

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It still is a Mirage III based delta wing

The Kfir is.. The 2000 is precisely not.

Not trying to make the thread derail but you don't make assumptions on the 2000 behavior based on III derived aircraft. Landing speed are much slower than that, 120 - 140 kts.

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The bird looks really really great and I appreciate progress made for the HUD modelization. Kudos !

 

With all due respect, I second Corsair. One of the major upside of the 2000 over the III and derivative (Kfir...) is that the FBW and engine allow for much lower (= safer) approach & landing speeds. We got this from actual crews on the 2000. Speed can be as low as 120Kt with a clean aircraft, 140Kt with the big RPL541/542 (2000 l) fuel tanks. Target AoA is around 14°.

 

Anyway, well done :)

Growing unusually impatient :) :)

 

Keep up the good work!

++

Az'

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ILS landing with the M-2000C

 

 

The HUD is in Approach mode. The open box and the dotted line representing runway direction appear when you have a localizer signal.

 

The closed box appear when you have both localizer and glideslope. You have to place the FPM inside the box to remain in the path. The small flashing triangles appear when your deviation is excessive.

 

The synthetic runway only appears if the INS system is on and you have both localizer and glideslope. It is placed at the exact position where the runway is, so you can spot it in low visibility conditions.

 

That is awesome! Let us play with it :)

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Thanks a ton for the reply! Understood on the Exocet, keeping my fingers crossed for that Armat!

 

Fingers crossed!

 

ARMAT would make DCS Mirage 2000, a truly unique plane in DCS. :)

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In this video (just as in the one CptSmiley posted a few weeks ago) I noticed a crosswind blowing from the left of the aircraft. (Look at the smoke stacks on approach) yet as far as I could see there was no rudder input and no crabbing on approach. Is the FBW somehow compensating for the crosswind or maybe it was really weak? Was the wind bugged again (like on the mission that CptSmiley flew?)

 

On another note, Im really excited about the low visibility landing abilities of the Mirage2000C. I don't know why,but its making me giddy with excitement. That system is awesome. One question though. What was that "knob" that you kept fiddling with on approach?

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Hi!

 

It still is a Mirage III based delta wing. I don't know the book's stated landing speed nor its AOA for a Kfir.

 

He is a professional pilot and he used to fly delta wings ... .

 

MIII has nothing to do with a M2000. :smilewink:

M2000 is an FBW a/c and has LEF, no commonalities with MIII even if both are Deltas.

 

On M2K, AOA during approach and landing is 14° (12.5° in case of any sort of FLCS, engine or anemo failures)

 

IMHO, you should listen what Corsair has to say, I can tell you that he is obviously more advised about the M2000 than this KFIR pilot. ;)

 

Kind regards.

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Mid month is 10 to 20.

I explain early is 1st to 9th and end 21 to 30th.

U see me?

So I expect 11 to 18th.

I just hope it will come tomorrow or on saturday, i already called in sick because of nevada..:cry:

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just curious, what is that number on center of RWR? Number of treat?

 

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Indeed that is the number of threats the RWR is looking at. Don't get too attached to it. :) It is a developer's debug feature and it will be gone soon, to be replaced by a cross that goes in the center.

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MIII has nothing to do with a M2000. :smilewink:

M2000 is an FBW a/c and has LEF, no commonalities with MIII even if both are Deltas.

 

On M2K, AOA during approach and landing is 14° (12.5° in case of any sort of FLCS, engine or anemo failures)

 

IMHO, you should listen what Corsair has to say, I can tell you that he is obviously more advised about the M2000 than this KFIR pilot. ;)

 

+1

 

Mirage III: http://bdd.deltareflex.com/photos/highdef/1/1902.jpg

Mirage III: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/37/Swiss_Air_Force_Dassault_Mirage_III_S_high_side_view.jpg

 

M2000: http://airheadsfly.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/mirage2000f5adlanancy1404141880dennisspronk.jpg

M2000: http://www.avion-de-combat.com/Avion-de-combat/Dassault-Breguet_Mirage_2000/Mirage2000/Mirage2000-07.jpg

 

Mirage III: http://www.airvectors.net/avmir3_1_01.jpg

M2000: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4c/Mirage.2000d.3-im.arp.jpg

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So NWS is switched on/off automatically based on speed? Is it possible to switch it manually?

 

The NWS is manually switched on/off. But if it is on, the system won't engage until you are in a safe speed, i.e. less than 40 KGS.

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If the landing speed is confirmed to be truly between 120 and 140 knots, is it possible to get it fixed for the beta ? I'm sure you guys are extremely talented and wouldn't have an issue with that :)

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In this video (just as in the one CptSmiley posted a few weeks ago) I noticed a crosswind blowing from the left of the aircraft. (Look at the smoke stacks on approach) yet as far as I could see there was no rudder input and no crabbing on approach. Is the FBW somehow compensating for the crosswind or maybe it was really weak? Was the wind bugged again (like on the mission that CptSmiley flew?)

 

On another note, Im really excited about the low visibility landing abilities of the Mirage2000C. I don't know why,but its making me giddy with excitement. That system is awesome. One question though. What was that "knob" that you kept fiddling with on approach?

 

That knob on the HUD? That is the minimum altitude warning selector. It is available when you are using the radalt and with it you select the absolue minimum AGL altitude you want to fly. In approach mode it also works as the Decision Height selector. I was testing a HUD feature with it. In approach mode, when the AGL altitude is below the Decision Height, the radalt readout is positioned below the FPM.

"Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning."

"The three most dangerous things in the world are a programmer with a soldering iron, a hardware type with a program patch and a user with an idea."

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Hi!

 

 

 

MIII has nothing to do with a M2000. :smilewink:

M2000 is an FBW a/c and has LEF, no commonalities with MIII even if both are Deltas.

 

On M2K, AOA during approach and landing is 14° (12.5° in case of any sort of FLCS, engine or anemo failures)

 

IMHO, you should listen what Corsair has to say, I can tell you that he is obviously more advised about the M2000 than this KFIR pilot. ;)

 

Kind regards.

 

I accept the correction and acknowledge that I was wrong and will close the matter on this issue.

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If the landing speed is confirmed to be truly between 120 and 140 knots, is it possible to get it fixed for the beta ? I'm sure you guys are extremely talented and wouldn't have an issue with that :)

 

The aircraft will have the landing speeds the real one has. And those are based on landing weight. The heavier you are the faster it is, up to a limit.

"Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning."

"The three most dangerous things in the world are a programmer with a soldering iron, a hardware type with a program patch and a user with an idea."

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Indeed that is the number of threats the RWR is looking at. Don't get too attached to it. :) It is a developer's debug feature and it will be gone soon, to be replaced by a cross that goes in the center.

Oh:doh: just I thought it was a feature

anyway Thanks for clarification:thumbup:

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