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[VTJS17_Fire]

Is that the presentation of the bullseye itself or the TDC coordinates dependent to the bullseye? So, do the numbers change, if I slew the TDC?

 

Thanks in advance. :)

[ZHeN]

Today I started working with the INS. 1st thing that I have crossed out: How to select the bullseye.

 

In this image, waypoint 2 is the bullseye. Below you have distance and bearing to it.

 

In this image, 00 indicates that no bullseye has been selected. In that case you have TDC range and bearing.

 

Bullseye is selected by clicking on the N button in the VTB.

holy crap, that's gonna be hard to understand for a dude who never played A-10C Warthog mod ...

I googled this bullseye waypoint - all links lead to this forum of A-10C players ...

[VTJS17_Fire]

holy crap, that's gonna be hard to understand for a dude who never played A-10C Warthog mod ...

I googled this bullseye waypoint - all links lead to this forum of A-10C players ...

Normally you can set any waypoint or simple coordinates to the bullseye in your navigation computer (here INS, in the A-10C called CDU/ EGI).

 

The bullseye is a virtual checkpoint and is used as reference for all aircraft assets in a mission. With the bullseye, you can call out targets (air and land based) on a basing point, which is the same for all. That's superior to the so called BRAA call, because that's only accurate when you're in the same flight.

 

Simple example: You can report target at bullseye 270/40. That means, that the target is 40 miles away and with the radial 270 from the bullseye (or 270° from the bullseye). If you get also the tracking (heading of the contact) and look at your own heading, you can easy calculate how to intercept/ find these contact.

 

 

By looking at the screens from Zeus, the range and bearing are inverted. Is that correct? :huh:

 

 

Edit: I did a tutorial about that topic, some time ago. Unfortunately it's in German. :music_whistling:

Edited June 9, 2016 by VTJG17_Fire
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[Zeus67]

By looking at the screens from Zeus, the range and bearing are inverted. Is that correct? :huh:

 

I used this photo, an many others like it. In the M-2000C VTB the order is RANGE/BEARING.

[Darkbrotherhood7]

Nice, Zeus. Can't wait to see that :)

[YoYo]

Good work. INS + campaign, finally !

[VTJS17_Fire]

I used this photo, an many others like it. In the M-2000C VTB the order is RANGE/BEARING.

Ok, thanks. :)

[Zeus67]

This is the current Special Options menu for the M-2000C.

 

[RAZBAM_ELMO]

Sweet. How's the INS coming along? When the patch for the M2K comes can we get a full patch list of stuff that made it through

 

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[Tarres]

Great news!

 

I think that the "INS and Drift" options suit better in the M2000C Special tab of the Mission Editor. Could it be possible?

[Frederf]

Does such thing can happen in DCS ?

That was not my question.

[TomCatMucDe]

Why is the drift an option at all?

[Flagrum]

Great news!

 

I think that the "INS and Drift" options suit better in the M2000C Special tab of the Mission Editor. Could it be possible?

 

Why is the drift an option at all?

I think, it is good as it is right now (or will be with the next update). It is a difficulty setting and as such it is better suited for the Options/Special/M2KC tab than as a per-mission setting. (either it drifts or it drifts not. But not "today it drifts, next flight it doesnt")

 

And as difficulty setting, it is nothing wrong to have a way to disable it (default should be "on", though, realism ftw!).

[QuiGon]

I think, it is good as it is right now (or will be with the next update). It is a difficulty setting and as such it is better suited for the Options/Special/M2KC tab than as a per-mission setting. (either it drifts or it drifts not. But not "today it drifts, next flight it doesnt")

 

And as difficulty setting, it is nothing wrong to have a way to disable it (default should be "on", though, realism ftw!).

 

Difficulty settings should be forceable by the server in MP IMHO. So I'm not really happy with the option to disable alignment/drift in the special options. To be honest, I don't know why this is an option at all? It's not really a difficulty setting. It is part of the aircraft and nothing you could just "turn off". So players who don't care about realism would have an unfair advantage in MP, not having to deal with drift or waiting for alignment :(

 

I wonder what would happen if ED decides to give players the option to disable alignment for the A-10C? Or why not give players the option to disable warm-up times for the missiles too? I don't see why this is any different.

 

 

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Quick question: How will INS update to reset drift be handled in DCS?

Edited June 10, 2016 by QuiGon

[Pikey]

Perhaps its because the drift isn't able to be modelled, it isnt consistent and therefore can hit you with unreliable frequency a bit like how random failures are either on or off, because in reality a random failure is a very low chance but to make it apparent they are forced faster? I don't know how to explain that better, but I can understand a certain point of view if drift isn't consistent and I also undertand how it can sound silly to turn an aspect of realism off

[VTJS17_Fire]

IMO the server should force the INS drift option.

[Cantiga]

IMO the server should force the INS drift option.

And INS alignment option too.

[VTJS17_Fire]

Yep, forgot that. The INS alignment should absolutly be forced by the server. :thumbup:

[QuiGon]

Perhaps its because the drift isn't able to be modelled, it isnt consistent and therefore can hit you with unreliable frequency a bit like how random failures are either on or off, because in reality a random failure is a very low chance but to make it apparent they are forced faster? I don't know how to explain that better, but I can understand a certain point of view if drift isn't consistent and I also undertand how it can sound silly to turn an aspect of realism off

 

Why should it not be possible to model it consistent? It's simple math. :huh:

[Zaz0]

One question about bullseye display at VTB, is relative to the airplane itself or the TDC/pointer?

[jojo]

One question about bullseye display at VTB, is relative to the airplane itself or the TDC/pointer?

 

It's the TDC coordinates from the BE.

 

If you want your position from the BE select it as waypoint for navigation

[jojo]

Difficulty settings should be forceable by the server in MP IMHO. So I'm not really happy with the option to disable alignment/drift in the special options. To be honest, I don't know why this is an option at all? It's not really a difficulty setting. It is part of the aircraft and nothing you could just "turn off". So players who don't care about realism would have an unfair advantage in MP, not having to deal with drift or waiting for alignment :(

 

I wonder what would happen if ED decides to give players the option to disable alignment for the A-10C? Or why not give players the option to disable warm-up times for the missiles too? I don't see why this is any different.

 

 

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Quick question: How will INS update to reset drift be handled in DCS?

 

They already do have advantages by flying FC3 fighters :music_whistling:

INS drift or missile's warm up is surely not specific to M-2000. But currently it would be the only one to model it.

[Zeus67]

Why is the drift an option at all?

 

Because slowly but steadily the aircraft is becoming a handful to operate. Many of you like it that way, but there are people who don't. For them it becomes a job and not fun. I want to give them options to configure aircraft operation to something that suits them.

 

You want to make Gyro Drift enforceable by the Mission Editor. I disagree with that, I feel that there is enough work in the cockpit for many people. But, I am not dismissing your comments.

 

Stuff like missile delay and preparation times are enforced because those are things that the aircraft automatically does. They do not require pilot input. But gyro drift do require pilot input and in the case of INS alignment, a long time sitting in the tarmac waiting for it to end.

 

This is not balance, because these two option in no way affect how the aircraft handles or how its weapons operate. But they are something that many people will appreciate. You still have plenty of switches to click around. :)

[jaguara5]

Will we have an update today?

[ZHeN]

so the drift will still be present even after I wait enough for full INS alignment ?